Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[Der Jaeger]

After moving Ekholm I doubt Fabbro is on the table.

And if he was, he'd cost quite a bit more than Olofsson. Olofsson isn't going to garner much of a return at this point. We'll either have to take a similar contract back or just take a mid round pick for him.

I'm not sure what Comtois adds to our top 9, but I haven't watched him much this year.

I don’t see Fabbro as that important right now. If they work this off-season, he could be available. Especially if Trotz is able to move some other pieces.

Comtois is a power forward reclamation project.

Comtois would be another Greenway

Aware, reclamation project. But he’s a power forward and the Sabres don’t have many.

 

[TommyDangles]

Aware, reclamation project. But he’s a power forward and the Sabres don’t have many.

I feel like we got too many reclamation projects on this team. I'd rather go for a guy with a decent track record.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I feel like we got too many reclamation projects on this team. I'd rather go for a guy with a decent track record.

Power forwards with a decent track record require huge trade packages. Better to get a reclamation project, or prior to their development upswing.

Comtois has talent.

 

[Snippit]

The day Adams learns that the present roster actually matters, is the day he can be called a good GM.

Those meaningful games in March he loved talking about, are not very meaningful right now since the team has quit and been exposed. Is it really some amazing developmental experience when the guys are just mailing it in and getting their asses kicked?

This is really the same story as how the 18-19 and 19-20 seasons ended. Yes, the way the big evil Eichel teams folded at the 60 game mark in those seasons, is exactly the same as how the happy, good vibes team of 22-23 is quitting right now. Players quit when they are demoralized. They get demoralized when the goalies are trash and the bottom 3 defenseman are AHL calibre.

Power forwards with a decent track record require huge trade packages. Better to get a reclamation project, or prior to their development upswing.

Comtois has talent.

Is it really though?

Reclamation projects are not always free like Jost. In my head, we have effectively pissed away a 2nd round pick on an awful player.

Isn't it better asset management to pay up for a piece that will actually contribute?

 

[Der Jaeger]

The day Adams learns that the present roster actually matters, is the day he can be called a good GM.

Those meaningful games in March he loved talking about, are not very meaningful right now since the team has quit and been exposed. Is it really some amazing developmental experience when the guys are just mailing it in and getting their asses kicked?

This is really the same story as how the 18-19 and 19-20 seasons ended. Yes, the way the big evil Eichel teams folded at the 60 game mark in those seasons, is exactly the same as how the happy, good vibes team of 22-23 is quitting right now. Players quit when they are demoralized. They get demoralized when the goalies are trash and the bottom 3 defenseman are AHL calibre.


Is it really though?

Reclamation projects are not always free like Jost. In my head, we have effectively pissed away a 2nd round pick on an awful player.

Isn't it better asset management to pay up for a piece that will actually contribute?

It’s way too early to make any judgements on Greenway.

Lesson of Shane Doan: you get a power forward before they develop so the cost is low. Doan only got good in his 5th season. Alex Tuch took a while. Power forwards take a while.

I’ll easily take a swing at Comtois for more of a bargain price. If he gets good, the Sabres won’t be able to afford him in a trade.

 

[sabremike]

It’s way too early to make any judgements on Greenway.

There are two traits that should be a huge red flag on a player to any organization:

1) Poor skating

2) Poor work ethic

There's a reason everyone who follows the Wild felt getting rid of him was smart: he is a terrible player who is never going to amount to anything other than a minor league journeyman.

 

[K8fool]

There are two traits that should be a huge red flag on a player to any organization:

1) Poor skating

2) Poor work ethic

There's a reason everyone who follows the Wild felt getting rid of him was smart: he is a terrible player who is never going to amount to anything other than a minor league journeyman.

injured.

 

[K8fool]

It’s way too early to make any judgements on Greenway.

Lesson of Shane Doan: you get a power forward before they develop so the cost is low. Doan only got good in his 5th season. Alex Tuch took a while. Power forwards take a while.

I’ll easily take a swing at Comtois for more of a bargain price. If he gets good, the Sabres won’t be able to afford him in a trade.

Unless Carolina added to win that cup... he's not adding some messier to dominate a room...They all step up and make a run at it . Or he will act against his blueprint to make up for lack of sack..

doubt it ..its all injuries that would land many a month off...

If We decide to suffer, win next two and get a Levi start before we lose another coffin nail game... I'm frickn interested , screw thr recent past

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

The best thing about Greenway is that he makes 3 mil and is 4th line fodder. Best case scenario he scores 10 goals next year and what, we got to give him 4 mil a year as he is an impending ufa after next season. Just a trash trade for a trash player. Like I said after the trade, it was a putrid Corkum type move.

 

[Sabre the Win]

There are two traits that should be a huge red flag on a player to any organization:

1) Poor skating

2) Poor work ethic

There's a reason everyone who follows the Wild felt getting rid of him was smart: he is a terrible player who is never going to amount to anything other than a minor league journeyman.

Well he has one more year left, it's not like we are stuck with him.

 

[Chainshot]

A few too many absolutes about a player who just arrived.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

They should just stick with they absolutely hate him. They absolutely believe KA can do nothing right. They absolutely believe the team will continue to cheap out etc etc etc

 

[Jim Bob]

You mean not being forced to sign garbage contracts to get to the floor…let alone overpay on short term rentals.

20 players gaining a year and
Anderson being replaced by a U21 player keeps the mean of those players stable or lower.

