Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

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Tampa did need a line of Barclay Goodrow to win the cup. ;) But seriously, if Tampa still had Coleman/Gourde/Goodrow last season, that series likely goes 7 games, and there is a good chance the Lightning win. Having that line to throw out against the avalanche's top 6 would have made Colorado's life much more difficult.

As to your actual point, I somewhat agree, but I believe coaching plays a huge part in the required roster make-up to see playoff success.

For a team like Pittsburgh(15,16) who had their entire roster buying in to Sullivan's defensively smothering system in their cup runs, having a defensively dominant line was no where near as necessary as it has been for other cup winning teams. (The 2009 Pens were loaded with defensive forwards, and I don't think they win with Bylsma's system without them).

For Buffalo, if Granato is the coach that is leading this team during their window, having a defensively dominant line with a physical presence would make match-ups a whole lot easier.

As the team is currently built, they out hustle opponents in a lot of games, but the top 9 are not very disciplined. The 4th line is more disciplined, but not overly physical and not very dangerous. If this team had a third line that could chip in timely goals, while nullifying other teams top lines, this team would be a lock to make the playoffs and likely be the favorite in a series or two, imo.
I don’t think the Sabres a very far away from having the defensive match up line. Asplund and Jost would make 2/3 of a really good defensive matchup line, depending on who you put with them, or acquired to go with them.
 
Does Ruotsalainen still hold value?

I thought this guy was suppose to be something?
 
Does Ruotsalainen still hold value?

I thought this guy was suppose to be something?
If memory serves, he was looking to be on the big club by now so didn't want to ride busses anymore and went back home to Finland. He turned into a pretty good AHL player nonetheless.
 
Does Ruotsalainen still hold value?

I thought this guy was suppose to be something?

If memory serves, he was looking to be on the big club by now so didn't want to ride busses anymore and went back home to Finland. He turned into a pretty good AHL player nonetheless.

He plays for the Swiss league team in Kloten (David Reinbacher's club team) and they still have his rights. Olofsson analog is sound - smallish shooter type but there is probably more contact to his game than Vic though he's not got a separation gear. His season probably ends by the end of March, I'm curious if he's JF Sauve'd back to Rochester for some late season reinforcements.
 
If memory serves, he was looking to be on the big club by now so didn't want to ride busses anymore and went back home to Finland. He turned into a pretty good AHL player nonetheless.
Thats sort of true. He was told in his Amerks exit interview by Peca to work on his faceoffs and PKing. They saw his NHL opportunity as a 4th line checking center. He didn’t like that idea, so moved on. If he chose to push for that though, he had a chance to make it. He could have been Jost before Jost.
 
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I could see trading for a foligno in his prime or a younger maroon that can't be moved off the puck than giving away a good player in our pipeline for a top 4 d that is mostly filled when healthy. It would move power to kill it on third pair acquiring chychrun but how is it worth a big contract , Worth giving up two firsts? I don't think so.

I'd Rather have another Samuelson for less that might free up responsibility of a Bryson or power and elevate what we have and keep our talent.
I have no issues trading talent to support our group w a guarantee ( helleybuck , Carey price type) I'll trade two firsts for Sidney Crosby for three years etc but aside from those why add cap when our team hasn't shown it's peak.
Let's see if THIS GROUP can win 8 out of ten and have people begging us to be part of IT.
Have a first line and two or three second line talented groups (in elc learning our system without Savior ego) feasting and wearing down good teams w cap structure less thought out than ours creating our own chychurun by freeing up power.

I relieved my self over to comments , I will edit later as many a moron has promised , I was trying to show how much ka and Donny know the intruqicues of hockey , between then they kniw personalities and like skinner teaching and feeling up Thompson who also sees the game slow down thru skinner, he calmly sees the spaces that open in the flow. Tuch has stayed interested and his speed and strength forces teams not to cheat . Kulich in a year may be our other more physical presence I ramble more saying mitts has the mitts just isn't thinking and reacting fast and his shot looks like oloffson when he was injured. I trust Donny and can't wait to see mitts and goaloffson get on trach w or without each other and Donny will have playoff team if mitts can muscle thru and drive play w tough assignments

I must Add , I am making decisions w the mindset of making the playoffs THIS YEAR

Donny ( intimate knowledge of team under duress ) seeing first hand the the team each at their worst. And he saw consequences of Jason Botts BETRAYAL that led to bottoming under Ralph leading recovering Donny getting his dream to Coach nhl prove quite eloquently daily , why he may just create a team from Clay and if they reach their potential as. Group prove hes also great tactician , hockey genius w the watchful eye of family and former head coaches to critique and see thru their eyes , to finally destroy the Tampa s and bruins now that they're healthy and will have swagger from the start until the 3rd horn. ? One aspect very unpopular here is how much the adversity has helped shape KA ( Before and after botteril) and Donny before and after Krueger . So much intimate knowledge of the buffalo sabres and the prospects than many coaches and GM's are privy to , first hand w two unique perspectives along w Kim and Terry Pegula about EVERY aspect of each player ( rare glimpses) and the org of real support of the opposite .



