Proposal: Rumors and Proposals Thread: Chia's Quest For D and WINNING!

[Aerchon]

In the incredibly unlikely situation we win #1 pick again. Plus the Oilers are willing to move Mathews to a divisional rival. Plus Arizona is willing to trade their #1 D. I would think things would go like this:

Trade #1 to Arizona for OEL. Trade Klefbom to NYI for Harmonic. Trade Yak for a RW with less potential and more substance. Sign a legit backup goalie. Stay healthy. Whole "core" group gets a shot to play with a legit top 4 nhl caliber defense and goaltending.

Hall Leon Kassian
Maroon Mcdavid Ebs
Poo RNH Yak replacement
Hendricks Lets Paka

OEL Harmonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Fayne

Talbot
XXX/LB

Plus with some decent depth in case of minor injuries.

Never going to actually happen but if it did at least the values make sense and our defence would actually be "fixed". Without losing the elite skill that so far has not had a great opportunity to succeed.

 

[Young Lions*]

What about this scenerio.

Edmontons wins the 3rd overall pick, Puljujarvi is still on the board. Chiarelli goes to Carolina and offers them a deal around 3rd overall for Faulk.

Reason Carolina does it: Unite Puljujarvi and Aho who play on same FEL team and dominated WJCs together. After Staal left they are weak on forwards. They build a strong top 6. They lose Faulk but have Hanifin and Fluery on the back end. Plus could get a good D at 10 this year

Reason Edmonton does it: Simple, Faulk is a young top pairing RHD on a discount deal

Bonus: trade Eberle for Hamonic

Klefbom-Faulk
Sekera-Hamonic
Nurse-Davidson

I can't see Carolina trading Faulk unless he asks for a trade and if he asks for a trade, it won't be to Edmonton.

 

[McJadeddog]

I think you can get Lucic...and not do a significant overpay. The others wont come here period. With Marroon, Pou, Ebs, Yak, Hall, and more free agency. You only really need a Lucic signing to finish a reshaping of the top end of your forward corps.

lucic isn't going to come to the worst franchise in north american pro sports, when he'll be able to pick almost any team in the league to go to... lucic is almost a unicorn in the NHL with his skill-set, he'll get ridiculous offers from numerous teams

why, exactly, other than an relationship with chia and the supposed "connor effect" would lucic come here? lucic wants to win cups, he won't be doing that in edmonton (sorry, but its true)

 

[Jet Walters]

I can't see Carolina trading Faulk unless he asks for a trade and if he asks for a trade, it won't be to Edmonton.

Probably correct. He has a limited no-trade clause where he submits a list of 15 teams he would accept a trade to. Doubtful the Oilers would be on that list considering he is an American.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

In the incredibly unlikely situation we win #1 pick again. Plus the Oilers are willing to move Mathews to a divisional rival. Plus Arizona is willing to trade their #1 D. I would think things would go like this:

Trade #1 to Arizona for OEL. Trade Klefbom to NYI for Harmonic. Trade Yak for a RW with less potential and more substance. Sign a legit backup goalie. Stay healthy. Whole "core" group gets a shot to play with a legit top 4 nhl caliber defense and goaltending.

Hall Leon Kassian
Maroon Mcdavid Ebs
Poo RNH Yak replacement
Hendricks Lets Paka

OEL Harmonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Fayne

Talbot
XXX/LB

Plus with some decent depth in case of minor injuries.

Never going to actually happen but if it did at least the values make sense and our defence would actually be "fixed". Without losing the elite skill that so far has not had a great opportunity to succeed.

Kassian has no business being anywhere near the top six at this point. I think he starts next year on the 4th line.

I think we see:

Hall-RNH-Drai
Maroon-McDavid-Brouwer/Versteeg/Stempniak/Matthias/Trade
Pouliot-Richards/Helm/Kelly/Trade-Yakupov/Khaira/Pakarinen
Hendricks-Letestu-Khaira/Pakarinen/Cracknell/Kassian

Klefbom-Hamonic
Goligoski/Hamhuis/Sekera-Sekera/Demers/Lovejoy
Davidson-Nurse/Reinhart/Oesterle

Talbot
Ramo/Enroth/Montoya/Ward/Johnson/Rantaa

 

[Draiskull]

Lazar is a RHS and is younger and grittier than Eberle.
I hope Chia can swap Yakupov for Lazar

Backes (RHS) is #1 on my list if we are targeting a UFA forward. Ideal player to add especially at that age. This team lacks a veteran lead from front type player up front.

