Proposal: Rumors and Proposals Thread: Chia's Quest For D and WINNING!

[thadd]

He also signed a 1 year deal to play for Bakersfield next year. Oilers have 2 of those top 5 guys under wraps for next year now. Not bad.

I wonder how hard it is to convince a college player to join a team in the basement. Might be easy to convince them that there's a good chance for them to get minutes if they improve quickly... but if Edmonton actually continues to move forward and improve with their new management and coaching team you'd think that it might not be easy for us to continue to pick up players like this.

I'm really curious to see how our prospects are handled now that Mac-T and K-Lowe are out of the window.

Curious to see how experienced managers and coaches handle their prospects whom aren't 1st overall picks when their team is at the bottom of the standings.

This year we had to give a lot of minutes to players who maybe should have been in the minors because of injuries. Next year should be interesting.

 

[ResilientBeast]

The 4th line might outscore the 1st
Good lord

I just like Yak and want him to succeed so badly

 

[ResilientBeast]

Or trade Eberle for Hamonic
Yak to somewhere nice for something not so nice

Hall - RNH - Drasaitl
Pouliot - McDavid - Laine
Maroon - Backes - XXX
Hendricks - Letestu - Kassian

Klefbom - Hamonic
Sekera - Demers
Davidson - Fayne

Talbot

 

[thadd]

Let a guy dream, we win again.....HfBoards implodes

Eberle -------> Hamonic (plz)

Pouliot - RNH - Yakupov
Matthews - McDavid - Backes
Hall - Drasaitl - Maroon
Hendricks - Letestu - Kassian

Klefbom - Hamonic
Sekera - Demers
Davidson - Fayne
Osterle

Talbot

There is no way provided we don't lose 4 forwards and 2 D all at once that team won't be better right?

I'd love that deal but I think that the Islanders would want more.

One thing that's a plus of missing the playoffs is that we have the right to make deals with other teams that are out of the playoffs long in advance.

As soon as the regular season is over I'd try to get my hands on Trouba. I'd prefer the deal to revolve around Hopkins. I don't know who would have to add. That's irrelevant. But after you take Trouba off of the market it hurts the Islanders' options and makes it easier for us to go after Hamonic.

Demers is a decent option but if we can I'd rather make a push for the playoffs next year.

Having Klefbom, Trouba, Sekera, Davidson and Hamonic locked up long term would give us all good reason to sleep better at night and going forward management would be looking for top six forwards to play with Drai and McDavid and bottom six forwards... which are the easiest positions to fill by far.

I'm pretty sure there's a low chance that we trade our first rounder but if we did I'd be pretty excited. If we don't they'll be able to make solid middle 6 contributions whether we're drafting 1st, 2nd or 3rd overall. The chances of us drafting 4th overall are incredibly low. No way I can see 4th overall playing in the NHL for the Oilers next year as I imagine we'd end up drafting a d-man.

 

[McTrashBoat]

I just like Yak and want him to succeed so badly

yeah me too, I just don't know why he hasn't to some degree

 

[ResilientBeast]

I'd love that deal but I think that the Islanders would want more.

One thing that's a plus of missing the playoffs is that we have the right to make deals with other teams that are out of the playoffs long in advance.

As soon as the regular season is over I'd try to get my hands on Trouba. I'd prefer the deal to revolve around Hopkins. I don't know who would have to add. That's irrelevant. But after you take Trouba off of the market it hurts the Islanders' options and makes it easier for us to go after Hamonic.

Demers is a decent option but if we can I'd rather make a push for the playoffs next year.

Having Klefbom, Trouba, Sekera, Davidson and Hamonic locked up long term would give us all good reason to sleep better at night and going forward management would be looking for top six forwards to play with Drai and McDavid and bottom six forwards... which are the easiest positions to fill by far.

I'm pretty sure there's a low chance that we trade our first rounder but if we did I'd be pretty excited. If we don't they'll be able to make solid middle 6 contributions whether we're drafting 1st, 2nd or 3rd overall. The chances of us drafting 4th overall are incredibly low. No way I can see 4th overall playing in the NHL for the Oilers next year as I imagine we'd end up drafting a d-man.

I wouldn't be comfortable with Leon and Connor as out top 3 centermen IMO. Also trouba is looking for a big deal and has taken a step back this year.

 

[thadd]

I wouldn't be comfortable with Leon and Connor as out top 3 centermen IMO. Also trouba is looking for a big deal and has taken a step back this year.

That's not certain. He just might be looking for a big deal to stay with the Jets.

Ladd also wanted an insane amount of money to stay, but he's not going to get 7M to play with another team.

