Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[start winnin]

Where does everyone think Bedard will be in the lineup. Do we start him as the third line center or do we throw him into the top 6 immediately?

Top 6 and put Cozens on the wing

 

[Chainshot]

Comrie is an awful goalie, 3rd stringer at best. He's getting paid millions he has no gripe.

After being hung out to dry by his teammates and coach tonight, he has every right to sound off on them.

 

[The Red Helmet]

How about the Sabres pull off the deal with the Flames that is proposed on the main board and trade for both Lindholm and Hanifin.

Skinner Thompson Tuch
FA/Trade Cozens Quinn
Mitts Lindholm Peterka
Jost Krebs Greenway

Samuelsson Dahlin
Power FA/Trade
Hanifin Joker/Lybushkin
Stillman

I think there would be a good chance we could re-sign Lindholm.

 

[TehDoak]

Where does everyone think Bedard will be in the lineup. Do we start him as the third line center or do we throw him into the top 6 immediately?

I'm not sure if this is optimistic or pessimistic?

 

[TehDoak]

He goes on stretches where he makes inexplicable decisions, but his skating and shot are well above average. Top pairing tools, and capable of playing top pairing minutes. With Brodin out recently, Dumba has been a big reason that MN has still been one of the best defensive teams in the league.
He is of average size, but is a bit of a physical freak. Can, and does hit, but I would argue that he, and most defenders, are better off angling and closing down players rather than going to the big hit, which is certainly in Dumba’s DNA. Is quite feisty, always one of the first to stick his glove in someone’s face. Decent middleweight fighter, but you really don’t want guys like that fighting much, as they are more valuable on the ice. Most of his injuries have come from fighting or body checks initiated by him.

I believe his offense is still there to a certain extent, but is merely not highlighted on a team that is extremely structured, and defensively oriented.

I think some team gives him 4 x5-6M. Protects themselves by not giving him full term. He should be a solid addition, in his unique, up and down way. If he will re-sign for something like 2x4M( all they can afford due to cap penalties)to stay in MN, then I think that they will keep him. That’s a lot of money to ask him to give up, though.

His mistakes can drive me crazy, but was just at a game for the first time in a long time, and both his skating and shot speed were definitely well above average. Some Dmen make less mistakes, but that’s partly because they don’t have the speed to get to the puck in the first place.

So, this is from a wild fan on Dumba. Him or Severson are fine by me for UFA. A guy to bolster the top 4 who has good defensive numbers. Spend the assets to find a two way C to help PK/faceoffs, use the UFA cash to improve the D/Goaltending

 

[TehDoak]

So a new offseason plan:

#1. Take on Myers dead contract in return for a 'cheap' Demko

To Vancouver: Comrie, Lybushkin, our 2nd round pick
To Buffalo: Myers, Demko

Myers is bought out immediately.

I guess I could be talked into UPL instead of Comrie if they wanted to go that in exchange for a lower draft pick.

#2. Flip Olofsson for Nico Sturm
#3. Sign Dumba to a 4 year, 6.5M per (overpayment for shorter term)
#4. Sign Clifton to a 3 year, 3M per deal
#5. Re-sign Girgensons
#6. Sign a 4 line PKing RW. I have Josh Leivo in here, but I'm open to a lot of options.
#7. Buyout Bryson (super cheap since he's under 26, 266k this year, 313k next year)
#8. No QO for Jost. Open to bringing back as a 13th F however.

Line up:

Skinner-Thompson-Tuch
Mittelstadt-Cozens-Quinn
Greenway-Krebs-Peterka
Girgensons-Sturm-Leivo

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Power-Dumba
Clifton-Joker
Stillman

Demko
UPL

 

[truthbluth]

Danny Briere, Chris Drury and Mike Grier are all NHL GMs. Jay McKee is an OHL coach. Teppo
Coached for a bit.

That team was lousy with leadership.