Eberle + Yak out Backes + Lazar in and the forwards are set.

Hall-Drai-Backes
Pouliot-McD-Lazar
Maroon-RNH-Kassian

That is a whole lot of big... Hall and Lazar arent small either.

 

[McJadeddog]

What about this scenerio.

Edmontons wins the 3rd overall pick, Puljujarvi is still on the board. Chiarelli goes to Carolina and offers them a deal around 3rd overall for Faulk.

Reason Carolina does it: Unite Puljujarvi and Aho who play on same FEL team and dominated WJCs together. After Staal left they are weak on forwards. They build a strong top 6. They lose Faulk but have Hanifin and Fluery on the back end. Plus could get a good D at 10 this year

Reason Edmonton does it: Simple, Faulk is a young top pairing RHD on a discount deal

Bonus: trade Eberle for Hamonic

Klefbom-Faulk
Sekera-Hamonic
Nurse-Davidson

we make that trade every time, unfortunately, there isn't a CHANCE that carolina does that deal (barring the GM having a massive stroke and accidentally dialing chia)

 

[Aerchon]

Not sure why so many think Harmonic for Eberle is a thing.

NYI want a defenseman in return. A legit top 4 defender.

We also have zero right shooting depth. Trading Eberle cripples our goal scoring and leaves us with no true top 6 options.

We would fill a bigger need but open an incredibly big hole as well.

 

[joestevens29]

What about this scenerio.

Edmontons wins the 3rd overall pick, Puljujarvi is still on the board. Chiarelli goes to Carolina and offers them a deal around 3rd overall for Faulk.

Reason Carolina does it: Unite Puljujarvi and Aho who play on same FEL team and dominated WJCs together. After Staal left they are weak on forwards. They build a strong top 6. They lose Faulk but have Hanifin and Fluery on the back end. Plus could get a good D at 10 this year

Reason Edmonton does it: Simple, Faulk is a young top pairing RHD on a discount deal

Bonus: trade Eberle for Hamonic

Klefbom-Faulk
Sekera-Hamonic
Nurse-Davidson

Regardless of who they have in the system it would be a mistake to move Faulk unless he demands out. If they want to move out guys for forwards then move Fleury, heck even Hanifin.

 

[Birdperson]

Not sure why so many think Harmonic for Eberle is a thing.

NYI want a defenseman in return. A legit top 4 defender.

We also have zero right shooting depth. Trading Eberle cripples our goal scoring and leaves us with no true top 6 options.

We would fill a bigger need but open an incredibly big hole as well.

They haven't gotten a defensemen in return yet and no ones going to make a lateral move and send a top 4 guy for a top 4 guy. Even their beloved Arthur Staple said it's unlikely they'll get a defensemen in return.

 

[McDraekke]

In the incredibly unlikely situation we win #1 pick again. Plus the Oilers are willing to move Mathews to a divisional rival. Plus Arizona is willing to trade their #1 D. I would think things would go like this:

Trade #1 to Arizona for OEL. Trade Klefbom to NYI for Harmonic. Trade Yak for a RW with less potential and more substance. Sign a legit backup goalie. Stay healthy. Whole "core" group gets a shot to play with a legit top 4 nhl caliber defense and goaltending.

Hall Leon Kassian
Maroon Mcdavid Ebs
Poo RNH Yak replacement
Hendricks Lets Paka

OEL Harmonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Fayne

Talbot
XXX/LB

Plus with some decent depth in case of minor injuries.

Never going to actually happen but if it did at least the values make sense and our defence would actually be "fixed". Without losing the elite skill that so far has not had a great opportunity to succeed.

I would do this, but I wouldn't just limit my options to Arizona. I would open it up to whomever wants him, as long as they have a #1 dman worthwhile enough.

 

[joestevens29]

Not sure why so many think Harmonic for Eberle is a thing.

NYI want a defenseman in return. A legit top 4 defender.

We also have zero right shooting depth. Trading Eberle cripples our goal scoring and leaves us with no true top 6 options.

We would fill a bigger need but open an incredibly big hole as well.

Filling a bigger hole is essentially what has to be done this summer. Ideally you don't make a hole, but they can't sit around waiting for that perfect trade anymore.

As for what the Isles want. At this point they are running out of options. They are in a similar boat to the Oilers(trade wise) and at some point they might have to make the deal that is there and not what they want there.