I'll be quick as We know much this .and why this way different than any other moment as I know nothing and will only fund out based on KA moves.
.... since eichel drafted until the moment many on the boards are similarly calling for trade to support or lose our kids after the streak and hit start we have never understood why Berglund quit besides his statement , over exaggerated but clearly not explained , to the team was the lack of replacement and leaning on Hutton who helped pad goal scorers contracts as he was figured out and could not adjust becoming a team killing liability.
Next the reveal of cliques of dissent w passive aggressive behavior ( revealed before demise bylsma go do the fandango) , sewing circle, tandum biker gang and agreed upon by TeamIAm of fans board members and snarky puppy press LED by millionaire late night ' elite' hen peckers of the Jeichel , Reinhart group )
I also agreed at the Time MGMT abandoned a good start and only assistants clearly saw first hand ( both with full knowledge in the background ) after starting well and losing Berglund and actually playing Hutton w a straight face by botteril did not try fix in December and January using assets to fill the Berglund/ Ror defensive shutdown role.
He ( botts) lost the room to the sewing circle again , and his job. Eichel most likely remained in the ear of both Adams and Donny as assistants , as a pegula go between which may have later led to tough questions and tough decisions that looking back were needed as both lost faith in each other . The culmination was at locker clean out and the round table meetings which led to ' who wants to be here' w a very detailed KA philosophy ( Donny too? ) shaped over years of watching this team w experience decided to let those hang themselves.

Looking back , and threads like what's Adams gonna do . He clearly Saw the roster and maybe knew Donny agreed w him and HE MUST HAVE BELIEVED IN the talent on the team and in the draft w the same bills theory of addition by subtraction w character the decider considering all the talent we sold at PEAK value and not tank w the Bills.



, The risk alienating the fan base to death after ( house, Bismillah, Krueger); took some balls to stick to their boards of buffalo and roc and not rush anyone was impressive .

To get to here and have everyone onboard from dahlin, Thompson and Samuelson . They are all friends w eichel and ullmark, which means or implies means KA did everything in the open and simply stated his goals and whoever is here agreed and ullmark was given enough latitude to see if he could be a part and his choice simply galvanized who was here and Anderson agreed w Adams as his failsafe.. One of the key guys) coaches Adams and Donny know he speaks all and they just always agree and learn from him as well.

Even now decisions make themselves. Will KA ? Even Yost wasn't a surprise if Donny and KA believed he has room to be his better self.. I'll always be interested to see what grizzled vet on a high salary they would take and like chychrun , I see too many red flags unless az eats salary and they both know his character ,any big add must be perfect to mess w a team that has resiliency and character as Donny is completely trusted to even protect them from KA and mgmt.

I'm happy how it turns out and always thought O'Reilly and his douche brother helped create a shtty old shaming hockey culture that destroys more diamonds than it creates . that nobody on our current LINE 1 could ever flourish on. Any of past coaches as they are all trauma and misfits more than gung ho army cutouts. Weird Right?

The entitlement of Star players will be destroyed if Donny succeeds .

His attitude of embracing the real person Instead of assembling talents and letting them work it out is too much of a gamble w personalities Even two on bills right now may or may not impact home field as family is messy. Can team and cIty and desire for championship override a personal falling out , maybe it not only should but everything personal should be used w a smile against opponents as field or ice is a different world w rules that only stegthen you if yr true to them . Also another argument against singular entitlement in anti team

It only lasts a couple years and I don't believe continues like situational strangeness, the weird anti Kane , that still follows , we'll never know what side of the Trac suite we'd agree w in Wina Peg nottacup, that Murray took a shot to change our fate quickly or sabotage throwing in a former superstar goalie in lehner( w two kilos of boy and girl , better living thru chemistry and the polar opposite no fun Karen hockey of Dudley do Right Gionta ( what could go wrong) competing destinys Add a Young Kane knocking on lehners door after searching his carpet w the kids) would've been fun if we had real D and Kessel teaching then how to play sixty each night on McDonald's and no sleep.

Is that team easier to win against or our team if equally focused.. different shared experience or trauma can make or break a team . I'll take ours and no idea if Murray wasn't feeling like la la Fontaine as he left





I'm rambling apologies, should delete id can't read it , has a point to understand and compliment KA ,Donny along a timeline that goes back a few years before hired in a position of power .
I'm amazed at how this Bs and kreuger truly helped us as an organization to each player and Coach became self aware and simply decided what was most important
It forced a decision from all.

