Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[Der Jaeger]

He's only playing around 14 minutes a night. How much could they possibly be asking?

Not a ton. I talked to Nashville fans and they thought Olofsson with 50% retained and Fitzgerald for Fabbro and Jankowski was fair. And that was before Olofsson started scoring again.

A 2nd would probably do it.

 

[Chainshot]

Need to tweak the team now. Trade or waive Bryson/Comrie. Hinostroza for Jack Johnson. Vegas 2nd + Biro for Luke Schenn. That's enough to shake up the team and stabilize the defense.

Jack Johnson?

Wait... seriously? He is measurably terrible at hockey. Woof.

The waiver thing remains foolhardy.

Schenn? Sure though sending Biro off probably is the capper on the Amerks season since they don't have any other centers.

 

[Jim Bob]

Not a ton. I talked to Nashville fans and they thought Olofsson with 50% retained and Fitzgerald for Fabbro and Jankowski was fair. And that was before Olofsson started scoring again.

A 2nd would probably do it.

A 3rd pairing D that they might not even give a QO to after the season should cost less than a 2nd.

 

[Der Jaeger]

A 3rd pairing D that they might not even give a QO to after the season should cost less than a 2nd.

The outside-looking-in view shows that he's a 3rd pairing D. I don't think he's a 3rd paring D. Neither to many of the Preds fans. Fabbro was with Josi last and played well. Hynes hasn't played him there since.

Some Preds fans think Hynes and Poille are looking specifically for bigger and more physical players. Fabbro is very good defensively but isn't going to pound forwards into the ice.

I think it's a case of buying low.

 

[Jim Bob]

The outside-looking-in view shows that he's a 3rd pairing D. I don't think he's a 3rd paring D. Neither to many of the Preds fans. Fabbro was with Josi last and played well. Hynes hasn't played him there since.

Some Preds fans think Hynes and Poille are looking specifically for bigger and more physical players. Fabbro is very good defensively but isn't going to pound forwards into the ice.

I think it's a case of buying low.

I do not see a 2nd round pick for him is buying low.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Sorry but when did Edward Murphy say “half?”

Wasn’t it Bernie Mack who said that, in Bad Santa?

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Sorry but when did Edward Murphy say “half?”

Wasn’t it Bernie Mack who said that, in Bad Santa?

During his stand-up in the early 80s when talking about getting a non-English speaking African wife to avoid losing money in a divorce

 

[BFLO]

He's a bottom-line forward who doesn't bring any physicality at all and worse avoids physicality at times. It'd take a team with a specific need for speed to be interested.

Plus, Adams is working WITH Hino. This could very much be a case of he'd rather sit in Buffalo and not play than be shipped off to a team like Seattle (as an example). He's got a couple of young children that he's said he wants to be close to, which is why he chose to re-sign here.

Adams is doing right by Hino.......and that stuff matters in the long run as regards free agents and guys waiving NTCs to come here.

*We hope

I'd argue that the perception on what happened with Eichel has done more harm by an order of magnitude than any good will the "treat our vet journeymen with respect on where they want to get traded" has gained.

 

[Zman5778]

Need to tweak the team now. Trade or waive Bryson/Comrie. Hinostroza for Jack Johnson. Vegas 2nd + Biro for Luke Schenn. That's enough to shake up the team and stabilize the defense.

Jack Johnson? Stabilize the defense? Huh? HOW? Dude is very, very notable bad at defense.

Even if we add Schenn -- the defense is not stabilizing until we get buy-in from the forwards. We could have a 6-pack of Dahlins and Powers on defense and it wouldn't be stable until the forwards buy-in.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

During his stand-up in the early 80s when talking about getting a non-English speaking African wife to avoid losing money in a divorce

Ok thanks, now I’m vaguely remembering. I tried re-watching those stand up specials as an adult and couldn’t make it very far.

Humor doesn’t tend to stand the rest of time, does it…at least relative to other art forms.

 

[Beerz]

Ok thanks, now I’m vaguely remembering. I tried re-watching those stand up specials as an adult and couldn’t make it very far.

Humor doesn’t tend to stand the rest of time, does it…at least relative to other art forms.

Bollocks! Eddie Murphy is still the funniest mf'er of all time.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

Ok thanks, now I’m vaguely remembering. I tried re-watching those stand up specials as an adult and couldn’t make it very far.

Humor doesn’t tend to stand the rest of time, does it…at least relative to other art forms.

I think it's very dependent upon the comedian. Someone like Sam Kinison or Andrew Dice Clay don't hold up at all in my view. However George Carlin absolutely does.

 

[zenthusiast]

I think it's very dependent upon the comedian. Someone like Sam Kinison or Andrew Dice Clay don't hold up at all in my view. However George Carlin absolutely does.

Kinison rules

His bit part in back to school too

 

[Beerz]

Kinison rules

His bit part in back to school too

Best laugh ever as well

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

He's a bottom-line forward who doesn't bring any physicality at all and worse avoids physicality at times. It'd take a team with a specific need for speed to be interested.

Plus, Adams is working WITH Hino. This could very much be a case of he'd rather sit in Buffalo and not play than be shipped off to a team like Seattle (as an example). He's got a couple of young children that he's said he wants to be close to, which is why he chose to re-sign here.

