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McShogun99

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True their defensive system is exceptional ... but at the same time why weren't Broissoit and Thompson anywhere near as good (or frankly Lehner too).

Something in Hill's mind seems to have clicked in from the playoffs last year, either that or he should win Best Actor at the Oscars this year for pretending to be the best goalie on earth now for like 8 months.

It's not even a "this guy just does that to Edmonton" thing, he has shut out Vancouver this year, shut out Colorado, and last year completely brought Dallas and Florida's offense to their knees after shutting our offense down.

I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse, but it's not just us.
Hill should have won the Smythe. Vegas loses to Edmonton if Broissoit doesn't get injured.
 

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Teams circling Booner Jenner now
Guentzel have stopped talks in contract with Pittsburgh

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Yes f***ing please to Tanev. Please Kenny.

Also follow up on that tweet:
 

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If you think they're invincible why not just say that? It would be much easier and less tedious than what you're doing.

Aside from that, with all due respect to Adin Hill, and he is earning a ton right now, you are very literally looking at a 34 game sample size and talking him into mythical proportions.

This isn't me comparing the two either. But over just the last 18 games, which is all Hill has played so far this year, Skinner has posted a .936/1.66 compared to Hill's .938/1.88

Again, Hill has been a monster over the last 34 games he's played, but there was 85 games prior to that where he wasn't playing at a Vezina caliber. I think you're absolutely overstating things at this point in time. You're also forgetting to mention that Vegas had a slide earlier this year too.

After a torrid 11-2 start in October, they went 6-8 in November, 7-6 in December and 7-6 in January. They are a very good team, but they are not this invincible machine you're trying to make them out to be.
Amen brother. I felt like why would they even want to play a series against VGK after reading all the other posts.
 

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Anything from Boob?

It's not Stauffer today. Its Reid Wilkins.
Friedman's on right now and mentions Calgary trying to squeeze out Tanev for a 1st rounder. Mentions players like Henrique, Jenner, MAF, Dowd, and etc being options of tradable players for the league.

Not much different from what we've been hearing or seeing.

I think Friedman said his 32 thoughts will be posted tonight or tomorrow, so we'll see if there's anything else.
 

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Tanev should be worth a 1st, no?

Or has he lost a step? I haven't watched him closely lately
 

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It's not Stauffer today. Its Reid Wilkins.
Friedman's on right now and mentions Calgary trying to squeeze out Tanev for a 1st rounder. Mentions players like Henrique, Jenner, MAF, Dowd, and etc being options of tradable players for the league.

Not much different from what we've been hearing or seeing.

I think Friedman said his 32 thoughts will be posted tonight or tomorrow, so we'll see if there's anything else.
Reid is a complete idiot. He didn’t even ask him anything oiler related
 

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Reid is a complete idiot. He didn’t even ask him anything oiler related

I tuned in just for the Friedman segment only haha. I think Reid did mention for the fans based in Alberta in regards to players, but other than that, the segment wasn't anything newsworthy. I think it would've been better if ol Stauffer was able to host.
 

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I would trade a first for Tanev

It would have happened then.

Seravalli mentioned in the walker video that he did his research and listed all the dmen that went for a 1st. They were all better than Walker. Hronek had term, McCabe had term, etc.

Yaremchuck asked about Tanev. He said he doesn't think Tanev is as good as any of them either. Yaremchuk countered with Gavrkov and he pointed out that Tanev is a lot older he said Calgary is asking for a 2nd. My guess is that they already have a 2nd but probably settle for a high 2nd a good prospect. That is unless someone doesn't go crazy and give them a 1st.

I could really see Ceci/Kulak for a 2nd given that Calgary wants to seem to stay competitive and maybe flip guys.
 
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It would have happened then.

Seravalli mentioned in the walker that he did his research and listed all the dmen that went for a 1st. They were all better than Walker. Hronek had term, McCabe had term, etc.

Yaremchuck asked about Tanev. He said he doesn't think Tanev is as good as any of them either. Yaremchuk countered with Gavrkov and he pointed out that Tanev is a lot older he said Calgary is asking for a 2nd. My guess is that they already have a 2nd but probably settle for a high 2nd a good prospect. That is if someone doesn't go crazy and give them a 1st.

I could really see Ceci/Kulak for a 2nd given that Calgary wants to seem to stay competitive and maybe flip guys.
I’m guessing they’re holding out thinking someone will cave and give up a 1st for Tanev based on his resume as one of the premier defensive defenders over the last few years.