.and prioritized and created a team around it that agreed all the way to the formerly tool O'Reilly poisoned Rochester removing a talented but off message coach. Whatever is was that the team, KA ( always bring a towel) and Donny targeted and implemented and is selling still today, has created their unified dream of 70s Sabres , Goat O7;and Russian 5 w a largest helping of nobody plays unless each has the other's backs w no more stars or saviors or hierarchy which immediately did exorcise the demons , lucic miller to briere Drury and tank eichel by never booing as hockey as we've always had returned honestly w Donny and KA.

Bravo " nothing left but a broom and and a mop and an illustrated book about birds*
{ An aside , weird victory by St Louis gm to hide the fact of practice players hitting corners and roofing it both out of reach of , Huttin of the Shire in need the ability that Hasek overcame but he couldn't . These moves made me agree w Eichelbrat at time as not replacing Berglund and trusting his group signalled tank and taught Donny a lesson that will protect us as Long as he's here and we reap the rewards of Donny connections, personal relationships and street personality info to agree and disagree w Jason botteril talent evaluation that by sitting in the background like many former players on the boards BUT unlike everyone else had more intimate details about every player on the team or in the pipeline to see many obviyis answers to eliminate fleecing of the desperate Jason but MAINLY AND OBVIOUSLY talked to and envisioned the true gifts of Skinner and the emotional keys to unlock him and be thrilled He is the centaur, centerpiece of the Friggin rebuild. GLORIOUSLY saw Tage bad name awkward giraffe Thompson Krist superstar needed love and no competition and trust w Room at center to unleash the most unlikely REVEAL ( HE is secretly the love child ( in an AC DC bang w a gang) of Mario lemieux , awkward step brother of Pavel Datsuk ,and the shot of Rico ) His range to improve and apply his SHEER WILL ( JA rastafari) improving 50% more to appear perreault smooth effortless w his moves is mind boggling. Tage might actually terrify opponents. Mcdavid clearly in a league of his own has incredible will but not as much as TAGE !? ( really his name? ) And Mcjesus doesn't terrify people in dreams that Al McInnis or Shea Weber unfairly moved up half the distance to get to decapitate the world for being a lie) Why anyone want to trade oola laloffsin or Mitts who Donny is certain will up his game , heal physically and mentally becoming all engaged all shift defensively and suddenly become a 60 point guy feasting on those they keep away from our other 3 lines I'm willing to give Don Granato and Kevyn ( wtf w the Y ) Adams benefit of any doubt and patience reserved for Mr Imlach. Remember KA has been around here as long as anyone clearly seeing how to get the best like Donny w a wonderful different approach to create a MxBDernota for the sabres w theyr own honorable Superstar Quasimodo hidden under the ' real ' stars in St Louis WOW
 
I relieved my self over to comments , I will edit later as many a moron has promised , I was trying to show how much ka and Donny know the intruqicues of hockey , between then they kniw personalities and like skinner teaching and feeling up Thompson who also sees the game slow down thru skinner, he calmly sees the spaces that open in the flow. Tuch has stayed interested and his speed and strength forces teams not to cheat . Kulich in a year may be our other more physical presence I ramble more saying mitts has the mitts just isn't thinking and reacting fast and his shot looks like oloffson when he was injured. I trust Donny and can't wait to see mitts and goaloffson get on trach w or without each other and Donny will have playoff team if mitts can muscle thru and drive play w tough assignments

I must Add , I am making decisions w the mindset of making the playoffs THIS YEAR

Donny ( intimate knowledge of team under duress ) seeing first hand the the team each at their worst. And he saw consequences of Jason Botts BETRAYAL that led to bottoming under Ralph leading recovering Donny getting his dream to Coach nhl prove quite eloquently daily , why he may just create a team from Clay and if they reach their potential as. Group prove hes also great tactician , hockey genius w the watchful eye of family and former head coaches to critique and see thru their eyes , to finally destroy the Tampa s and bruins now that they're healthy and will have swagger from the start until the 3rd horn. ? One aspect very unpopular here is how much the adversity has helped shape KA ( Before and after botteril) and Donny before and after Krueger . So much intimate knowledge of the buffalo sabres and the prospects than many coaches and GM's are privy to , first hand w two unique perspectives along w Kim and Terry Pegula about EVERY aspect of each player ( rare glimpses) and the org of real support of the opposite .



