Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[Ace]

For the first time in a while I think I’m content just sitting back and watching them continue to develop. Granato has done some amazing things in player development. No need to mess with anything right now.

Another D has to be added eventually. You can actually let the team develop and improve the spot that has needed attention and will continue to need attention and doesn’t have a viable in house option on the way.

there is no rule against it, believe it or not.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

For the first time in a while I think I’m content just sitting back and watching them continue to develop. Granato has done some amazing things in player development. No need to mess with anything right now.

I would tend to agree, but Ekholm has 4 years left and fills a pretty big hole in the longer term, so he's an exception for me. And he won't be nearly as expensive as someone like Chychrun or Meier.

If we get Ekholm on this team, you're done worrying about defense for 4 years. Especially if you're able to keep Joki too.

 

[Perry Tegula]

What do you like about Fabbro? Preds fans seem to complain about him a lot so I'm surprised to see all the interest.

IIRC they liked him a lot last season as a stay-at-home paired with Josi.

Was teammates/wore letters in junior with Jost – same age, 1st round pedigree, maybe needs that same change of scenery.

 

[zenthusiast]

For the first time in a while I think I’m content just sitting back and watching them continue to develop. Granato has done some amazing things in player development. No need to mess with anything right now.

Agree that there’s no need to meddle too much, but swapping out a good NHLer for Bryson etc would be an unambiguous upgrade

 

[Uberpecker]

That's quite a take. Asplund is a black hole offensively... Hino gets hot sometimes but usually is a blackhole as well

Asplund's offense is fine for a defense-first third liner. And only a few games ago we were complaining about Mitts in similar ways like you are now about Hino.

Again, I'm not saying those two aren't downgrades to Mitts.

But it's not an adventurous take to believe that either or both of them can be productive contributors on a functioning third line, since only a few months ago they actually were.

What do you like about Fabbro? Preds fans seem to complain about him a lot so I'm surprised to see all the interest.

Young mobile high IQ top-4 RHD who can be the stay at home member of his pairing.

Preds fans also seem to think that he was pretty good last year, while being mostly hindered by incoherent coaching decisions this season, mainly the lack of a clearly defined role.

Imagine him coached by Granato and playing with one of our high-octane young dmen and I think you have a likely candidate for a bounce back/break out season on your hands.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

All 12 players on our forward lines are 1st round picks except for Olofsson.

And 4 of our top 6 defensemen are also 1st rounders. So if everyone is healthy, you're looking at only 3 skaters on the entire team that aren't 1st round picks.

Pretty crazy stuff.

 

[Zman5778]

For the first time in a while I think I’m content just sitting back and watching them continue to develop. Granato has done some amazing things in player development. No need to mess with anything right now.

I tend to agree with you here. If a reasonable deal for a guy like Ekholm can be struck -- go ahead and do it. Otherwise, let's stand pat and re-address things closer to the TDL.

 

[Zman5778]

All 12 players on our forward lines are 1st round picks except for Olofsson.

And 4 of our top 6 defensemen are also 1st rounders. So if everyone is healthy, you're looking at only 3 skaters on the entire team that aren't 1st round picks.

Pretty crazy stuff.

That's..............kind of amazing if you think about it. There's a megaton of talent here.

 

[Dingo44]

All 12 players on our forward lines are 1st round picks except for Olofsson.

And 4 of our top 6 defensemen are also 1st rounders. So if everyone is healthy, you're looking at only 3 skaters on the entire team that aren't 1st round picks.

Pretty crazy stuff.

You're almost close to right and it's an amazing stat but JJ Peterka somehow made it to the second round.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

You're almost close to right and it's an amazing stat but JJ Peterka somehow made it to the second round.

Ahh, I always forget that and probably will continue to. He's a 1st in our hearts.

 

[Dingo44]

Ahh, I always forget that and probably will continue to. He's a 1st in our hearts

Getting Quinn in the first round and JJ in the second is pretty incredible. Not sure it's as good as Dahlin in the first and Samuelsson in the second, but close.

 

[Der Jaeger]

So.....

Buffalo's unprotected 2023 1st and Bloom for Ekholm?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Getting Quinn in the first round and JJ in the second is pretty incredible. Not sure it's as good as Dahlin in the first and Samuelsson in the second, but close.

Samuelsson was chosen 32nd overall, that's a first round pick (locking this thread so no one can respond).

