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WaitingForUser said:
The money is all gone though I mean we have $167 in cap space and with the eastern teams grabbing everyone under the sun I don’t think anyone has any cash left to make a splash. I could the Avs maybe adding Klinberg and Sheary or something maybe?
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It’s already been pointed out that the Oilers could add Sheary at 50% and TVR at full contract even with no cap space just by sending a couple guys down. I imagine other teams are in the same position .
 
5 14 6 1 said:
Unprotected first for JE !

If we could somehow poach a Sheary I'd give the deadline an A+

I don't expect the RD spot to be filled, I think we puruse Karlsson in the off-season. Maybe a depth veteran Dman
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I think the RD is a mystery box until we see what happens in this years playoffs. If we go out early I expect a hard pursuit of Ek65 or Paryko. If we go to the finals and lose I see the same thing. If we bow out in the WCF we may just roll the dice another year. If we win the Cup no changes will be made.
 
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Pretty much done by the looks of it, could see some retention on guys making league min.. even some 3 way trades with just single retention tomorrow just for cap reasons
 
Soundwave said:
San Jose can piss off, be serious and make a deal now, this whole "in the summer we can make a deal" thing is such bullshit.
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It really isn't. In-season cap limitations are a real thing. Especially when it comes to fitting in a player making $10m+ to a playoff team already beyond the cap ceiling, dipping into LTI.
 
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WaitingForUser said:
I think the RD is a mystery box until we see what happens in this years playoffs. If we go out early I expect a hard pursuit of Ek65 or Paryko. If we go to the finals and lose I see the same thing. If we bow out in the WCF we may just roll the dice another year.
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Scenario 1: Bow out early. (Lose in first two rounds)
Scenario 2: Lose in the WCF again.
Scenario 3: Lose in the Finals.

Why is scenario 2 treated differently than 1 and 3?

Odd that the two cases at the end of the spectrum get the same treatment, while the one in the middle is treated differently. I'm interested to hear what you were thinking.
 
Jimmi McJenkins said:
Peeke will cost too much to acquire. TVR would make a better fit.
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Trevor likely doesn't play unless injuries...Andrew makes the whole defense much better by working better with Nurse ...by pushing Ceci down a pair and making a hard minutes pair with Ekholm, by taking weight off the 3rd pair giving them soft minutes mostly.
A mostly developed Right side D with offensive game developing and strong defensive numbers-- 1st, equivalent of second and Yamo. For less than 3 million for next 3 or 4 years.....
And you compare him to TVR....
 
Spawn said:
It’s already been pointed out that the Oilers could add Sheary at 50% and TVR at full contract even with no cap space just by sending a couple guys down. I imagine other teams are in the same position .
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I guess maybe Seattle could make a splash they have cap room and haven’t done anything yet at all.
 
Fourier said:
My feelings as well. It's a longshot but I do think there is a chance that Kesselring makes it someday. I don't see Dineen making it on the Oilers though. It seems clear that they want size on the backend.

In the end though, winning now is the clear focus. And that is appropriate so I won't worry about this until I have to.
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Knowing Dineen's game, I kind of like the trade-off from the Condors' perspective. You could make the argument that Dineen's ability to transport the puck might benefit our forwards down there. I wouldn't mind if he turns out to be a reliable AHL vet and potential callup.

Though I will say that Kesselring's combination of size and shot made him a pretty interesting prospect. I hope he gets a shot in Arizona.
 
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Oilhawks said:
Flames trading for Edmundson would be almost as hilarious as watching them sell.


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Yep
Flames are the only team that has not made a trade during this season.
The wizzard of the south must be wandering the desert with his head in the sand.
 
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belair said:
It really isn't. In-season cap limitations are a real thing. Especially when it comes to fitting in a player making $10m+ to a playoff team already beyond the cap ceiling, dipping into LTI.
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You have to be cap compliant to start every year no matter what, the deal the Oilers can offer in the summer is going to be the same, probably less now frankly.

We already spent a lot of draft capital to get Ekholm, if San Jose thinks we’re offering more in the summer they’re full of it.

Grier is a young GM, think the reality he is too chicken to pull off a deal that big that early into his tenure but I can see Karlsson becoming upset the longer they keep him there.
 
5 14 6 1 said:
In the off-season. Campbell, Kulak, Ceci, Yamamoto all options for money going out. Bourgault, 1st, 2nd on the table.

Karlsson retained at 33% = 7.5m
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So you clear out 4 players to take on one. Let’s pretend you replace them all with $2MM players, that gives you $8.1MM of total space. That works for Karlsson with $4MM retained

So you’re paying Bourgault, 1st and 2nd to get rid of them.