I'll be quick as We know much this .and why this way different than any other moment as I know nothing and will only fund out based on KA moves.
.... since eichel drafted until the moment many on the boards are similarly calling for trade to support or lose our kids after the streak and hit start we have never understood why Berglund quit besides his statement , over exaggerated but clearly not explained , to the team was the lack of replacement and leaning on Hutton who helped pad goal scorers contracts as he was figured out and could not adjust becoming a team killing liability.
Next the reveal of cliques of dissent w passive aggressive behavior ( revealed before demise bylsma go do the fandango) , sewing circle, tandum biker gang and agreed upon by TeamIAm of fans board members and snarky puppy press LED by millionaire late night ' elite' hen peckers of the Jeichel , Reinhart group )
I also agreed at the Time MGMT abandoned a good start and only assistants clearly saw first hand ( both with full knowledge in the background ) after starting well and losing Berglund and actually playing Hutton w a straight face by botteril did not try fix in December and January using assets to fill the Berglund/ Ror defensive shutdown role.
He ( botts) lost the room to the sewing circle again , and his job. Eichel most likely remained in the ear of both Adams and Donny as assistants , as a pegula go between which may have later led to tough questions and tough decisions that looking back were needed as both lost faith in each other . The culmination was at locker clean out and the round table meetings which led to ' who wants to be here' w a very detailed KA philosophy ( Donny too? ) shaped over years of watching this team w experience decided to let those hang themselves.

Looking back , and threads like what's Adams gonna do . He clearly Saw the roster and maybe knew Donny agreed w him and HE MUST HAVE BELIEVED IN the talent on the team and in the draft w the same bills theory of addition by subtraction w character the decider considering all the talent we sold at PEAK value and not tank w the Bills.



, The risk alienating the fan base to death after ( house, Bismillah, Krueger); took some balls to stick to their boards of buffalo and roc and not rush anyone was impressive .

To get to here and have everyone onboard from dahlin, Thompson and Samuelson . They are all friends w eichel and ullmark, which means or implies means KA did everything in the open and simply stated his goals and whoever is here agreed and ullmark was given enough latitude to see if he could be a part and his choice simply galvanized who was here and Anderson agreed w Adams as his failsafe.. One of the key guys) coaches Adams and Donny know he speaks all and they just always agree and learn from him as well.

Even now decisions make themselves. Will KA ? Even Yost wasn't a surprise if Donny and KA believed he has room to be his better self.. I'll always be interested to see what grizzled vet on a high salary they would take and like chychrun , I see too many red flags unless az eats salary and they both know his character ,any big add must be perfect to mess w a team that has resiliency and character as Donny is completely trusted to even protect them from KA and mgmt.

I'm happy how it turns out and always thought O'Reilly and his douche brother helped create a shtty old shaming hockey culture that destroys more diamonds than it creates . that nobody on our current LINE 1 could ever flourish on. Any of past coaches as they are all trauma and misfits more than gung ho army cutouts. Weird Right?

The entitlement of Star players will be destroyed if Donny succeeds .

His attitude of embracing the real person Instead of assembling talents and letting them work it out is too much of a gamble w personalities Even two on bills right now may or may not impact home field as family is messy. Can team and cIty and desire for championship override a personal falling out , maybe it not only should but everything personal should be used w a smile against opponents as field or ice is a different world w rules that only stegthen you if yr true to them . Also another argument against singular entitlement in anti team

It only lasts a couple years and I don't believe continues like situational strangeness, the weird anti Kane , that still follows , we'll never know what side of the Trac suite we'd agree w in Wina Peg nottacup, that Murray took a shot to change our fate quickly or sabotage throwing in a former superstar goalie in lehner( w two kilos of boy and girl , better living thru chemistry and the polar opposite no fun Karen hockey of Dudley do Right Gionta ( what could go wrong) competing destinys Add a Young Kane knocking on lehners door after searching his carpet w the kids) would've been fun if we had real D and Kessel teaching then how to play sixty each night on McDonald's and no sleep.

Is that team easier to win against or our team if equally focused.. different shared experience or trauma can make or break a team . I'll take ours and no idea if Murray wasn't feeling like la la Fontaine as he left





I'm rambling apologies, should delete id can't read it , has a point to understand and compliment KA ,Donny along a timeline that goes back a few years before hired in a position of power .
I'm amazed at how this Bs and kreuger truly helped us as an organization to each player and Coach became self aware and simply decided what was most important
It forced a decision from all.

.and prioritized and created a team around it that agreed all the way to the formerly tool O'Reilly poisoned Rochester removing a talented but off message coach. Whatever is was that the team, KA ( always bring a towel) and Donny targeted and implemented and is selling still today, has created their unified dream of 70s Sabres , Goat O7;and Russian 5 w a largest helping of nobody plays unless each has the other's backs w no more stars or saviors or hierarchy which immediately did exorcise the demons , lucic miller to briere Drury and tank eichel by never booing as hockey as we've always had returned honestly w Donny and KA.

