Roster Moves: Roster Thread Talk 2021: it never ends

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The fact that Ghost was hard to move is because the Flyers did a bang up job of tanking his value. That had nothing to do with Ghosts on-ice play more often than not.

They scratched him on multiple occasions when they shouldn't have and they misused him for the better part of the last 3 seasons.

This is why i'm not comfortable with the bolded excuse for why they had to pay such a steep price to move him. That was a self-inflicted wound that was festering for years.

Ya but there had to be alot of who knows what/ who's to blame behind the scenes.

Alot of those ill deserved scratches ended up being long stints and then we'd somehow get second hand info it was an injury.

Something was definitely afoot between him and the org
 
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And none of this means that any of them were interested in Ghost....even WITH incentive to take him.
Yeah no other teams would take a free 2nd and a serviceable player. Come on Fletch wanted Ghost off the team as fast as possible for questioning the shit job AV was doing. He got trigger happy and took the first deal that came along rather than maximizing his return or should I say minimizing his loss.
 
Yeah no other teams would take a free 2nd and a serviceable player. Come on Fletch wanted Ghost off the team as fast as possible for questioning the shit job AV was doing. He got trigger happy and took the first deal that came along rather than maximizing his return or should I say minimizing his loss.
As fast as possible?
He tried to move him last offseason with no takers
He tried to move him for free on waivers this year and there were no takers in season
He exposed him to Seattle and they said no.
And no team called Seattle and asked them to take him and they would trade for him

You are delusional if you think this was the 1st discussion with a team about Ghost.

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As fast as possible?
He tried to move him last offseason with no takers
Link plus he had 3 years left
He tried to move him for free on waivers this year and there were no takers in season
When very few teams had cap space
He exposed him to Seattle and they said no.
And no team called Seattle and asked them to take him and they would trade for him
I wouldn't use Seattle as a reference for anything considering they took Carson Twarynski and totally screwed up that draft.

You are delusional if you think this was the 1st discussion with a team about Ghost.

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I know you always have to include 2nd round picks with 40 point D men.:rolleyes:

Maybe the problem isn't the player but the person doing the negotiating.
 
I mean we gave up Ghost a 2nd and 7th for nothing. This is a player that had 9 goals last year with chaotic playing time and if he stays healthy this year will get his 40+ points. I can't see how his valued could have gone down any further.

Yandle is as good offensively and took a minimum wage deal, Gus is actually better offensively.
Maybe defense matters?
 
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If defense matters why the F!@#$%ng hell did we trade for Rasmus?

I will say it again Ghost will be traded for at minimum a 2nd within 1 year.
but even if he does it will be because he only has 1 year left in his deal. We never could've gotten that with his current contract and his current production. I love ghost but lets just move on lol.
 
I mean we gave up Ghost a 2nd and 7th for nothing. This is a player that had 9 goals last year with chaotic playing time and if he stays healthy this year will get his 40+ points. I can't see how his valued could have gone down any further.

That’s a heck of a guarantee considering he hasn’t hit 40 points since 17-18, and Arizona aren’t likely to be a good/high scoring team.
 
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A blind man can see the problem is with the player. Ghost has zero value and will be out of the league when his contract expires.

Doubt it. He’ll just be on a smaller contract. Maybe the Flyers new GM will bring him home for 23-24. Two years is a looong time in hockey.
 
but even if he does it will be because he only has 1 year left in his deal. We never could've gotten that with his current contract and his current production. I love ghost but lets just move on lol.
How can 1 less year mean the difference between adding a 2nd and getting a 2nd?
 
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That’s a heck of a guarantee considering he hasn’t hit 40 points since 17-18, and Arizona aren’t likely to be a good/high scoring team.
Using the 17-18 season is disingenuous as he was hurt for 2 years. He was tied for 6th in goals for defensemen last year in 41 games played. He was jerked around all over the lineup and press box and wasn't used on the PP properly until at the earliest 1/2 way through the season.

Even with all that he was on pace for 40 last year on the dumpster fire known as the Flyers. In AZ he will be relied on much more and if he stays healthy there's better than even odds he hits 40 points.
 
I’m not sure the top forward on Arizona will hit 40 points. They’re blatantly tanking. Ghost should help with that obviously.
Not saying he's on the same level but Chychrun got over 40 last year.
 
That’s a heck of a guarantee considering he hasn’t hit 40 points since 17-18, and Arizona aren’t likely to be a good/high scoring team.

I can definitely see 40 points for Ghost this season. Someone's gotta score there. With OEL gone it'll be on Ghost & Chychrun to generate points from the back end. He'll need to be on PP1 though for sure.
 
Ghost in 660 5x5 minutes had 9 points. 112 PP minutes, 9 points.
If you double that, he'd be playing 2nd pair minutes at ES (16:40 minutes at 5x5) and PP1 minutes (2:40).
So yeah, if you use him enough, he could get to 40 points in Arizona.
 
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