Adams is doing right by Hino.......and that stuff matters in the long run as regards free agents and guys waiving NTCs to come here.

No offense to Hino but a player of his caliber doesn't get to pick and choose where he goes...

I have no problem with Adams trying to meet Hino's needs but he isn't a player in huge demand... Chances of trying to find a team that wants him and that plays in a city close to his family is slim.

If you can find a match that meets his demands, perfect! but if a team out west gives you the best deal for him, you take it.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Bollocks! Eddie Murphy is still the funniest mf'er of all time.

He may still be funny, but his old material and standup specials aren't funny anymore. Happens to all of the funniest people. No one is pulling out old Lenny Bruce albums these days either.

I think it's very dependent upon the comedian. Someone like Sam Kinison or Andrew Dice Clay don't hold up at all in my view. However George Carlin absolutely does.

Most George Carlin jokes from his latter period won't make sense in ten more years, just like the jokes from his earlier periods mostly aren't funny now.

 

[Chainshot]

He may still be funny, but his old material and standup specials aren't funny anymore. Happens to all of the funniest people. No one is pulling out old Lenny Bruce albums these days either.


Most George Carlin jokes from his latter period won't make sense in ten more years, just like the jokes from his earlier periods mostly aren't funny now.

More a play on what his sketch at that time - that no one is worth half of what one has - and the commentary on trade values right now where everyone and everything is compared to Chairot or Hagel. It may have been a sub reference too far.

 

[elchud]

Jack Johnson is fine for 16-17 mins a night, in Dzone minutes, not 20 a nite Chicago is over playing him. Bryson and Comrie are sub replacement and signed into next season. Biro doesn't have a spot on the Sabres this season and loses waiver eligibility. Rochester has a roster that is more poorly constructed than the Sabres roster so at this point losing a center is whatever.

 

[Zman5778]

Jack Johnson is fine for 16 or 17 mins a night, Chicago is over playing him. Bryson and Comrie are sub replacement and signed into next season. Biro doesn't have a spot on the Sabres this season and loses waiver eligibility. Rochester has a roster that is more poorly constructed than the Sabres roster so at this point losing a center is whatever.

Jack Johnson is absolutely NOT fine for 16 or 17 min a night. Not on a team that has any sort of playoff aspirations at all. I mean, sure he's fine as a 3rd pairing guy on a team in the Bedard Sweepstakes.....but I'm pretty sure that Bryson is a better defenseman than Jack Johnson.

You're right that Biro doesn't have a spot on the Sabres this season -- but he's CRITICAL to Rochester this year. You even admit that Rochester is poorly constructed.....so don't tinker with their (currently) weakest position. Certainly not to downgrade from Bryson to Jack Johnson.

 

[Chainshot]

Jack Johnson is fine for 15 mins a night, in Dzone minutes, not 20 a nite Chicago is over playing him. Bryson and Comrie are sub replacement and signed into next season. Biro doesn't have a spot on the Sabres this season and loses waiver eligibility. Rochester has a roster that is more poorly constructed than the Sabres roster so at this point losing a center is whatever.

Johnson is a defensive crater only outdone by his ability to do less offensively. That isn't new to Chicago, that's been his history - Pittsburgh, NY, Colorado... doesn't matter. He's not a strong defensive player at all.

As for Biro, it's probably easier to fix the Amerks by finding an AHL contract center than it is to fix the Sabres. They ought to try. Dealing him doesn't help this year.

 

[Zman5778]

Johnson is a defensive crater only outdone by his ability to do less offensively. That isn't new to Chicago, that's been his history - Pittsburgh, NY, Colorado... doesn't matter. He's not a strong defensive player at all.

It astounds me that he's gotten 2 one-way deals the last 2 years.

 

[elchud]

Johnson is better than Bryson, he blocks shots, he is physical, and played better than most of our Dmen last nite. Would like some veterans in the group, bragging about the youngest D corp in the league and here we are. If you don't think Johnson is worth a 7th, which is Vinnies value, that's fine.

 

[Chainshot]

Johnson is better than Bryson, he blocks shots, he is physical, and played better than most of our Dmen last nite. Would like some veterans in the group, bragging about the youngest D corp in the league and here we are. If you don't think Johnson is worth a 7th, which is Vinnies value, that's fine.

Schenn shifts the needle on the blueline. He has a record of being good as a defensive cover for others while doing all of that. There isn't a need to take something back for Hinostroza, just finding him a place to go and honestly, if it's for future considerations or a very late draft pick, fine. He did his job in Buffalo and doing right by a guy who is well-liked in the room isn't a bad thing.

Johnson though is bad but in a different package than what they have now. One could argue that Fitz is a better player based on some of the fancy stats out there.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Beerz]

He may still be funny, but his old material and standup specials aren't funny anymore. Happens to all of the funniest people. No one is pulling out old Lenny Bruce albums these days either.


Most George Carlin jokes from his latter period won't make sense in ten more years, just like the jokes from his earlier periods mostly aren't funny now.

This is hate speech.

Everyone knew it was coming.