 

[Mr Positive]

I wouldn't be comfortable with Leon and Connor as out top 3 centermen IMO. Also trouba is looking for a big deal and has taken a step back this year.

I don't believe the rumours about Trouba really. He's likely asking for good money but not what is rumoured. Winnipeg is probably chiseling him a bit since they want to save every dollar they can get away with saving. Trouba's RFA so it makes sense.

Trouba is the best name out there that could potentially be available. He's a top pairing guy. Better than Hamonic and Vatanen.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I don't believe the rumours about Trouba really. He's likely asking for good money but not what is rumoured. Winnipeg is probably chiseling him a bit since they want to save every dollar they can get away with saving. Trouba's RFA so it makes sense.

Trouba is the best name out there that could potentially be available. He's a top pairing guy. Better than Hamonic and Vatanen.

Eh, I'm going to disagree with you there. Trouba had a fantastic rookie season but he hasn't lived up to it since. I'd pretty easily take Hamonic over him. He definitely has the potential to be an all around #1 guy though. The Jets would definitely want Draisaitl or a top 5 pick for him though.

 

[thadd]

Eh, I'm going to disagree with you there. Trouba had a fantastic rookie season but he hasn't lived up to it since. I'd pretty easily take Hamonic over him. He definitely has the potential to be an all around #1 guy though. The Jets would definitely want Draisaitl or a top 5 pick for him though.

Jets want to compete now. I'm pretty sure a deal around one of our forwards could work. They need more skilled forwards that can put the puck in the net. They've got tons of big guys that are tough as nails and with Myers, Trouba and Buff all being right handed they need to make a move.

 

[Spawn]

Jets want to compete now. I'm pretty sure a deal around one of our forwards could work. They need more skilled forwards that can put the puck in the net. They've got tons of big guys that are tough as nails and with Myers, Trouba and Buff all being right handed they need to make a move.

Not sure why the Jets would target Nuge. Is he's realistically much of an upgrade on either of their top 2 centers currently. Little pus up comparable, or better numbers and Scheifele is having a break out year that blows current Nuge away.

 

[thadd]

Not sure why the Jets would target Nuge. Is he's realistically much of an upgrade on either of their top 2 centers currently. Little pus up comparable, or better numbers and Scheifele is having a break out year that blows current Nuge away.

Now that I think about it, you're right. We should probably be trying to peddle Hall or Eberle to the Jets.

 

[Hemsky4PM]

Bring in two of the following 5 guys this summer and it would be a serious success. Eberle gone, Yakupov gone.

5 D to target: C. Ceci, J. Trouba, T. Hamonic, J. Demers and S. Vatanen

Forwards:

Hall - RNH - Draisaitl
Maroon - McDavid - Pouliot
Korpikoski - ??? - ???
Hendricks - Letestu - Pakarainen

Helm, Nielsen and Matthias are all potential third liners to target as UFAs. There is also an outside shot at adding Matthew or Laine at the draft.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Now that I think about it, you're right. We should probably be trying to peddle Hall or Eberle to the Jets.

If the Jets had that kind of money to spend they would have just re-signed their captain.

 

[joestevens29]

I think Oilers are way beyond point of trying to accommodate current players. They need to create competition. Sign as many good prospects as you can and have intense internal battle. If a current prospect is cut loose because newbie ate their lunch, too bad so sad

Eetu was a FA signing, so if he returns to Finland because we upgraded is that really a loss? For him yes. But for Oilers its a win. These goalies will have to train super hard and bring their A game for camp

Him playing only 1 year is a double edge sword. On one hand was it just a flukey year? on the other, if you didnt sign him and wait for next year and he posts a 0.935 again, you can bet there will be a bidding war. Its not like he was a 0.900 starting goalie and then turned it on. He had 5 and 7 starts the season before. Maybe he is a true 0.936 goalie and a gem

Yep, and like I said before there is a new GM who doesn't have a lot of ties to the current players. Who knows if Brossoit is even here next year. I'm sure he is, but at the same time if PC sees a guy he likes more I don't think he hesitates to move Brossoit.

 

[joestevens29]

If the Jets had that kind of money to spend they would have just re-signed their captain.

Maybe, but they might've been more concerned about giving too many 30 year olds long-term deals.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Maybe, but they might've been more concerned about giving too many 30 year olds long-term deals.

I'm pretty sure it's a financial thing.

If they want their cap to be where it's been, they have $8M to sign Trouba, Schiefele and potentially a replacent for Ladd.

 

[Originally Posted By*]

Trade Hall and acquire the defenceman.