Not saying this Sabres team isn’t, but who is the future coach or GM on this team. Kyle is an easy guess because he’s such a veteran. Who else?

 

[stokes84]

I saw some tank chatter on twitter and I just about jumped out a window.

You do find out a lot about a team when things start getting away from you. The quit against both Boston and Dallas is troubling. Granato has done a really nice job with this group, but if they throw in the towel down the stretch, his job security should start to be a consideration.

 

[TommyDangles]

So a new offseason plan:

#1. Take on Myers dead contract in return for a 'cheap' Demko

To Vancouver: Comrie, Lybushkin, our 2nd round pick
To Buffalo: Myers, Demko

Myers is bought out immediately.

I guess I could be talked into UPL instead of Comrie if they wanted to go that in exchange for a lower draft pick.

#2. Flip Olofsson for Nico Sturm
#3. Sign Dumba to a 4 year, 6.5M per (overpayment for shorter term)
#4. Sign Clifton to a 3 year, 3M per deal
#5. Re-sign Girgensons
#6. Sign a 4 line PKing RW. I have Josh Leivo in here, but I'm open to a lot of options.
#7. Buyout Bryson (super cheap since he's under 26, 266k this year, 313k next year)
#8. No QO for Jost. Open to bringing back as a 13th F however.

Line up:

Skinner-Thompson-Tuch
Mittelstadt-Cozens-Quinn
Greenway-Krebs-Peterka
Girgensons-Sturm-Leivo

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Power-Dumba
Clifton-Joker
Stillman

Demko
UPL

That Dumba contract is rough for a guy that's been on a huge decline the last few years. That would be like our Chiarot contract.

I don't think Vancouver would move Demko just to get rid of the Myers contract. They'd likely want a 1st in any trade involving him.

 

[stokes84]

Danny Briere, Chris Drury and Mike Grier are all NHL GMs. Jay McKee is an OHL coach. Teppo
Coached for a bit.

That team was lousy with leadership.

Not saying this Sabres team isn’t, but who is the future coach or GM on this team. Kyle is an easy guess because he’s such a veteran. Who else?

Probably the guy that is on IR. It shows.

 

[Duddy]

Yeah, Nucks aren't giving Demko away.

 

[TehDoak]

That Dumba contract is rough for a guy that's been on a huge decline the last few years. That would be like our Chiarot contract.

I don't think Vancouver would move Demko just to get rid of the Myers contract. They'd likely want a 1st in any trade involving him.

It's going to cost them a 1st to burn Myers contract if they want to go that route.

They are above the cap already next year.

Even if they move JT Miller with zero salary coming back (likely impossible) would put them at 74M with 15 roster players.

Moving Myers (6M) and Demko (5M) while taking back under under 5M that is easy to buyout/bury. If you swap Bryson in, his buyout is crazy cheap. Add in a 2nd in a deep draft....it's not a terrible return. Buffalo is essentially sending cap space back to get Demko for a 2nd rather than a 1st.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

#6. Sign a 4 line PKing RW. I have Josh Leivo in here, but I'm open to a lot of options.

With Laf/Chytil/Miller all needing new deals and the potential they decide they want to keep Tank or Kane I wonder if Goodrow could be available. Contract is a bit long, but his hits low enough to not be an issue. He gives you almost everything you want in a bottom 6 winger.

 

[GellMann]

Danny Briere, Chris Drury and Mike Grier are all NHL GMs. Jay McKee is an OHL coach. Teppo
Coached for a bit.

That team was lousy with leadership.

Not saying this Sabres team isn’t, but who is the future coach or GM on this team. Kyle is an easy guess because he’s such a veteran. Who else?

