Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[Chainshot]

Seven teams that could (and should) trade for Jakob Chychrun

Jakob Chychrun's cap hit and versatility are just some of what makes him valuable at the March 3 trade deadline.

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Buffalo Sabres ​

Speaking of Buffalo, how aggressive does this team get now that things are finally turning around for them? This team has to look at players who can help now and in the future, which Chychrun accomplishes. But where does he actually fit in the lineup? Mattias Samuelsson and Owen Power round out the left side of the top four. Would Chychrun slotting to the right bump Henri Jokiharju to the third pair? And what about the power play? Rasmus Dahlin is the rightful PP1 quarterback, with Power on the second. Ideally, Chychrun has some time on the advantage which then would require knocking a forward off PP2 and rolling with three forwards. Going for a Timo Meier-like option makes a lot more sense for Buffalo, but it wouldn’t be surprising to see them assess.

More Chychrun chatter from the Athletic. The other teams mentioned in the article in order -

LA
Edmonton
St. Louis
Ottawa
(Buffalo)
Florida
NY Islanders

 

[Dingo44]

Seven teams that could (and should) trade for Jakob Chychrun

Jakob Chychrun's cap hit and versatility are just some of what makes him valuable at the March 3 trade deadline.

theathletic.com

More Chychrun chatter from the Athletic. The other teams mentioned in the article in order -

LA
Edmonton
St. Louis
Ottawa
(Buffalo)
Florida
NY Islanders

Do you guys have me on ignore? I already posted both stories earlier in the thread.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

Should the Sabres trade for Timo Meier? Weighing the pros and cons of a potential deal

The Sabres have plenty of assets and cap space to acquire Timo Meier but would that interfere with their long-term plans?

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Rosen + Kulich + a 1st? Yikes. And we'd still have a glaring hole on D and 3 less premium assets left to acquire one. Everyone still on board if that's the price?

 

[Chainshot]

Do you guys have me on ignore? I already posted both stories earlier in the thread.

I thought I saw it, just wasn't sure where.

 

[Beerz]

I wonder how making a winger that has yet to play a single game for the team the highest paid guy on the 2023-24 roster would go over in the locker room?

I would also rather they spend trade assets on a D like Chychrun or Ekholm over a winger like Meier.

Everything I heard Meier is looking at an 8 to 8.5 deal... Skinner would be highest paid player..
Dahlin will get his money... so will Cozens. I don't think it would be an issue at all. ... Dahlin would be ecstatic.. so would Cozens. These guys want to win. What Meier brings will get us closer.

 

[Bendium]

Rosen + Kulich + a 1st? Yikes. And we'd still have a glaring hole on D and 3 less premium assets left to acquire one. Everyone still on board if that's the price?

With an 8x8 extention? Yeah, pull the trigger. Though I would try to swap Ostland for Kulich.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Which that can easily become ( albatross) in the last 2-3 years ( see Okposo)

okposo isnt an albatros

OEL is an albatross
Skinner at 25pnts a season was an albatross

okposo is a useful player on a deal that overpays him

 

[Beerz]

Rosen + Kulich + a 1st? Yikes. And we'd still have a glaring hole on D and 3 less premium assets left to acquire one. Everyone still on board if that's the price?

Yes

 

[TehDoak]

How does everyone feel about Blueger as as offseason target for a botton 6C/faceoff guy. Maybe Girgensons can help recruit a fellow Latvian?

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

With an 8x8 extention? Yeah, pull the trigger. Though I would try to swap Ostland for Kulich.

Or you could flip Oloffson 1st and add that asset ( plus maybe more) instead of Kulich if sharks don't want oloffson

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

With an 8x8 extention? Yeah, pull the trigger. Though I would try to swap Ostland for Kulich.

Yes

Interesting! I guess patience is out the door now that we are in 9th place.

Maybe we can acquire Robin Lehner for a first in the offseason. I mean the '24 first, because the '23 first has already been spent.

 

[Zman5778]

How does everyone feel about Blueger as as offseason target for a botton 6C/faceoff guy. Maybe Girgensons can help recruit a fellow Latvian?

As with anything, it'll depends on the price. I'd prefer to aim a little higher though, especially in the faceoff department -- he's just barely breaking even this year (140W, 134L) while taking not a lot of faceoffs.

 

[Beerz]

Interesting! I guess patience is out the door now that we are in 9th place.

Maybe we can acquire Robin Lehner for a first in the offseason. I mean the '24 first, because the '23 first has already been spent.

What exactly do you want to be patient for? You dream one of those prospects to be a Timo Meier.

I don't get it.

 

[Zman5778]

Rosen + Kulich + a 1st? Yikes. And we'd still have a glaring hole on D and 3 less premium assets left to acquire one. Everyone still on board if that's the price?

I don't see a "glaring" hole on defense right now. Sure, maybe we could upgrade Joker in the offseason, maybe. Maybe we spend a minor asset to upgrade Bryson.