Bravo " nothing left but a broom and and a mop and an illustrated book about birds*
{ An aside , weird victory by St Louis gm to hide the fact of practice players hitting corners and roofing it both out of reach of , Huttin of the Shire in need the ability that Hasek overcame but he couldn't . These moves made me agree w Eichelbrat at time as not replacing Berglund and trusting his group signalled tank and taught Donny a lesson that will protect us as Long as he's here and we reap the rewards of Donny connections, personal relationships and street personality info to agree and disagree w Jason botteril talent evaluation that by sitting in the background like many former players on the boards BUT unlike everyone else had more intimate details about every player on the team or in the pipeline to see many obviyis answers to eliminate fleecing of the desperate Jason but MAINLY AND OBVIOUSLY talked to and envisioned the true gifts of Skinner and the emotional keys to unlock him and be thrilled He is the centaur, centerpiece of the Friggin rebuild. GLORIOUSLY saw Tage bad name awkward giraffe Thompson Krist superstar needed love and no competition and trust w Room at center to unleash the most unlikely REVEAL ( HE is secretly the love child ( in an AC DC bang w a gang) of Mario lemieux , awkward step brother of Pavel Datsuk ,and the shot of Rico ) His range to improve and apply his SHEER WILL ( JA rastafari) improving 50% more to appear perreault smooth effortless w his moves is mind boggling. Tage might actually terrify opponents. Mcdavid clearly in a league of his own has incredible will but not as much as TAGE !? ( really his name? ) And Mcjesus doesn't terrify people in dreams that Al McInnis or Shea Weber unfairly moved up half the distance to get to decapitate the world for being a lie) Why anyone want to trade oola laloffsin or Mitts who Donny is certain will up his game , heal physically and mentally becoming all engaged all shift defensively and suddenly become a 60 point guy feasting on those they keep away from our other 3 lines I'm willing to give Don Granato and Kevyn ( wtf w the Y ) Adams benefit of any doubt and patience reserved for Mr Imlach. Remember KA has been around here as long as anyone clearly seeing how to get the best like Donny w a wonderful different approach to create a MxBDernota for the sabres w theyr own honorable Superstar Quasimodo hidden under the ' real ' stars in St Louis WOW
Longest post ever.. haha ..only read half. Will finish when I'm on the toilet.
 
I don’t think the Sabres a very far away from having the defensive match up line. Asplund and Jost would make 2/3 of a really good defensive matchup line, depending on who you put with them, or acquired to go with them.
Jost maybe, but not Aspland. He can be a solid shot depressor but brings nothing else with it. He does not generate ANY offense, he does not play physical or heavy. There is not enough there to make him a playoff bottom six player. He is 100% on my list for replacing in our lineup.
 
Let’s call a spade a spade here. This sudden “Savoie is expendable, we should trade Savoie” talk is because people are seeing Kulich, Rosen and Ostlund playing at the WJCs while Savoie is not. If Savoie was on Canada and had put up 2 points in the first game no one would be floating this.
 
Let’s call a spade a spade here. This sudden “Savoie is expendable, we should trade Savoie” talk is because people are seeing Kulich, Rosen and Ostlund playing at the WJCs while Savoie is not. If Savoie was on Canada and had put up 2 points in the first game no one would be floating this.
Not really, when 2 of your picks are thriving in the American league it changes things of who you consider expendable. It's more what the other guys have done versus what Savoie hasn't.

Personally and being up front I never liked the Savoie pick anyways based on what I've been told through a buddy who scouts for Tampa, but scouts have been wrong before and they'll be wrong again.
 
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With Kulich & Rosen looking really good at the WJCs, it has me wondering what Adams is going to do with all the young forwards they have on their roster and coming up the pipeline.

If you feel like the top 6 is written in pen for the next few years, you then have Krebs, Rosen, Kulich, Savoie, and Ostlund as 5/6 of the 3rd and 4th lines before you know it.

It is going to be interesting to see who gets used as trade bait to shore up the areas on need.
 
I relieved my self over to comments , I will edit later as many a moron has promised , I was trying to show how much ka and Donny know the intruqicues of hockey , between then they kniw personalities and like skinner teaching and feeling up Thompson who also sees the game slow down thru skinner, he calmly sees the spaces that open in the flow. Tuch has stayed interested and his speed and strength forces teams not to cheat . Kulich in a year may be our other more physical presence I ramble more saying mitts has the mitts just isn't thinking and reacting fast and his shot looks like oloffson when he was injured. I trust Donny and can't wait to see mitts and goaloffson get on trach w or without each other and Donny will have playoff team if mitts can muscle thru and drive play w tough assignments

I must Add , I am making decisions w the mindset of making the playoffs THIS YEAR

Donny ( intimate knowledge of team under duress ) seeing first hand the the team each at their worst. And he saw consequences of Jason Botts BETRAYAL that led to bottoming under Ralph leading recovering Donny getting his dream to Coach nhl prove quite eloquently daily , why he may just create a team from Clay and if they reach their potential as. Group prove hes also great tactician , hockey genius w the watchful eye of family and former head coaches to critique and see thru their eyes , to finally destroy the Tampa s and bruins now that they're healthy and will have swagger from the start until the 3rd horn. ? One aspect very unpopular here is how much the adversity has helped shape KA ( Before and after botteril) and Donny before and after Krueger . So much intimate knowledge of the buffalo sabres and the prospects than many coaches and GM's are privy to , first hand w two unique perspectives along w Kim and Terry Pegula about EVERY aspect of each player ( rare glimpses) and the org of real support of the opposite .