This is such a goofy question, half our team is teenagers

 

[Beerz]

Did we get any youngsters available for Rochester? Maybe they can push for the playoffs

 

[truthbluth]

This is such a goofy question, half our team is teenagers

This is such a goofy response considering the 05-06 team was amongst the youngest in the league as well. Also, there is exactly one teenager on the Sabres. I’m not sure there is a lot of accountability in that locker room currently and somebody needs to step up. But Stokes is right that Tuch is probably the guy.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

 

[paulmm3]

Wonder how much of our problem with keeping goals out is defense (players and system) versus goaltending? My hypothesis is that most of the problem is with the players in front of the goalies and the system.

I grew up with Cornell season tickets and Cornell goalies always posted insane save percentages like .940-.950, often in hobey baker conversations...how do we keep recruiting all these awesome goalies to Cornell? Then none of them did much on a pro level and I realized the reason Cornell goalies always look great isn't so much the players but the system.

 

[GellMann]

This is such a goofy response considering the 05-06 team was amongst the youngest in the league as well. Also, there is exactly one teenager on the Sabres. I’m not sure there is a lot of accountability in that locker room currently and somebody needs to step up. But Stokes is right that Tuch is probably the guy.

Not one single Sabres fan in 2005 was pontificating on the qualities of Daniel Briere in the context of their translatability to the General Manager position 18 years into the future lol

 

[Zman5778]

I'm good with everything there but letting Zemgus go. He's that 4th liner that would thrive in the playoffs......all SC contenders would love to snag him.

 

[stokes84]

Out is easy. In is hard.

 

[Chainshot]

Wonder how much of our problem with keeping goals out is defense (players and system) versus goaltending? My hypothesis is that most of the problem is with the players in front of the goalies and the system.

I grew up with Cornell season tickets and Cornell goalies always posted insane save percentages like .940-.950, often in hobey baker conversations...how do we keep recruiting all these awesome goalies to Cornell? Then none of them did much on a pro level and I realized the reason Cornell goalies always look great isn't so much the players but the system.

They can’t fix the goalies simply by plugging in one player. The lax play by their skaters has got to end. Thompson and Cozens have been atrocious in this recent span in particular. Key personnel can’t be that lacking in fundamental play in their own zone and expect good results.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Another year of Comrie
Another year of Stillman
Another year of Bryson
Another year of VO

I wouldn't expect too many changes next year.

Adams gonna suck all he can out of this patience bullshit mantra.

We can sell them off at deadline next year

 

[Zman5778]

They can’t fix the goalies simply by plugging in one player. The lax play by their skaters has got to end. Thompson and Cozens have been atrocious in this recent span in particular. Key personnel can’t be that lacking in fundamental play in their own zone and expect good results.

I have maintained and will continue to maintain that the best thing that could happen to this team isn't any one on-ice addition or any series of on-ice addition.

As currently made up, the Sabres can absolutely make the playoffs this year, next year and beyond. What the Sabres need to do it commit to playing defense as a team.....specifically most of our top 9 forwards (ya know, the guys with the majority of ice time). Tweaking the on-ice personnel does nothing if we don't commit to playing defense as a team. And committing to playing defense as a team means that each individual needs to be committed to playing defense. Which right now? In this top 9? Woof.

Tage, Skinner, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka and Mitts all need to be better in their own ends (though Mitts is a hellacious backchecker). Tuch too, though he isn't as much as issue.

Too often in this little streak of theirs I'm noticing that the defensemen are mostly in good/solid position......but the forwards are absolutely clueless.

 

[sabremike]

They can’t fix the goalies simply by plugging in one player. The lax play by their skaters has got to end. Thompson and Cozens have been atrocious in this recent span in particular. Key personnel can’t be that lacking in fundamental play in their own zone and expect good results.

The entire team is lacking in fundamental play in their own zone. It's clearly an issue of the coach not feeling that is important which is why I keep becoming less supportive of the coach with each passing day. The longer bad habits are tolerated the harder it is to break them and there is nothing in all of hockey less valuable than one way players. Having an entire roster of one way players completely lost in their own end is a surefire way to lose lots of games.