But basically since Jan 1 (give or take), our defensemen haven't really been a consistent issue. Sure one will have a bad game here and there, but by and large......I see a playoff-worthy top 6 right now.

I certainly don't see a need to use a premium asset to acquire a defenseman right now.

 

[Zman5778]

Everything I heard Meier is looking at an 8 to 8.5 deal...

NHL trade board 2022-23: Bo Horvat is off the market, injuries pile up and more updates on top deadline targets

Here are the names generating the most buzz around the league, with analysis from Eric Duhatschek, Pierre LeBrun and Michael Russo.

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One last thought: If the qualifying offer is scaring teams, know that he won’t come much cheaper on an extension. I think the ask on a new contract starts with at least a nine.

LeBrun saying the new deal starts with a 9. And I have every reason to believe him.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

How does everyone feel about Blueger as as offseason target for a botton 6C/faceoff guy. Maybe Girgensons can help recruit a fellow Latvian?

I've been looking at him as well. PK is definitely an area of need and he's good there as well.

Reminder, I believe Girgs is also up after this year.

 

[Beerz]

NHL trade board 2022-23: Bo Horvat is off the market, injuries pile up and more updates on top deadline targets

Here are the names generating the most buzz around the league, with analysis from Eric Duhatschek, Pierre LeBrun and Michael Russo.

theathletic.com

LeBrun saying the new deal starts with a 9. And I have every reason to believe him.

I'm still ok with it.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

What exactly do you want to be patient for? You dream one of those prospects to be a Timo Meier.

I don't get it.

Because you could be giving up 3 Timo Meier's.

 

[Beerz]

Because you could be giving up 3 Timo Meier's.

Or 3 Casey Mittlestadts

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Or 3 Casey Mittlestadts

You're also preventing any upgrades in the future since he takes the rest of the cap until Skinner's contract is off the books. It makes sense to wait until the core players are done developing before you shoot you one big shot to fill a hole...so you are sure it's still a hole.

I have no problem trading for him -- I'd be pretty dang psyched -- I just don't think I'd do it if I was the GM.

 

[Jacob582]

I think Meier gets something closer to the DeBrincat or Fiala trade.

 

[Zman5778]

I'm still ok with it.

Dahlin @ 10
Meier @ 9
Skinner @ 9
Cozens @ 7-8
Tage @ 7.2
Tuch @ 4.5
Sammy @ 4.3

That's $52 million tied up in 7 guys....and that's BEFORE a Power extension. Gotta also figure that whoever our other top 4 defenseman is (Joker, Johnson, someone not yet here) will get at least in the 4-5-6 range.

So ostensibly, you're probably looking at 60-65 million tied up in 5 forwards and 4 defensemen. So that's leaving about 30 million to spend on 9 forwards, 3 D and 2 goalies.

Bridging Power, Quinn, Peterka and Krebs kind of kicks the can a little down the line.........but ooof.

It's a real hard sell for me to bring in a guy "off the streets" and throw ~9M per year at him, especially when we've got a whole bunch of big contracts coming.

I think this is a case of "We probably CAN, but SHOULD we?". And I don't know. It's a real close one for me.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

I don't see a "glaring" hole on defense right now. Sure, maybe we could upgrade Joker in the offseason, maybe. Maybe we spend a minor asset to upgrade Bryson.

But basically since Jan 1 (give or take), our defensemen haven't really been a consistent issue. Sure one will have a bad game here and there, but by and large......I see a playoff-worthy top 6 right now.

I certainly don't see a need to use a premium asset to acquire a defenseman right now.

Since Jan 1, we are giving up 3.5 goals per game. If that was the whole season, we'd rank 29th out of 32 teams. And that's the good part of the season. We're also bad on the PK. Not all of that is D, sure, but not sure how anyone can argue that we don't need better dmen, while also arguing we need help on the wings.

We are currently tied for the lead in goal scoring for the season.

 

[Bendium]

Interesting! I guess patience is out the door now that we are in 9th place.

Maybe we can acquire Robin Lehner for a first in the offseason. I mean the '24 first, because the '23 first has already been spent.

Where is patience thrown out the window? If your being patient, what is it for? Which prospect are you "sure" will be as good as Meier, and how long till they get there? Meier is at least the ceiling or better than any of our prospects currently have. It's a guaranteed known. Mier 26, Thompson 25, Tuch 26....WoW.

Our prospect pool 3-4 years minimum from making a real impact, but the new core we built is ready.

 

[Zman5778]

Since Jan 1, we are giving up 3.5 goals per game. If that was the whole season, we'd rank 29th out of 32 teams. And that's the good part of the season. We're also bad on the PK. Not all of that is D, sure, but not sure how anyone can argue that we don't need better dmen, while also arguing we need help on the wings.

We are currently tied for the lead in goal scoring for the season.

From where I sit, we don't need outside help to improve the defense. It's ALL on our forwards. If our forwards play better defense (and yes, you CAN play better defense while the offense doesn't suffer).......then EVERYTHING starts to look better.

It all starts with our forwards' ability to buy-in and actually play defense in front of and with our defensemen.