Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread: Movie Poster Edition VI- "Kenny Lives"

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I don’t know but it’s starting to look like Holland has no friends in this league. I hope he doesn’t think that because we beat the Leafs last night that his job is done.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Klingberg at double retention is 1.75. Has about 1.6 million in real salary left. Again at double retention would be 0.4 million in real cash to a 3rd team.

The real question is it worth the risk at 1.75 mil. Can’t see the return that the ducks wanting be too high.

Low risk insurance to provide RD depth but also to mitigate against their elite competitive advantage, PP regression if Bouchard's tough season regression continues. As bad as Klingberg's season has been, the guy has 59 playoff games experience including 2019-20 where he rolled off a 21 point in 26 game miracle run to the Cup.

Buy low insurance for this team's greatest weapon.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Holland pretty much straight up said that they believe in Bouchard and bringing in Ekholm was as much as it was to help the team as it was to help get Bouchard back on track.

Bouchard was tracking well last year and then this year Holland messed up. Gave Bouchard a pairing of his own to run at 23 and we saw his game take some issues. That said looking at a ton of the advanced stats, he was playing very well, just his mistakes were very magnified as he didn’t have anyone to really cover when they were made. Young d WILL make mistakes, it’s why a good partner is so important for them.

Ekholm will bring out the best in Bouchard. Wanting to shop him when we have no internal replacements and anyone who will be legit better than him will cost far more than his extension will.

Keep Bouchard. And I can’t believe I am saying this, keep Broberg.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Holland pretty much straight up said that they believe in Bouchard and bringing in Ekholm was as much as it was to help the team as it was to help get Bouchard back on track.

Bouchard was tracking well last year and then this year Holland messed up. Gave Bouchard a pairing of his own to run at 23 and we saw his game take some issues. That said looking at a ton of the advanced stats, he was playing very well, just his mistakes were very magnified as he didn’t have anyone to really cover when they were made. Young d WILL make mistakes, it’s why a good partner is so important for them.

Ekholm will bring out the best in Bouchard. Wanting to shop him when we have no internal replacements and anyone who will be legit better than him will cost far more than his extension will.

Keep Bouchard. And I can’t believe I am saying this, keep Broberg.

That's why we'll get a great return for him. Holland could pull off a gargantuan coup here.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Original.

He'll steal every chance the Oilers have at winning a Cup.

Massive hyperbole. So what’s your plan, like legit. What would you do. You say “Bouchard will be gone and replaced” but you haven’t mentioned a single RHD replacement for him.

 

[BlackDogg]

So Taylor Hall was just put on LTIR, so his season must be over, because he can't be on LTIR and play in the playoffs, the league said that lol

Hopefully for a trade to the Oilers ha ha. But Gary kayboshed it likely.

 

[The Safe Play]

Klingberg makes our team worse easily. There's so much data about how historically awful he is this year defensively even compared to the rest of the Ducks D. He's the D you trade for to try and tank for Bedard. In fact Anaheim should keep him to improve their chances.

 

[CycloneSweep]

That's why we'll get a great return for him. Fools gold.

Again, who would you target for a RHD. And no lefties that might play right isn’t an option.

Who would you target that would be better than Bouchard going forward and won’t cost a ton more?

 

[Fourier]

Bouchard is almost minimum getting 4m just based off last season. Dobson will be a comparable contract. His agent should be looking at the oilers RD depth after barrie left and play complete hardball, oilers won’t want to go into a season with ceci- desharnais- kesselring

Edit Bouchard might be prime offersheet target I don’t think oilers can afford long term and have to go bridge

Bouchard is not arbitration eligible which limits his leverage a lot. If he wants too stay and win he probably needs to recognize that his big payday is a few years down the line. If he wants too much he might find himself being a key asset in an off season deal for Karlsson.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

No, they said you can’t trade for injured guys in LTIR and stash them till playoffs.