I'll be quick as We know much this .and why this way different than any other moment as I know nothing and will only fund out based on KA moves.
.... since eichel drafted until the moment many on the boards are similarly calling for trade to support or lose our kids after the streak and hit start we have never understood why Berglund quit besides his statement , over exaggerated but clearly not explained , to the team was the lack of replacement and leaning on Hutton who helped pad goal scorers contracts as he was figured out and could not adjust becoming a team killing liability.
Next the reveal of cliques of dissent w passive aggressive behavior ( revealed before demise bylsma go do the fandango) , sewing circle, tandum biker gang and agreed upon by TeamIAm of fans board members and snarky puppy press LED by millionaire late night ' elite' hen peckers of the Jeichel , Reinhart group )
I also agreed at the Time MGMT abandoned a good start and only assistants clearly saw first hand ( both with full knowledge in the background ) after starting well and losing Berglund and actually playing Hutton w a straight face by botteril did not try fix in December and January using assets to fill the Berglund/ Ror defensive shutdown role.
He ( botts) lost the room to the sewing circle again , and his job. Eichel most likely remained in the ear of both Adams and Donny as assistants , as a pegula go between which may have later led to tough questions and tough decisions that looking back were needed as both lost faith in each other . The culmination was at locker clean out and the round table meetings which led to ' who wants to be here' w a very detailed KA philosophy ( Donny too? ) shaped over years of watching this team w experience decided to let those hang themselves.

Looking back , and threads like what's Adams gonna do . He clearly Saw the roster and maybe knew Donny agreed w him and HE MUST HAVE BELIEVED IN the talent on the team and in the draft w the same bills theory of addition by subtraction w character the decider considering all the talent we sold at PEAK value and not tank w the Bills.



, The risk alienating the fan base to death after ( house, Bismillah, Krueger); took some balls to stick to their boards of buffalo and roc and not rush anyone was impressive .

To get to here and have everyone onboard from dahlin, Thompson and Samuelson . They are all friends w eichel and ullmark, which means or implies means KA did everything in the open and simply stated his goals and whoever is here agreed and ullmark was given enough latitude to see if he could be a part and his choice simply galvanized who was here and Anderson agreed w Adams as his failsafe.. One of the key guys) coaches Adams and Donny know he speaks all and they just always agree and learn from him as well.

Even now decisions make themselves. Will KA ? Even Yost wasn't a surprise if Donny and KA believed he has room to be his better self.. I'll always be interested to see what grizzled vet on a high salary they would take and like chychrun , I see too many red flags unless az eats salary and they both know his character ,any big add must be perfect to mess w a team that has resiliency and character as Donny is completely trusted to even protect them from KA and mgmt.

I'm happy how it turns out and always thought O'Reilly and his douche brother helped create a shtty old shaming hockey culture that destroys more diamonds than it creates . that nobody on our current LINE 1 could ever flourish on. Any of past coaches as they are all trauma and misfits more than gung ho army cutouts. Weird Right?

The entitlement of Star players will be destroyed if Donny succeeds .

His attitude of embracing the real person Instead of assembling talents and letting them work it out is too much of a gamble w personalities Even two on bills right now may or may not impact home field as family is messy. Can team and cIty and desire for championship override a personal falling out , maybe it not only should but everything personal should be used w a smile against opponents as field or ice is a different world w rules that only stegthen you if yr true to them . Also another argument against singular entitlement in anti team

It only lasts a couple years and I don't believe continues like situational strangeness, the weird anti Kane , that still follows , we'll never know what side of the Trac suite we'd agree w in Wina Peg nottacup, that Murray took a shot to change our fate quickly or sabotage throwing in a former superstar goalie in lehner( w two kilos of boy and girl , better living thru chemistry and the polar opposite no fun Karen hockey of Dudley do Right Gionta ( what could go wrong) competing destinys Add a Young Kane knocking on lehners door after searching his carpet w the kids) would've been fun if we had real D and Kessel teaching then how to play sixty each night on McDonald's and no sleep.

Is that team easier to win against or our team if equally focused.. different shared experience or trauma can make or break a team . I'll take ours and no idea if Murray wasn't feeling like la la Fontaine as he left





I'm rambling apologies, should delete id can't read it , has a point to understand and compliment KA ,Donny along a timeline that goes back a few years before hired in a position of power .
I'm amazed at how this Bs and kreuger truly helped us as an organization to each player and Coach became self aware and simply decided what was most important
It forced a decision from all.

