Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: “I’d buy that for a dollar!!!” Edition

[ManOfSteelI]

If we don't win a cup, this is the reason. League-worst drafting after picking McD. Started with Reinhart and just snowballed. Bouch was a good pick, though, striking out on every fwd pick since is just insane.

I think it goes beyond that. Our development is equally awful. In an alternate timeline, I can absolutely see guys like Holloway and broberg excelling elsewhere already. I can also see Stankoven getting the Holloway treatment here.

It's not one or the other, it's both.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

 

[KlefDown]

Lol, oh no Conference Finals at best?

if you're happy with that at year 9 of mcdrai and their contract extensions looming then more power to you

 

[Vagabond]

Any smoke anywhere involving the Oil or is it dying off? I'm thinking if they do anything else, it'll be tomorrow with double retention and a roster player.

 

[McDNicks17]

If we don't win a cup, this is the reason. League-worst drafting after picking McD. Started with Reinhart and just snowballed. Bouch was a good pick, though, striking out on every fwd pick since is just insane.

It still boggles my mind that almost all their draft success has come from the OHL and it's like they actively try to avoid the league most of them time.

Puljujarvi -> Tkachuk
Broberg -> Harley
Holloway -> Foerster
Bourgault -> Johnston

 

[Canovin]

If Avs or Vegas adds another big piece, you gotta think Holland will try and match that too?

 

[mkatcherin00]

Any smoke anywhere involving the Oil or is it dying off? I'm thinking if they do anything else, it'll be tomorrow with double retention and a roster player.

That Nashville twitter guy sounded like it four hours ago

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

again why would Nashville trade Carrier? Are they willing to downgrade to Ceci if they get a few of our forwards?

The Preds are not going to sign him and have the AHL kid ready.

I think he gets traded. Here? Idk tho???

 

[joestevens29]

I think it goes beyond that. Our development is equally awful. In an alternate timeline, I can absolutely see guys like Holloway and broberg excelling elsewhere already. I can also see Stankoven getting the Holloway treatment here.

It's not one or the other, it's both.

I don't know. I look at Desharnais and I look at Broberg.

One was so happy to get a NHL contract that he spent the time to work his butt off. Before Broberg was sent down there was all this talk about how Vinny stays late after practice to work with the coaches.

Where was Broberg? Not there. You'd think if you see someone who is also deemed a prospect even though older working late with coaches that you'd do the same.

At some point it's not always the organizations fault. Seems these higher picks just expect to be given time no matter what, but that doesn't happen on contenders. You need to either show up when given a chance or spend the time it takes to get better.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[Seachd]

dont mean to sound like a debbie downer but oilers aren't making it past the 3rd round at the absolute best

vegas, canucks, dallas? yeah nuh uh

Apparently Vegas, Vancouver and Dallas will all be in the Cup final.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I mentioned this on twitter, I wonder if he got things "out there" and it's up to the other parties to make calls on those things.

 

[MessierThanThou]

The Knights just signed Hanifin and look to be making another move. You must be pretty pumped.

See that bolded line below? That's you.

I used to be mutuals with that person. She's one of those "gO cHEER fOr AnOTHeR tEAM iF YOu'Re sO NEgATIVe" and that was during the decade of darkness time. Still hasn't changed her tune since.

 

[Shanahanigans]

If we don't win a cup, this is the reason. League-worst drafting after picking McD. Started with Reinhart and just snowballed. Bouch was a good pick, though, striking out on every fwd pick since is just insane.

This for sure, but also deployment. None of Broberg, Holloway or Lavoie have been given real opportunities by this team. Stankoven was recalled from the AHL and promptly put in the top 6, and he's got 5 goals and 9 points in 8 games. Lavoie got what, 6 minutes of the 4th line with Ryan and Brown? Holloway gets a shift with Mcdrai here and there but is otherwise stapled to the 4th line. We don't draft well, and when we find guys, we don't give them an actual shot.

 

[Arpeggio]

Makes me think one more move is in the cards.

 

[GOilers88]

He may not be of stable mind, and one could argue against a lot of what he's done, but at least he's consistently acquired guys at the deadline to help the team, whether they've all worked or not.

Could have been worse, they could have stepped back to the Tambelli do nothing phase.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Waiting for Eberle contract talks to break off so Holland can jump in

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

See that bolded line below? That's you.

You're whining just so much and you never partake in any of game day threads or anything here.

Just go front run. Find the best team and be that fan, then you can avoid disappointment.

 

[joestevens29]

Someone mentioned the amount of teams playing tonight. Think it's 12 games, so teams could be just pumping the brakes a little as you don't want to end up making a deal and not having enough players to play.

 

[WhyYouHaveToBeMad]

Apparently Vegas, Vancouver and Dallas will all be in the Cup final.

this year stanley cup final will feature 3 teams all from the west.

 

[Arpeggio]

This for sure, but also deployment. None of Broberg, Holloway or Lavoie have been given real opportunities by this team. Stankoven was recalled from the AHL and promptly put in the top 6, and he's got 5 goals and 9 points in 8 games. Lavoie got what, 6 minutes of the 4th line with Ryan and Brown? Holloway gets a shift with Mcdrai here and there but is otherwise stapled to the 4th line. We don't draft well, and when we find guys, we don't give them an actual shot.

Broberg lost his spot, granted they kept Kulak so he had to play his offside. But the plan was definitely for him to be where Desharnais is right now, and frankly I think it has been for 2-3 seasons now.

 

[Seachd]

Sounds like a good plan to me.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I wonder if they are looking to move Ceci and Foegele out in Eberle and Carrier acquisitions to open up more cap space for next year to cover off some of the Brown overage.

If there was some way to get Foegele and Ceci out and both in at 25% we would kill two birds with one stone. Accomplishing that is likely in the pipe dream category though.

I do not see Foegele going anywhere. It won't happen. Ceci i hope though!!!

 

[Da McBomb]

Yup sounds like Holland is waiting on another move. Usually he would come out and say 'we're done'...

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Part of it. But even before that some teams had advantages others didn’t. The cap was supposed to even the flaying field and for the first 2-3 years it did. Now with this loophole BS and NTC/NMC Bs it’s right back where it was before the cap was brought in. I often wonder if an NFL style franchise tag system would level the field again?

Let’s say for example each team has 3 tags they can place on players at any position. These players only count as 50% of the cap hit but only these players are allowed NMC”s. This would eliminate or should eliminate the premmadonnas that only want to play in the sun and collect a big paycheck. Just a thought I’m sure the PA would never agree though

The cap wasn’t brought in to have parity, it was brought in to limit owners spending so they made more money