Did they actually say that? I was under the impression the league disapproved of that strategy and would look at and review it very critically, but it's not technically against the rules.

What I gleaned from it is they will just do a medical review and if a player is actually fully playoff ready the week before playoffs you can't just hold him out as a means of cap circumvention, but if the injury is legitimate you can fully use LTIR as it was intended and the possibility of getting back that player later on in the playoff drive is a possibility.

 

[YakDavid]

my guess is yams out and klingberg + player making 1 mil in

 

[bobbythebrain]

That's why we'll get a great return for him. Holland could pull off a gargantuan coup here.

We aren't trading Bouchard.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Did they actually say that? I was under the impression the league disapproved of that strategy and would look at and review it very critically, but it's not technically against the rules.

What I gleaned from it is they will just do a medical review and if a player is actually fully playoff ready the week before playoffs you can't just hold him out as a means of cap circumvention, but if the injury is legitimate you can fully use LTIR as it was intended and the possibility of getting back that player later on in the playoff drive is a possibility.

You are right I was just simplifying it.
Basically LTIR your own guys is usually legit, trading for an injured guy and then stashing them to be a free playoff add was something they would look at closely.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Use your brains. Bouchard's on the table.

We aren't trading Bouchard.

we will see

 

[CycloneSweep]

Use your brains. Bouchard's on the table.

Lol.
Use your brain, he absolutely is not. Holland said as much last night.

 

[Fourier]

Did they actually say that? I was under the impression the league disapproved of that strategy and would look at and review it very critically, but it's not technically against the rules.

What I gleaned from it is they will just do a medical review and if a player is actually fully playoff ready the week before playoffs you can't just hold him out as a means of cap circumvention, but if the injury is legitimate you can fully use LTIR as it was intended and the possibility of getting back that player later on in the playoff drive is a possibility.

Nyquist was just traded in the last few days so it seems clear that there is no ban on such moves.

If the injury is legit the NHL would have no grounds to stand on.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Lol.
Use your brain, he absolutely is not. Holland said as much last night.

he definitely should be...

 

[NeverForget06]

Use your brains. Bouchard's on the table.


we will see

What player are we bringing in that is as effective as Bouchard and fits under the cap?

 

[DrDrai]

Original.

He'll steal every chance the Oilers have at winning a Cup.

 

[CycloneSweep]

he definitely should be...

For who? You ignore the question.
Who would you target and trade for that can replace Bouchard on the right side.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Watch Bouchard blow it every critical moment. We've seen it all year and when the games intensify so will his mistakes.

 

[Soundwave]

Bouchard is almost minimum getting 4m just based off last season. Dobson will be a comparable contract. His agent should be looking at the oilers RD depth after barrie left and play complete hardball, oilers won’t want to go into a season with ceci- desharnais- kesselring

Edit Bouchard might be prime offersheet target I don’t think oilers can afford long term and have to go bridge

What exactly is Bouchard's arguement for getting paid the same as Dobson when he is having a worse year? Dobson has more assists than Bouchard has points total and he has 4x as many goals this year, lol.

Bouchard is probably looking at like 3-3.25 x 3 if Dobson is the comparable.

 

[McAsuno]

Use your brains. Bouchard's on the table.


we will see

Lol, yet you have no answer on trading him for who? And who replaces him? Such a ridiculous hyperbole to even suggest trading Bouchard


"Evan Bouchard leads the team in entry denial%. On average, the Oilers defence denies 10.4% of entry attempts, Bouchard is at 15.8%."

 

[NeverForget06]

Watch Bouchard blow it every critical moment. We've seen it all year and when the games intensify so will his mistakes.

Listen I know you're Broberg's dad or something but you're just repeating the same line over and over with no rationale of who they would obtain, how they would fit the pairings, etc

 

[Broberg Speed]

Endless shorthanded breakaways on the horizon with Bouchard on the PP.

Lazy backchecking and blown coverage.

Trade him. His value is peak.