.and prioritized and created a team around it that agreed all the way to the formerly tool O'Reilly poisoned Rochester removing a talented but off message coach. Whatever is was that the team, KA ( always bring a towel) and Donny targeted and implemented and is selling still today, has created their unified dream of 70s Sabres , Goat O7;and Russian 5 w a largest helping of nobody plays unless each has the other's backs w no more stars or saviors or hierarchy which immediately did exorcise the demons , lucic miller to briere Drury and tank eichel by never booing as hockey as we've always had returned honestly w Donny and KA.

Bravo " nothing left but a broom and and a mop and an illustrated book about birds*
{ An aside , weird victory by St Louis gm to hide the fact of practice players hitting corners and roofing it both out of reach of , Huttin of the Shire in need the ability that Hasek overcame but he couldn't . These moves made me agree w Eichelbrat at time as not replacing Berglund and trusting his group signalled tank and taught Donny a lesson that will protect us as Long as he's here and we reap the rewards of Donny connections, personal relationships and street personality info to agree and disagree w Jason botteril talent evaluation that by sitting in the background like many former players on the boards BUT unlike everyone else had more intimate details about every player on the team or in the pipeline to see many obviyis answers to eliminate fleecing of the desperate Jason but MAINLY AND OBVIOUSLY talked to and envisioned the true gifts of Skinner and the emotional keys to unlock him and be thrilled He is the centaur, centerpiece of the Friggin rebuild. GLORIOUSLY saw Tage bad name awkward giraffe Thompson Krist superstar needed love and no competition and trust w Room at center to unleash the most unlikely REVEAL ( HE is secretly the love child ( in an AC DC bang w a gang) of Mario lemieux , awkward step brother of Pavel Datsuk ,and the shot of Rico ) His range to improve and apply his SHEER WILL ( JA rastafari) improving 50% more to appear perreault smooth effortless w his moves is mind boggling. Tage might actually terrify opponents. Mcdavid clearly in a league of his own has incredible will but not as much as TAGE !? ( really his name? ) And Mcjesus doesn't terrify people in dreams that Al McInnis or Shea Weber unfairly moved up half the distance to get to decapitate the world for being a lie) Why anyone want to trade oola laloffsin or Mitts who Donny is certain will up his game , heal physically and mentally becoming all engaged all shift defensively and suddenly become a 60 point guy feasting on those they keep away from our other 3 lines I'm willing to give Don Granato and Kevyn ( wtf w the Y ) Adams benefit of any doubt and patience reserved for Mr Imlach. Remember KA has been around here as long as anyone clearly seeing how to get the best like Donny w a wonderful different approach to create a MxBDernota for the sabres w theyr own honorable Superstar Quasimodo hidden under the ' real ' stars in St Louis WOW
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With Kulich & Rosen looking really good at the WJCs, it has me wondering what Adams is going to do with all the young forwards they have on their roster and coming up the pipeline.

If you feel like the top 6 is written in pen for the next few years, you then have Krebs, Rosen, Kulich, Savoie, and Ostlund as 5/6 of the 3rd and 4th lines before you know it.

It is going to be interesting to see who gets used as trade bait to shore up the areas on need.
Along with a 1st and 3 seconds this year behind them. Not to mention there are a few non-first round picks in our system that could very well end up being good NHL players. We have ton of currency right now. The hard part is molding it into an NHL team! It will require trading some of them to balance the NHL roster needs. I am not saying we sell and trade everything, but I believe the window is NOW open to start concentrating assets and talent to add "long-term core assets" to the club. Making the playoffs this year and getting the current core some experience in that arena, could be a huge boost to their performance next year.
 
Along with a 1st and 3 seconds this year behind them. Not to mention there are a few non-first round picks in our system that could very well end up being good NHL players. We have ton of currency right now. The hard part is molding it into an NHL team! It will require trading some of them to balance the NHL roster needs. I am not saying we sell and trade everything, but I believe the window is NOW open to start concentrating assets and talent to add "long-term core assets" to the club. Making the playoffs this year and getting the current core some experience in that arena, could be a huge boost to their performance next year.
Josh Bloom is a guy that looks like he might turn out to be a really good bottom 6 guy in the NHL. And he is just one of the non-1st round guys that look like they could be solid NHL forwards.

When Adams decides to add and who he moves to make those adds will be really interesting to watch.

My guess is that he waits longer to make adds than a lot of fans are comfortable with.
 
With Kulich & Rosen looking really good at the WJCs, it has me wondering what Adams is going to do with all the young forwards they have on their roster and coming up the pipeline.

If you feel like the top 6 is written in pen for the next few years, you then have Krebs, Rosen, Kulich, Savoie, and Ostlund as 5/6 of the 3rd and 4th lines before you know it.