- What are you paying to get Karlsson with $4MM retained for 4 more years?
- What sort of players can you get to replace these important spots at $2MM? Do you trust Skinner to be a started without a solid goalie to run in tandem? Who slots in as a Top 6 RW for that price? Can you find a decent bottom pair RW to play with Broberg?
 
Harry Curry said:
Scenario 1: Bow out early. (Lose in first two rounds)
Scenario 2: Lose in the WCF again.
Scenario 3: Lose in the Finals.

Why is scenario 2 treated differently than 1 and 3?

Odd that the two cases at the end of the spectrum get the same treatment, while the one in the middle is treated differently. I'm interested to hear what you were thinking.
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Because Holland knows the team is close he just isn’t sure how close.

In scenario 1 we lose out in the first round and Holland realizes our D won’t cut it and makes an impact move.

In scenario 2 we show that we can contend but maybe just need some internal growth to take the final step.

In scenario 3 Holland sees this team is ready to Win it all NOW and adds the final piece.

Just my opinion but this is the way I see it playing out.
 
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belair said:
Knowing Dineen's game, I kind of like the trade-off from the Condors' perspective. You could make the argument that Dineen's ability to transport the puck might benefit our forwards down there. I wouldn't mind if he turns out to be a reliable AHL vet and potential callup.

Though I will say that Kesselring's combination of size and shot made him a pretty interesting prospect. I hope he gets a shot in Arizona.
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Yes, I did previously acknowledge that at the AHL level Dineen fits well. He is an RFA at the end of this year so it will be interesting to see if they sign him. I think they will because they have gone from an over supply of defensive prospects to a but of a shortage. This is especially true if what ever is going on with Wanner is serious enough to derail his career.

One interesting guy in this regard is Yevseyev.
 
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Hey this one’s a long shot but Ehlers has been in Bowness’ dog house for quite some time + he doesn’t want to be there next year. Would it be too far fetched to grab him, sending Yamo + 1st on the way?
 
While Bjugstad is not the guy i wanted he will do at least part of the job -- hope he stays healthy.
One more move if its the right one can make us a very hard out with our already existing firepower.
 
Spawn said:
There’s still a handful of guys who will probably return a pick or something.

Athanasiou
JVR
Klingberg
Bonino
Kulikov
Sheary
TVR

Probably a few other guys. Pretty slim pickings though.
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Any RW that can play better than Yams and for the same or similar cap hit?
 
Nostradumbass said:
So you clear out 4 players to take on one. Let’s pretend you replace them all with $2MM players, that gives you $8.1MM of total space. That works for Karlsson with $4MM retained

So you’re paying Bourgault, 1st and 2nd to get rid of them.

- What are you paying to get Karlsson with $4MM retained for 4 more years?
- What sort of players can you get to replace these important spots at $2MM? Do you trust Skinner to be a started without a solid goalie to run in tandem? Who slots in as a Top 6 RW for that price? Can you find a decent bottom pair RW to play with Broberg?
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Not all of them. You only need to offload 2. Ceci and Campbell would be my choice. You pay a pricey package of futures to get retention (Bourgault, 1st, 2nd, Savoie as example).

You also have to keep in mind SJ is motivated to move on from the player, and player seems unhappy there.

Kane - McDavid - Hyman
RNH - Draisaitl - Yamo
Holloway - McLeod - Foegele
Kostin - Ryan - Shore
League min vet

Ekholm - Karlsson
Nurse - Bouchard
Broberg - Kulak
Desharnais/league min vet

Skinner
UFA

Is it easy? No. But it is within the realm of possibility.
 
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Anarchism said:
Nurse -- Peeke
Ekholm -- Ceci
Kulak -- Bouchard
Broberg -- Desi

Looks like a D that can play D consistently....is affordable cap wise now and in the future.
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I dunno. Bouchard looked pretty good with Ekholm last night.

5 14 6 1 said:
Not all of them. You only need to offload 2. Ceci and Campbell would be my choice. You pay a pricey package of futures to get retention (Bourgault, 1st, 2nd, Savoie as example).

You also have to keep in mind SJ is motivated to move on from the player, and player seems unhappy there.

Kane - McDavid - Hyman
RNH - Draisaitl - Yamo
Holloway - McLeod - Foegele
Kostin - Ryan - Shore
League min vet

Ekholm - Karlsson
Nurse - Bouchard
Broberg - Kulak
Desharnais/league min vet

Skinner
UFA

Is it easy? No. But it is within the realm of possibility.
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That D would be monstrous.
 
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