Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Broberg, Holloway and Ceci are Gone, Do We Add Another D Before Camp?

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Bellemare is 39. Johnson is 34. How can Johnson be done but not Bellemare?

Johnson had 17G last year but did probably get more playing time with Chicago

Because Bellemare is just a 4th line center/13 or 14th forward. Johnson, to be effective, is still more of a top-9 guy.

Oilers don't have a need or space for him.

 

[McDoused]

What about Tyler Johnson as a 4C?

 

[Mr Positive]

The Flames aren't trading him to Edmonton, Conroy already showed how vindictive he is by trading Tanev elsewhere when apparently the Oilers made a better offer. He'd be the perfect add though, but it's not happening.
They have Little Brother Syndrome. It's quite sad actually.

We didn't make the better offer. Ours included them taking Ceci, who the Flames didn't want. So I'm not willing to buy into that little brother explanation just yet. They've traded with us before as well, and other rivals.

At the very least we could get to that point and if Andersson is a no go, just try with someone else.

 

[Duke74]

we probably don’t need draisaitl.

You'd like that

 

[Fourier]

Would Vegas move Theodore rather than potentially losing him for nothing if it looks like they are going to miss or may not have the chops to go far in next year's playoffs. He is lefty but is more comfortable playing on the right side.

 

[The Nuge]

We didn't make the better offer. Ours included them taking Ceci, who the Flames didn't want. So I'm not willing to buy into that little brother explanation just yet. They've traded with us before as well, and other rivals.

At the very least we could get to that point and if Andersson is a no go, just try with someone else.

Calgary has literally never made a trade that resulted in us getting better. It’s always been us selling to them. The closest was the Lucic/Neal swap.

 

[K1984]

Calgary has literally never made a trade that resulted in us getting better. It’s always been us selling to them. The closest was the Lucic/Neal swap.

This one is different too in the sense that it could be the final piece to put us over the top to win the Cup.

Personally, I would be f***ing livid if we handed the Flames the final piece to a championship team, even if the return was technically the best. The 2nd best offer probably isn't that much worse to make it worth it for your fans to basically be tortured.

 

[Canovin]

Would Vegas move Theodore rather than potentially losing him for nothing if it looks like they are going to miss or may not have the chops to go far in next year's playoffs. He is lefty but is more comfortable playing on the right side.

Theodore would be a great addition as he and Nurse have played together at the WJC. The problem would be he most likely be a rental as it would be hard to find the cap to extend him.

 

[McDNicks17]

Calgary has literally never made a trade that resulted in us getting better. It’s always been us selling to them. The closest was the Lucic/Neal swap.

This is Aaron Johnson erasure.

 

[Mr Positive]

Calgary has literally never made a trade that resulted in us getting better. It’s always been us selling to them. The closest was the Lucic/Neal swap.

Did the Flames have a trade like that with the Canucks before the Lindholm trade? The Flames at times has been a bigger rival with the Canucks than with us. Even culturally, Calgary has a lot of connections with Vancouver as well. Imo Conroy is ready to make trades coldly. The fact that the Flames are so bad basically kills any sense of rivalry

I bet if we have the best offer we could get Andersson.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828149526114545773

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

I'll believe it when I see it

 

[Soundwave]

What about Tyler Johnson as a 4C?

This is kind of an interesting one because I think there's a fair chance that Johnson is currently better than Derek Ryan, but he did get caved pretty hard in Chicago defensively. I might sign him if he's willing to sign for cheap.

 

[tiger_80]

I don't know how he does it but if Bowman moves nurse he deserves a statue next to Wayne.

Nurse needs to be paired with Dr.Eakins.

 

[joestevens29]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828149526114545773

I mean there might be something to it, but him being back in Edmonton really seems normal.

Not sure when training camp actually starts this year, but pre-season is less than a month away.

 

[Mr Positive]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828149526114545773

Is Bouchard at 12 really a possibility? I could see 9.5 just to put him a notch over Nurse

 

[nexttothemoon]

I think training camp starts on the 15th of Sept every season doesn't it (not including the covid years of course).

I assume they start with physicals on the 15th and then actual training camp on ice starts the next day.


Of course rookies/prospects start a few days earlier and they get folded into main camp after the 15th as well.

 

[K1984]

Is Bouchard at 12 really a possibility? I could see 9.5 just to put him a notch over Nurse

If I were Bouchard's agent I'm probably starting the ask at $12AAV over an 8 year deal. Cap is going to escalate massively and I think agents are much, much more wise to that now vs. 15 years ago when players signing long term deals for manageable AAVs was the norm (to their detriment).

 

[Oilslick941611]

I don't think you understand how to read buyouts in relation to their impact on the salary cap.

The bigger question is what upgrade was there to make up for a nurse buyout? He chews 30 minutes a game.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

Is Bouchard at 12 really a possibility? I could see 9.5 just to put him a notch over Nurse

I agree
I thought I was being over the top suggesting that the 4 of them would come in at 50M and that was with Bouchard at 10M
either way, I still think we would be ok

 

[McTonyBrar]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828149526114545773

We know from past signings etc these guys aren’t fully reliable but let’s see

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828149526114545773

We know from past signings etc these guys aren’t fully reliable but let’s see

Im not even sure how its an "update"

"a good number for the contract is this....
the big 3 talked to all the other players who already signed about taking less money
but
it could be really big numbers too"

 

[JeffSkinner53]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1828149526114545773

Twitter says Leon has already mentally left

 

[Fourier]

If I were Bouchard's agent I'm probably starting the ask at $12AAV over an 8 year deal. Cap is going to escalate massively and I think agents are much, much more wise to that now vs. 15 years ago when players signing long term deals for manageable AAVs was the norm (to their detriment).

That makes him the highest paid defenseman in the league. I don't see he has earned that sort of money even with the pending cap increase. Frankly he sits in a group with guys like Makar, Hughes, Heiskanen, Fox and Dahlin. Right now he is probably at the bottom of that group in terms of what he has done so far. For this reason I'd rather see a shorter term deal at a lesser cap hit. 4 years at $8.5M would be a deal that would set him up for a really big payday when the cap space was there to support it.

Frankly, I still think $47M for the four should be doable.

 

[tinfish]

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