Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: “I’d buy that for a dollar!!!” Edition

[Behind Enemy Lines]

The retention was $400K for three years and it seems that Nashville was at least looking to move on from Ekholm at the time. St. Louis might have to retain more for much longer and today. That said the real concern is that it is hard to imagine that Parayko is a guy they want to move on from right now. They may see this differently in the future. But it would probably take time to convince them.

There are a lot of similarities between Nashville's situation last year and St. Louis. Both are teams in transition with top weighted cap, expensive aging players, the Predators actually spread it better between its top 3 D and Duchene/Johannsen at forward. The Blues is basically all at defense. With Parayko, he's their best sell asset who enables hard cash savings of $30 million+ including $16 million the next two seasons. If the Blues are willing to eat $3,150,000 for half of Buchnevich's next year contract, it's not unreasonable to think $1,000,000 retained for $6,000,000 over the life of Parayko's deal would be out of reach.

Parayko's value, similar to Karlsson last year, might be at peak market value. It's not unreasonable to think the Blues view a prospective chance to reset their cap situation and augment their personnel reset by moving one of their 5 trade protected age 30+ defensemen. They tried with Krug who vetoed.

Hard to do. Absolutely. Improbable. Yes. But there is a window and major financial and cap considerations which gives this a reasonable business case scenario.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Then, again, it's easier to lay down a quit.

I don't suppose they will, but $1M on an increasing cap is a replacement level player, they might be convinced for the right price.

Teams literally have 2 retention spots, locking that up for 6 years, if they even say yes will be multiple 1sts.
Okay say the deal for Parayko was Ceci, Foegele, Broberg, 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 1st and a 2nd for 25% retention. Do you do it?

 

[mkatcherin00]

I have a Firestick and u can watch these classics 24/7. Cheers was unreal. Monkey was classic. The XMAS dinner was a good one as well. We were finally gonna get to see Vera and she got the pie in the face

I have watched Cheers twice. A show I will just put on in the background like Seinfeld while I work.

I just torrent them all. I have so many old shows on my PC it's not even funny. Even did a Perfect strangers rewatch lol

 

[Seachd]

Friedman says “Edmonton isn’t sure they can win this race”, regarding a Guentzel trade. Says Carolina is the team to watch.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Blues are willing to retain 50% on Buchnevich. He’d be down to 2.9…. After Gagner goes through waivers, we had 3.033 in cap space

 

[CycloneSweep]

Man you guys are setting yourself up for massive dissapointment expecting some of these deals.
Ya'll gonna be super depressed come Friday.
I am not even being negative on the team, I think we will have a fine deadline. But some of your expectations are absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Man you guys are setting yourself up for massive dissapointment expecting some of these deals.
Ya'll gonna be super depressed come Friday.
I am not even being negative on the team, I think we will have a fine deadline. But some of your expectations are absolutely ridiculous.

Then let us all be disappointed to the point of despair after the deadline lapses.

Right now nothing is certain, eventually you can tell us "I told you so"

 

[oil Leaks]

Blues are willing to retain 50% on Buchnevich. He’d be down to 2.9…. After Gagner goes through waivers, we had 3.033 in cap space

Get a third team at 25% and Buchnevich will be down to 2.175. Can Holland make it happen, we shall see

 

[CycloneSweep]

Then let us all be disappointed to the point of despair after the deadline lapses.

Right now nothing is certain, eventually you can tell us "I told you so"

Crosby 50% for Holloway, 2nd.
Lets go!

 

[WaitingForUser]

Friedman says “Edmonton isn’t sure they can win this race”, regarding a Guentzel trade. Says Carolina is the team to watch.

Friedman honestly doesn’t know much outside the Leafs from what I can tell.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Get a third team at 25% and Buchnevich will be down to 2.175

It'll only cost Holloway, and 2nds, easy peasy.

 

[FlameChampion]

Get a third team at 25% and Buchnevich will be down to 2.175. Can Holland make it happen, we shall see

It’s very expensive when he has another year

 

[Fourier]

There are a lot of similarities between Nashville's situation last year and St. Louis. Both are teams in transition with top weighted cap, expensive aging players, the Predators actually spread it better between its top 3 D and Duchene/Johannsen at forward. The Blues is basically all at defense. With Parayko, he's their best sell asset who enables hard cash savings of $30 million+ including $16 million the next two seasons. If the Blues are willing to eat $3,150,000 for half of Buchnevich's next year contract, it's not unreasonable to think $1,000,000 retained for $6,000,000 over the life of Parayko's deal would be out of reach.

Parayko's value, similar to Karlsson last year, might be at peak market value. It's not unreasonable to think the Blues view a prospective chance to reset their cap situation and augment their personnel reset by moving one of their 5 trade protected age 30+ defensemen. They tried with Krug who vetoed.

Hard to do. Absolutely. Improbable. Yes. But there is a window and major financial and cap considerations which gives this a reasonable business case scenario.

I don't disagree with anything you say. I just don't think it is a deal that gets done by Friday. That said one thing to remember is that teams are only allowed 3 retention slots. Parayko would tie one up for 6 years. They have a couple of other guys they may want to move on from in the next few years. If during that time they decide to retool that slot does have some additional value to them.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Crosby 50% for Holloway, 2nd.
Lets go!

Again, I don't care that you're spiraling, you can be willfully obtuse on your our time.

 

[WaitingForUser]

Teams literally have 2 retention spots, locking that up for 6 years, if they even say yes will be multiple 1sts.
Okay say the deal for Parayko was Ceci, Foegele, Broberg, 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 1st and a 2nd for 25% retention. Do you do it?

Honestly I think I would still do that deal. After seeing the impact Ekholm had on the overall make up of the team adding a RS D man of the same Ilk should be a no brainer even at that cost IMO

 

[K1984]

Friedman says “Edmonton isn’t sure they can win this race”, regarding a Guentzel trade. Says Carolina is the team to watch.

Carolina is an ideal landing spot for any player of quality that we lose out on. Not relevant to us, and I don't think they'll be any sort of real playoff threat anyways.

 

[FlameChampion]

Friedman says “Edmonton isn’t sure they can win this race”, regarding a Guentzel trade. Says Carolina is the team to watch.

Not sure this is a surprise. Too much interest in him.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Again, I don't care that you're spiraling, you can be willfully obtuse on your our time.

You can keep saying something untrue, doesn't make it true.

 

[LTIR]

Late to the party but man Tarasenko went for practically nothing! Darn that he had his family in FLA

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Get a third team at 25% and Buchnevich will be down to 2.175. Can Holland make it happen, we shall see

A third team won't happen

 

[bucks_oil]

Well they did supposedly offer a first for Tanev

I am guessing they just don’t see a lot of substantial upgrades on Ceci out there

Why not Chychrun? My Ottawa buddy tells me he's been playing RD most of the year. Cap hit is pretty solid for this year and next as well. The only issue is when he comes up for renewal (same as when Drai and Bouchard kick in).

 

[Oilhawks]

Carolina is an ideal landing spot for any player of quality that we lose out on. Not relevant to us, and I don't think they'll be any sort of real playoff threat anyways.

100% agreed and my thoughts

Guentzel isn't enough talent to take them far in the playoffs, IMO. They're a worse version of the Cup-winning Blues, year in and year out

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Friedman says “Edmonton isn’t sure they can win this race”, regarding a Guentzel trade. Says Carolina is the team to watch.

It's a lot of assets for a pure rental

no thanks

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Friedman honestly doesn’t know much outside the Leafs from what I can tell.

I do not agree with this statement

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

At the very least this team shouldn't be owning their first round pick by the time the TDL ends.