I think a trade to Edmonton is unlikely as all things equal they’d likely rather trade him to anyone but Edmonton barring an over pay.
 

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8. Philadelphia can extend Travis Konecny on July 1, but the Flyers are trying to get the legwork done sooner. You’re going to see a real attempt at this. The prediction is Nick Seeler stays, and Jamie Drysdale’s arrival puts Sean Walker on the move (Edmonton and Tampa Bay are among interested parties). Rasmus Ristolainen’s stock is up, but the contract is tricky.

15. Edmonton’s 16-game winning streak ended in an entertaining game, a 3-1 loss to Vegas — a showcase in front of a frenzied Golden Knights crowd and a Super Bowl-fueled media throng. If the Four Nations Faceoff started tomorrow, Adin Hill is Canada’s starter (although Penguins fans feel Tristan Jarry is not getting enough respect). Hill stoned the Oilers. Oilers GM Ken Holland did not want to discuss moves while things were going so well for his team, like it was bad karma. But he will use the rest of this month, as Edmonton’s schedule toughens, to determine where he’s going to add. How Dylan Holloway plays impacts the Oilers’ decisions.

20. When it comes to goalies, Marc-Andre Fleury will have the biggest impact. He’s earned the right to call his shot; nothing happens without his approval. Fleury initially was unhappy to move from Vegas to Chicago, and needed convincing to go to Minnesota. But the guy eats, breathes and loves hockey, so he adapts upon arrival. This screams Carolina, Colorado or Edmonton, all playoff-bound. But, in some of those situations, he wouldn’t be the starter, so that factors in. Again, it’s his call, and deservedly so.
 

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I’m guessing they’re holding out thinking someone will cave and give up a 1st for Tanev based on his resume as one of the premier defensive defenders over the last few years.

I think a trade to Edmonton is unlikely as all things equal they’d likely rather trade him to anyone but Edmonton barring an over pay.

It was kind of funny because Yaremchuck asked about the Oilers having to overpay and Seravlli shot it down. He's like, Vancouver and Calgary just made a trade. The only difference is that they we are in the same province and hate each other. So what? That shouldn't stop you from getting the best deal possible.
 
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It was kind of funny because Yaremchuck asked about the Oilers having to overpay and Seravlli shot it down. He's like, Vancouver and Calgary just made a trade. The only difference is that they we are in the same province and hate each other. So what? That shouldn't stop you from getting the best deal possible.

Yaremchuck is also the same dude who thinks Tanev isn't an upgrade on Ceci lol.
Some of the Oilersnation people make me :facepalm:


 

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When looking at salaries and where the players are slotted right now in our lineup.... these are the players I would consider moving:

1) Foegele - I know he is having an awesome season but other than for a few months this season, he's never been a true top 6 player and I'm not sure I can trust his production continuing into the playoffs. We need someone there who has better finish. And with the addition of Corey Perry at league minimum in the bottom6 now, I think this makes Foegele expendable. His cap hit is $2.75 million which is not great if you're slotted in the bottom lines.

2) Ceci - If you want to contend for a cup, you need two pairings that you can trust out there and although Ceci is a decent dman, he is not a true top4 guy on a Stanley cup team. You have to upgrade this position with someone more dependable. In order to fit someone like Tanev, Ceci is the guy you have to deal. Moving his salary of $3.25 million can also help free up some salary.

3) Kulak - I know he and Vinny have formed a very good 3rd pairing for the Oilers lately, but his caphit of $2.75 million is quite alot for a 3rd pairing dman. If you really need to shed salary to bring in certain players, I would seriously consider moving out Kulak and replacing him with Broberg, who's been excellent down in the Farm and makes minimum league salary. With Vinny's strong play this year, I think he and Broberg could make a decent 3rd pairing.

The caphit effect of moving those 3 players and bringing up Broberg is a savings of $8 million dollars that you can use towards a top4 dman and top6 Rw'er. And if you are really big game hunting, like for a player like Konecny, then you can add other assets in the deal for the other team to retain some salary.
 
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McTonyBrar

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Tanev would be great but I still think we need a pure finisher in the top six more. I think if we had one last night, we would’ve won the game. The 2nd line isn’t working and Foegele isn’t a top six winger. If Guentzel, Konecny, Eberle etc were there, we maybe could’ve scored more
 
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mkatcherin00

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I think he is a tad overrated and not worth a 1st. I would like Tanev , but we need a forward too. I don't see CGY trading with us. Those pricks are probably trying hard to work out something with Fraudcouver
 
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