Pos	Name	Age		Pos	Name	Age
G	Anderson	41​		G	Luukkonen	25​
G	Comrie	27​		G	Comrie	28​
D	Bryson	25​		D	Bryson	26​
D	Dahlin	22​		D	Dahlin	23​
D	Jokiharju	23​		D	Jokiharju	24​
D	Lyubushkin	28​		D	Lyubushkin	29​
D	Power	20​		D	Power	21​
D	Samuelsson	23​		D	Samuelsson	24​
D	Clague	24​		D	Stillman	26​
F	Cozens	22​		F	Cozens	23​
F	Girgensons	29​		F	Jost	26​
F	Hinostroza	28​		F	Krebs	23​
F	Jost	25​		F	Mittelstadt	25​
F	Krebs	22​		F	Olofsson	28​
F	Mittelstadt	24​		F	Peterka	22​
F	Okposo	34​		F	Quinn	22​
F	Olofsson	27​		F	Skinner	31​
F	Peterka	21​		F	Thompson	26​
F	Quinn	21​		F	Tuch	27​
F	Skinner	30​		F	Greenway	27​
F	Thompson	25​		F
F	Tuch	26​		F
		25.77273​				25.3​

If those last two forward spots are filled with players that average 25yo or younger, the roster will be younger next season.

And there are player that the Sabres could add that make significant money that are not just garbage contracts. Adding Ekholm to be a top 4 D over the next few years would add a skill set the Sabres need, a veteran on the back end, and he would make meaningful money.

You also have some options in goal to be an improvement over UPL & Comrie and be a bridge while Levi learns the pro game in Rochester.

The Sabres do not have to spend the bare minimum next season. They can choose to be more proactive when it comes to improving the NHL roster.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Well seeing as Arizona was rather indignant on getting Kulich or Savoie in any Chychrun trade; that wouldn’t of been the case regardless.

Yeah, Chychrun was the only guy Buffalo could trade for to improve their D.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I'm talking Sabres leave Buffalo kind of stuff, because the season ticket base will crash to under a few 1000, and Key Bank will get even more embarrassing with away fans than it is.

This is Pegula's last chance, or he's losing this fan base forever, and will end up as the Art Modell of the Sabres.

Ever think Pegula doesn't care? Sabres could move to Hamilton anyway or look to build a rink within the 50 mile radius from the further point from Buffalo on the Ontario side that fits into the team's territorial rights. Depending on how the distance is calculated the FirstOntario Centre might fall into Sabres territory. A franchise in Hamilton-Burlington is worth so much more than Buffalo and if there is a legal way not to pay the Leafs, it's a home run.

 

[DapperCam]

I wonder what Swayman would cost via trade in the off-season? He’s too good to be a backup. Krebs and a 2024 first (top 10 protected)? Too much? Too little?

 

[Bendium]

I wonder what Swayman would cost via trade in the off-season? He’s too good to be a backup. Krebs and a 2024 first (top 10 protected)? Too much? Too little?

Why would Boston trade Swayman to their development team?

 

[DapperCam]

Why would Boston trade Swayman to their development team?

Rules about trading within the division don’t apply when the team you are trading to is not perceived as a threat.

Other reasons would be that Swayman is an RFA and will definitely only sign a bridge to take him to UFA because Ullmark is about to win the Vezina. He will never be the starter in Boston. Might as well get something of value for him.

 

[WiHockeyGuy]

The best thing about Greenway is that he makes 3 mil and is 4th line fodder. Best case scenario he scores 10 goals next year and what, we got to give him 4 mil a year as he is an impending ufa after next season. Just a trash trade for a trash player. Like I said after the trade, it was a putrid Corkum type move.

Corkum was a 26 year old with untapped upside when he was re-acquired?

 

[zenthusiast]

They’ve already paid for the guy, might as well see if an off-season of coaching and conditioning sparks something. If it doesn’t, just take the L and sell him off for spare parts

 

[Bendium]

Could hear a pin drop on this board. All the KA apologists have given up like their team?

 

[Gabrielor]

Could hear a pin drop on this board. All the KA apologists have given up like their team?

I still believe in the GM.

He hasn't added the necessary vets I wanted him to last offseason, but he does have a true chance to this offseason without any major damage.

My trust carries into at least the summer.

Ever think Pegula doesn't care? Sabres could move to Hamilton anyway or look to build a rink within the 50 mile radius from the further point from Buffalo on the Ontario side that fits into the team's territorial rights. Depending on how the distance is calculated the FirstOntario Centre might fall into Sabres territory. A franchise in Hamilton-Burlington is worth so much more than Buffalo and if there is a legal way not to pay the Leafs, it's a home run.

I think he cares. I don't think he's very smart about owning a sports franchise. I also think he has an ego.

Patience, once again, was probably the right answer this season. It's just maddening to watch the young guys have no vet support that impacts the game beyond Alex Tuch. That can't be the case next year.

 

[1point21Gigawatts]

Could hear a pin drop on this board. All the KA apologists have given up like their team?

Not at all. Just can't keep up with all the whiny hot takes.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

Could hear a pin drop on this board. All the KA apologists have given up like their team?

Where having a couple of vets are somehow going to make Tage start scoring goals again? Your best players need to play like your best players, and right now most of them seem MIA during this stretch. Sure adding a couple vets will help, but the bulk of this team has been inconsistent especially during the past 10 games.

I suppose KA should have known how they would do under pressure though right? He needed to have players that performed even better when they were fighting for the playoffs, instead of the mess we are getting right now. Then maybe they lose that Boston game 5 - 1 instead of 7 - 0 cause of the vets.

 

[Duddy]

Banking on rookies + Cozens to be your 2nd line, was a bad idea. They could've used some top 6 vets to help the young guys out. Same for a vet top 4 Dman.

This offseason will be crucial.