 

[Aerchon]

If we drop to the third pick or worse I think using that pick as a package for a Harmonic or better D is our only real option.

 

[Draiskull]

we make that trade every time, unfortunately, there isn't a CHANCE that carolina does that deal (barring the GM having a massive stroke and accidentally dialing chia)

we have the luxury to "throw in" Yakupov to the deal. Doubt CAR bites.

RNH + 3rd overall pick for Faulk + J.Staal.

CAR would gladly swap Staal for RNH I am sure ... He hasnt been what they hoped but as a 3rd line C would be great in Edmonton.

 

[Jet Walters]

Not sure why so many think Harmonic for Eberle is a thing.

NYI want a defenseman in return. A legit top 4 defender.

We also have zero right shooting depth. Trading Eberle cripples our goal scoring and leaves us with no true top 6 options.

We would fill a bigger need but open an incredibly big hole as well.

It really depends on who they lose to free agency. IF Okposo and Nielsen walk it could change things. I still think a 3-way deal with the Blues/Oilers/Isles could be in the cards with Shattenkirk going to the Isles, RNH to the Blues, and Hamonic and maybe Sobotka to the Oilers.

The right handed shot point is valid and it looks like those players are very limited in UFA. I would target one of Zibanejad, Simmonds, or Backes as right shooting top 6 replacements for Eberle.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

If we drop to the third pick or worse I think using that pick as a package for a Harmonic or better D is our only real option.

I don't know about that. There's no real A+ defenceman available in free agency but there are quite a few B+ guys. If we were able to sign a guy like Goligoski or Demers I'd probably begrudgingly consider Nurse for Hamonic, though I would hate every minute of giving those smug...people... exactly what their GM has been demanding.

 

[Birdperson]

 

[Pointteen]

No clue who he is but awesome. Players wanting to come here is right up my alley.

 

[joestevens29]

Teammate of the Janitor .

Is this where MacT was yesterday?

 

[Aceboogie]

0.936 in 36 games

But Frairs are a notorious defense first team. Plus Jankowski carried that team. He had the luxury of playing behind a better version of Toews, thatll help his #s

Calgary is hurting for goalies, weird they didnt nab him

 

[Spawn]

Played with the best player of the 2012 draft. Mark Jankowski. I never know anything about college free agents. But he's got excellent numbers. 25-7-4 1.80 GAA .936 sv%

For comparison, the goalie the Flyers signed the other day that it was rumoured the Oilers were after was 19-8-4, with 1.64 GAA .936 sv%

Who knows with these guys though. Everyone was going giddy for Matt O'Connor last year, and he signed with the Sens. And he's stunk the joint up this year in the AHL.

 

[McTrashBoat]

0.936 in 36 games

But Frairs are a notorious defense first team

Calgary is hurting for goalies, weird they didnt nab him

Makes me think of Hamilton last year

Just sign all the goalies

 

[Aceboogie]

Not sure why so many think Harmonic for Eberle is a thing.

NYI want a defenseman in return. A legit top 4 defender.

We also have zero right shooting depth. Trading Eberle cripples our goal scoring and leaves us with no true top 6 options.

We would fill a bigger need but open an incredibly big hole as well.

Even the biggest Isles homer "insider" Arthur Staples is syaing they arent getting a D back and a winger (Eberle) is likely return

 

[smokersarejokers]

Well, he has wicked numbers this year. That said, it's his first year as a starter in the NCAA.

I wonder where he goes? Isn't it obvious that Brossoit needs to go back to Bakersfield next year and start? What happens to Laurikainen? Back to Finland?

I hope this Ellis dude is OK with possible ECHL time.

 

[Aceboogie]

Well, he has wicked numbers this year. That said, it's his first year as a starter in the NCAA.

I wonder where he goes? Isn't it obvious that Brossoit needs to go back to Bakersfield next year and start? What happens to Laurikainen? Back to Finland?

I hope this Ellis dude is OK with possible ECHL time.

Brossoit as start in AHL for 30 games, then gets some a good amount of NHL call ups (if he earns it). Eetu becomes starter in AHL when Brossoit goes up. Ellis ECHL starter then bumped up to AHL

Brossoit: 30 games in AHL, 10 games in NHL
Eetu- 25 games in AHL
Ellis-30 games in ECHL, 5 games in AHL

Encouraging thing about Ellis was that he was signed in his "Junior year" but his first true starting year. Maybe next year he does it again (in NCAA) and is highly sought after if hes not signed now