ATD: Rules - Discussion - Trades Thread

[VanIslander]

Making up skipped picks after the first 10 rounds is usually par for the course.

Play on!

 

[Tony Romo]

So at 133pm eastern @Voight is skipped? Rules say 6 hours for these rounds not counting overnight down time, last pick at 1033pm eastern (downtime midnight-9am). So Voight not trying to criticize, we all get busy just asking

Go nuts

 

[VanIslander]

Nuts!

 

[Holden Caulfield]

It's actually @Halladay before me, sorry about the confusion

 

[VanIslander]

Halladay, Holden... same diff for my next pick.

 

[Tony Romo]

@Halladay you are up boss, @Voight has been skipped.

 

[Hasbro]

I’m sure @Voight would want Jamarcus Russel with this pick.

 

[GKJ]

I’m sure @Voight would want Jamarcus Russel with this pick.

You sure it’s not Reche Caldwell?

 

[Hasbro]

You sure it’s not Reche Caldwell?

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Who did I do that to?

 

[GKJ]

Who did I do that to?

I don’t remember, it was a long time ago now. Has to be like 10 years since we did this.

 

[Hasbro]

I don’t remember, it was a long time ago now. Has to be like 10 years since we did this.

Yeah I was looking for those rosters. No luck.

I remember someone took Shawne Merrimen

 

[GKJ]

Yeah I was looking for those rosters. No luck.

I remember someone took Shawne Merrimen

That was early too.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Ugh, I forgot about "Constantly Surprised" Caldwell...underrated punchable face...

 

[GKJ]

The great irony with Andy Reid as an offensive coordinator is that he hasn’t done that job since working at division II San Francisco State, which hasn’t had a football program for 30 years.

 

[VanIslander]

Yet, Andy's OCs thrive under his command.
He is a hands-on coach.

 

[Voight]

My bad folks, first time I've been able to log on here all day

 

[Michael Farkas]

I'd view taking a coach who has excellent offensive teams and putting him at OC here is like having Evgeni Malkin as your second line center.

 

[Voight]

I’m sure @Voight would want Jamarcus Russel with this pick.

He was certainly on the shortlist

 

[Michael Farkas]

Perhaps some interesting facts and figures for no real reason.

Data is only available from 1994 to present.

QBs with most passing attempts on plays in the opponent red zone with scoring -16/+16

Player	Cmp	Att▼	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	TD%	Int%	Sk/Att
Tom Brady	936​	1633​	57.3​	6461​	399​	25​	78​	24.43%​	1.53%​	4.34%​
Drew Brees	869​	1372​	63.3​	5832​	341​	35​	45​	24.85%​	2.55%​	3.13%​
Peyton Manning	717​	1241​	57.8​	4963​	307​	30​	27​	24.74%​	2.42%​	2.07%​
Brett Favre	656​	1170​	56.1​	4677​	286​	37​	57​	24.44%​	3.16%​	4.59%​
Aaron Rodgers	660​	1130​	58.4​	4291​	291​	14​	64​	25.75%​	1.24%​	5.08%​
Ben Roethlisberger	604​	1130​	53.5​	4238​	252​	26​	62​	22.30%​	2.30%​	5.05%​
Matt Ryan	589​	1071​	55​	4071​	237​	20​	63​	22.13%​	1.87%​	5.48%​
Philip Rivers	575​	1047​	54.9​	4133​	240​	23​	47​	22.92%​	2.20%​	4.23%​
Eli Manning	517​	1017​	50.8​	3540​	209​	30​	38​	20.55%​	2.95%​	3.55%​
Matthew Stafford	477​	901​	52.9​	3402​	210​	19​	51​	23.31%​	2.11%​	5.36%​

Remarkably similar numbers in terms of TD% (except Eli is on the lower side, as we'd expect. He's by far the worst QB on this list). Brady/Rodgers don't lose it. Peyton takes remarkably few sacks for how many plays he's had in the RZ (Sk/Att is pass attempts+rush attempts, FYI), but it's not reflected in throwaways, as his comp% is quite high in the sample.

Min. 50 attempts extremes.
Davis Mills leads the sample in terms of TD% (what?!?!) AND Sacks/Att

Player	Cmp	Att▼	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	TD%	Int%	Sk/Att
Davis Mills	34​	61​	55.7​	252​	20​	1​	10​	32.79%​	1.64%​	15.38%​

Guys that gave the ball away the most per toss...