 

[Uberpecker]

All 12 players on our forward lines are 1st round picks except for Olofsson.

And 4 of our top 6 defensemen are also 1st rounders. So if everyone is healthy, you're looking at only 3 skaters on the entire team that aren't 1st round picks.

Pretty crazy stuff.

Who's the 4th one? I count Dahlin, Power, Joki.

Samuelsson was technically a 2nd rounder albeit the highest possible one (32nd).

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

So.....

Buffalo's unprotected 2023 1st and Bloom for Ekholm?

Anyone who says no to that will eventually come around after a few night's sleep. It makes too much sense.

And at $6.5M or whatever his AAV is, they're also limited in trade partners which makes me think this is a realistic return too.

Who's the 4th one? I count Dahlin, Power, Joki.

Samuelsson was technically a 2nd rounder albeit the highest possible one (32nd)

Samuelsson was chosen 32nd overall, that's a first round pick (locking this thread so no one can respond).

 

[Chainshot]

So.....

Buffalo's unprotected 2023 1st and Bloom for Ekholm?

Ouch.

I would do that.

 

[madpooh]

90% of vet players who have a NTC, Buffalo is on the list. Not saying you "might" get one or two to waive it though with the direction of things. That might be one allure of Chychrun.


If @Chainshot @Zman5778 have no objections ?

I would think he might not object as Philly hasn't been great. Buffalo has a chance of Playoffs and he has a chance of playing, while sitting for Philly

 

[thewookie1]

Ekholm is way too old to trade an unprotected 1st for.

 

[Zman5778]

So.....

Buffalo's unprotected 2023 1st and Bloom for Ekholm?

No way. Ekholm isn't worth de-protecting our 2023 1st for, much less adding a bit of a unicorn in Bloom (As far as our own prospect pool goes). I'd be willing to add something for protecting our 1st if we end up in the lottery though.

Lotto protected 2023 1st, flips to unprotected 2024 1st
Nadeau
VGK 2nd if they don't get our 1st in 2023

 

[The Blunder Years]

Not like the team desperately needs confidence right now, but a potential trade of futures to acquire another roster player would only breath more confidence into this roster.

Also you need to lottery protect our first if trading It. Even if we barely miss the playoffs for whatever reason I want every tiny chance to draft in the top 3. The talent available there is far above most other draft years.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Ouch.

I would do that.

My thoughts exactly.

Ekholm is way too old to trade an unprotected 1st for.

No way. Ekholm isn't worth de-protecting our 2023 1st for, much less adding a bit of a unicorn in Bloom (As far as our own prospect pool goes). I'd be willing to add something for protecting our 1st if we end up in the lottery though.

Lotto protected 2023 1st, flips to unprotected 2024 1st
Nadeau
VGK 2nd if they don't get our 1st in 2023

Ekholm is 32. We'd have him until 35-36 years old. His game hasn't fallen off, and he'd be a great partner to help Power continue to develop. And take the load off Samuelsson. Well worth it.

What you suggest doesn't really hurt from a Buffalo perspective. If it doesn't sting a little it's probably not fair.

 

[BUCKSHOT]

He absolutely is not considered that anymore.

He's a middle six forward who hasn't show the durability or consistency to be a roster player on most teams in the league. He's undoubtedly skilled. I'm not sure he is claimed if put on waivers. He's having his best year ever....on a high scoring team...and he might put up 50 points? Making 2.5M a season? In a cap world, that's not bad production, but not great either.

not sure if he gets claimed ?

atleast half the league claims him every day of the week and twice on Sunday

 

[Bendium]

I would tend to agree, but Ekholm has 4 years left and fills a pretty big hole in the longer term, so he's an exception for me. And he won't be nearly as expensive as someone like Chychrun or Meier.

If we get Ekholm on this team, you're done worrying about defense for 4 years. Especially if you're able to keep Joki too.

4 years gives you time to draft this year and "maybe" have a replacement or two ready on an ELC when you're about to pay Power on his first big contract after his bridge. seems reasonable.

 

[TehDoak]

not sure if he gets claimed ?

atleast half the league claims him every day of the week and twice on Sunday

Vrana just passed through waivers and is much more proven.

Only 11 teams have the cap space to claim him outright without using LTIR

He has a career high of 25 points and 12 goals and he's year D+6. A team would have to have a pretty specific need and plenty of cap space for a project player IMHO.

 

[Zman5778]