Find me a team that builds around an elite left wing at the expense of defence and has gone far?

LA, Boston, Chicago all have the great dman with average to above average wingers (kane excluded).

Trade Hall, an elite LW is a luxury not a neccessity.

 

[McWeber]

Trade Hall and acquire the defenceman.

Find me a team that builds around an elite left wing at the expense of defence and has gone far?

LA, Boston, Chicago all have the great dman with average to above average wingers (kane excluded).

Trade Hall, an elite LW is a luxury not a neccessity.

Show me a team that became successful from trading away their best talent? Noone is giving us equal value in D for Hall, it would be a collection of lesser pieces. The Capitals are a pretty good team and didnt have to trade Ovechkin to make it happen.

 

[Aceboogie]

Trade Hall and acquire the defenceman.

Find me a team that builds around an elite left wing at the expense of defence and has gone far?

LA, Boston, Chicago all have the great dman with average to above average wingers (kane excluded).

Trade Hall, an elite LW is a luxury not a neccessity.

Oh god not this again. Teams get build it different ways. Dallas and Tampa were both build on speed and skilled forwards (plus average D cores). Washington was build around a winger for 10 years and won Presidents trophy (plus is a contender now)

I made the analogy before. But building a team is like building a car. Some teams build massive trucks and were successful. Some build smaller sports cars and successful. Our car right now looks like a 90% built ferrari that just needs some new back tires. But for some reason fans want to trade all the pieces away for likely quarters on the dollar to get parts to try and build a truck

LA and Chicago both took 6 years to rebuild to current structure. Everyone ready for another 6 year rebuild

 

[Aceboogie]

Or trade Eberle for Hamonic
Yak to somewhere nice for something not so nice

Hall - RNH - Drasaitl
Pouliot - McDavid - Laine
Maroon - Backes - XXX
Hendricks - Letestu - Kassian

Klefbom - Hamonic
Sekera - Demers
Davidson - Fayne

Talbot

That XXX would really be filled nice by a hard forechecking forward, bonus points if he has a great shot

 

[Originally Posted By*]

Show me a team that became successful from trading away their best talent? Noone is giving us equal value in D for Hall, it would be a collection of lesser pieces. The Capitals are a pretty good team and didnt have to trade Ovechkin to make it happen.

2 problems with this post.

Hall is not our best player or best talent

Hall is not Ovechkin (50 goal scorer who hit 65 in his prime).

We have enough talent to make up the loss of a winger, we have no defenceman at all. Why is that such a hard concept to understand?

 

[Originally Posted By*]

Oh god not this again. Teams get build it different ways. Dallas and Tampa were both build on speed and skilled forwards (plus average D cores). Washington was build around a winger for 10 years and won Presidents trophy (plus is a contender now)

I made the analogy before. But building a team is like building a car. Some teams build massive trucks and were successful. Some build smaller sports cars and successful. Our car right now looks like a 90% built ferrari that just needs some new back tires. But for some reason fans want to trade all the pieces away for likely quarters on the dollar to get parts to try and build a truck

LA and Chicago both took 6 years to rebuild to current structure. Everyone ready for another 6 year rebuild

Ferrari? Lol

Last place 6 consecutive years is far from looking like a ferrari. It looks like a piece of **** with 4 wheels, and sometimes the car turns on (depending on the day).

We have one player who is a ferrari, the team is not a ferrari. The team is a chevrolet nova.

 

[smokersarejokers]

Oh god not this again. Teams get build it different ways. Dallas and Tampa were both build on speed and skilled forwards (plus average D cores). Washington was build around a winger for 10 years and won Presidents trophy (plus is a contender now)

I made the analogy before. But building a team is like building a car. Some teams build massive trucks and were successful. Some build smaller sports cars and successful. Our car right now looks like a 90% built ferrari that just needs some new back tires. But for some reason fans want to trade all the pieces away for likely quarters on the dollar to get parts to try and build a truck

LA and Chicago both took 6 years to rebuild to current structure. Everyone ready for another 6 year rebuild

The Oilers are nowhere near a "90% Ferrari", they're tied for last place and they're close to the salary cap. That's bad.

They shouldn't trade every single player, but major moves definitely need to be made.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

2 problems with this post.

Hall is not our best player or best talent

Hall is not Ovechkin (50 goal scorer who hit 65 in his prime).

We have enough talent to make up the loss of a winger, we have no defenceman at all. Why is that such a hard concept to understand?

You don't trade Hall unless you're getting a #1 defenceman. If you traded Hall for anyone else, you're the laughingstock of the league.

#1 defencemen don't get traded.

Ergo, Hall doesn't get traded.