Player	Cmp	Att▼	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	TD%	Int%	Sk/Att
Nick Mullens	31​	51​	60.8​	191​	14​	4​	3​	27.45%​	7.84%​	5.45%​
Quincy Carter	35​	80​	43.8​	269​	16​	6​	9​	20.00%​	7.50%​	8.82%​
Tyler Thigpen	25​	53​	47.2​	149​	13​	3​	1​	24.53%​	5.66%​	1.64%​
Sage Rosenfels	32​	54​	59.3​	208​	13​	3​	2​	24.07%​	5.56%​	3.23%​
Brady Quinn	20​	55​	36.4​	108​	8​	3​	2​	14.55%​	5.45%​	3.39%​
Jim Miller	48​	111​	43.2​	319​	17​	6​	5​	15.32%​	5.41%​	4.35%​
Charlie Frye	37​	75​	49.3​	279​	10​	4​	4​	13.33%​	5.33%​	4.40%​
Trent Dilfer	150​	301​	49.8​	1059​	57​	16​	27​	18.94%​	5.32%​	8.08%​
Tony Banks	84​	218​	38.5​	580​	36​	11​	18​	16.51%​	5.05%​	7.26%​
Chris Miller	37​	80​	46.3​	251​	19​	4​	2​	23.75%​	5.00%​	2.38%​

Super Bowl champion, and therefore godly QB, Trent Dilfer and milk (?) spokesman Brady Quinn feature nicely here.

Most accurate...

Player	Cmp	Att▼	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	TD%	Int%	Sk/Att
Tua Tagovailoa	81​	124​	65.3​	469​	38​	2​	7​	30.65%​	1.61%​	4.83%​

Least...

Player	Cmp	Att▼	Cmp%	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	TD%	Int%	Sk/Att
Craig Whelihan	14​	50​	28​	102​	4​	2​	4​	8.00%​	4.00%​	7.84%​
Kellen Clemens	23​	65​	35.4​	158​	8​	2​	7​	12.31%​	3.08%​	9.21%​
EJ Manuel	19​	53​	35.8​	133​	8​	1​	2​	15.09%​	1.89%​	2.74%​
Brady Quinn	20​	55​	36.4​	108​	8​	3​	2​	14.55%​	5.45%​	3.39%​
Todd Collins	22​	59​	37.3​	168​	5​	2​	4​	8.47%​	3.39%​	6.45%​
Tony Banks	84​	218​	38.5​	580​	36​	11​	18​	16.51%​	5.05%​	7.26%​
John Friesz	22​	56​	39.3​	159​	10​	1​	1​	17.86%​	1.79%​	1.72%​
Frank Reich	23​	58​	39.7​	202​	10​	1​	1​	17.24%​	1.72%​	1.69%​
Craig Erickson	23​	56​	41.1​	205​	10​	1​	2​	17.86%​	1.79%​	3.17%​
Danny Kanell	43​	100​	43​	287​	19​	2​	5​	19.00%​	2.00%​	4.90%​

 

[GKJ]

Sage Rosenfels, lmao. Remember when Steve Spurrier tried to make him a starter.

 

[Ben Grimm]

@Michael Farkas , what happened to not mentioning undrafted players?

I'm giving up on waiting but eventually there's going to a pick made that is either the best value ever in any HF ATD in any sport or the worst value ever. I can't say more.

 

[Michael Farkas]

@Michael Farkas , what happened to not mentioning undrafted players?

I'm giving up on waiting but eventually there's going to a pick made that is either the best value ever in any HF ATD in any sport or the worst value ever. I can't say more.

I don't like to, but there's one QB slot, and everyone has one (maybe one team doesn't?) and it's not like we haven't heard of all of these guys already and was Davis Mills on someone's list? haha I mean, I get it, but who is on any of these lists that it's remotely draftable and hasn't been taken yet?

 

[LT]

I don't like to, but there's one QB slot, and everyone has one (maybe one team doesn't?) and it's not like we haven't heard of all of these guys already and was Davis Mills on someone's list? haha I mean, I get it, but who is on any of these lists that it's remotely draftable and hasn't been taken yet?

I was planning to take EJ Manuel as a back-up QB

 

[Ben Grimm]

I don't like to, but there's one QB slot, and everyone has one (maybe one team doesn't?) and it's not like we haven't heard of all of these guys already and was Davis Mills on someone's list? ha-ha I mean, I get it, but who is on any of these lists that it's remotely draftable and hasn't been taken yet?

@Michael Farkas I thought there was a backup QB slot. You're correct and I was wrong. I apologize.

 

[VanIslander]

We have the Eli Manning test in our rules.

Any player worse than him should be fair game in mentions.

In the hockey ATDs for the last two decades on HfBoards undrafteds were nixed except for Wade Belak and another, more maligned Leafs dman whose name escapes me at the moment....