It is going to be interesting to see who gets used as trade bait to shore up the areas on need.
I think realistically we could see a 3rd line of Kulich/Savoie/Rosen in 24/25. I think Ostlund may be a year further out. Then guys like Kozak, Bloom, Nadeau, Rousek, Cederqvist and maybe even Krebs as 4th line guys that can play all over the line-up as soon as next season for someone like Rousek, or a few years away for Nadeau.

Eventually you have to think Skinner will start to fade in a few years towards the end of his deal which will slide other guys up. Tuch has the benefit of playing the type of game that can work on pretty much any line so he could also see himself dropped to the 2nd or 3rd line if others pass him without seeing his play drop off at all.

I definitely think they'll make some trades, especially with some of the guys who may have top 6 potential but be outclassed by other players. Someone like Kisakov for example has a lot of skill, but with so many young prospects and forwards he may see himself too low to crack the team.

I agree it's going to be very interesting to see how the roster works itself out, and who doesn't make it. Right now so many of them look great, but as we all know not everyone will make it to the NHL.
 
Not really, when 2 of your picks are thriving in the American league it changes things of who you consider expendable. It's more what the other guys have done versus what Savoie hasn't.

Personally and being up front I never liked the Savoie pick anyways based on what I've been told through a buddy who scouts for Tampa, but scouts have been wrong before and they'll be wrong again.
What were you told?
 
With Kulich & Rosen looking really good at the WJCs, it has me wondering what Adams is going to do with all the young forwards they have on their roster and coming up the pipeline.

If you feel like the top 6 is written in pen for the next few years, you then have Krebs, Rosen, Kulich, Savoie, and Ostlund as 5/6 of the 3rd and 4th lines before you know it.

It is going to be interesting to see who gets used as trade bait to shore up the areas on need.
Its definitely something to watch.

-Kulich/Rosen are probably starting with Amerks next season (barring a 2nd half breakout).
-Savoie/Ostlund are probably going to be in WHL and Sweden respectfully next season. The following year they would likely both start with Amerks.

We’re probably two seasons out from all 4 being here (Buffalo and Rochester)

I don’t think Krebs is someone they would look to trade any time soon. Right now they are working him in at center with training wheels (Girgs/KO). Can he transition away from the training wheels to be an effective/reliable option at center? He’s certainly got plenty of time this season to work towards that. If Krebs figures that out then he becomes a piece of the puzzle not a trade piece.

I’m not sure they would be looking to trade any of them at the moment. Any potential logjam is a few years off and they still have a decent amount of other pieces to make moves with.
 
Let’s call a spade a spade here. This sudden “Savoie is expendable, we should trade Savoie” talk is because people are seeing Kulich, Rosen and Ostlund playing at the WJCs while Savoie is not. If Savoie was on Canada and had put up 2 points in the first game no one would be floating this.

I mean, one hundred percent.
 
That is the upside of the current situation.

The downside will be the OMG takes if Adams were to move Savoie in one of those deals and Kulich in the other.
Definitely. I would think adams would want to get to a point where the team is successful while still having good ELCs to sprinkle in. If we wait for everyone to organically grow into the group, we may start to see veterans get a little ancy. Hopefully we've all been mentally preparing ourselves to lose 1 or 2 of our favorite prospects.
 
With Kulich & Rosen looking really good at the WJCs, it has me wondering what Adams is going to do with all the young forwards they have on their roster and coming up the pipeline.

If you feel like the top 6 is written in pen for the next few years, you then have Krebs, Rosen, Kulich, Savoie, and Ostlund as 5/6 of the 3rd and 4th lines before you know it.

It is going to be interesting to see who gets used as trade bait to shore up the areas on need.

Once Cozens, Dahlin, and the other young guys get into their 2nd and 3rd contracts, we'll need a pipeline of ELC talent to stay competitive under the salary cap. So I'm glad we have it. We definitely have enough depth that you could trade a piece or 2 to shore up D and/or goaltending and still have a good prospect pool, though.
 
Its definitely something to watch.

-Kulich/Rosen are probably starting with Amerks next season (barring a 2nd half breakout).
-Savoie/Ostlund are probably going to be in WHL and Sweden respectfully next season. The following year they would likely both start with Amerks.

We’re probably two seasons out from all 4 being here (Buffalo and Rochester)

I don’t think Krebs is someone they would look to trade any time soon. Right now they are working him in at center with training wheels (Girgs/KO). Can he transition away from the training wheels to be an effective/reliable option at center? He’s certainly got plenty of time this season to work towards that. If Krebs figures that out then he becomes a piece of the puzzle not a trade piece.

I’m not sure they would be looking to trade any of them at the moment. Any potential logjam is a few years off and they still have a decent amount of other pieces to make moves with.
they should, before everyone else realizes he needs training wheels
 
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