Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

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He's doing the things that will get him further in the pro game - defensively responsible, plays in traffic, wins battles. He has had some time with Kisakov and Cederqvist at the outset of the year, lately during Cederqvist's absence that shuffled with others. They are short on centers in Rochester even with him. He looks like he's picking up the defensive side of the game which is probably the path forward for him.
I think ppl shouldn't look at his junior number and expect that with the Sabres.. Because he's low on points doesn't mean he's under performing. Its clear the org see's him as a bottom 6 player who can win faceoffs, win battles and kill penalties. How he is being used in Roch is what to expect when/if he comes to Buff. Him and Cederqvist have really good chemistry (at least to my eyes) and can see the both of them be in our bottom 6 in the future.
 
D should be the only priority at this point (unless someone is willing to gift us a #1 goalie). But we shouldn't be looking at pure rentals.

Upcoming UFAs who can be resigned long term? That's a different story...
D is a priority, of course, but if you can get a good striker at the right price, why not? Our third line is still in need of improvement, and Cozens' link has also cooled down a bit and received criticism from Granato. We really have a lot of assets with which we can improve 2-3 positions and our pool of prospects will still remain huge.
 
I'm not sure if we should definitely look for a guy like ROR, we have a lot of people to choose from for the role of 3C now (Mitts, Krebs, Jost) and in the future (Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund), but I think we would need a good winger right now to seriously improve lineup. A guy like Konecny with his contract would be the perfect pickup. But, of course, defense at this stage should be a priority.
I love Konecny and wanted him at the draft at 21 but we got Lehner instead. I completely agree the defense should be the focus but the market seems like it will be much easier and cheaper to get a forward.(unfortunately)
 
I love Konecny and wanted him at the draft at 21 but we got Lehner instead. I completely agree the defense should be the focus but the market seems like it will be much easier and cheaper to get a forward.(unfortunately)
Well, I hope Adams has been calling teams like Columbus, Arizona, Chicago, Philly, San Jose, Vancouver, Nashville, LA and Anaheim all this time and asking about cost of their players.
 
Well, I hope Adams has been calling teams like Columbus, Arizona, Chicago, Philly, San Jose, Vancouver, Nashville, LA and Anaheim all this time and asking about cost of their players.
Maybe we can get a 3rd line forward and a top 4 in a trade if Adams takes back a Salary dump. Who knows the possibilities. Lets hope we are buyers at the deadline. Faceoffs is a big problem right now. Either someone needs to get better or we need to bring in someone.
 
Does anyone feel like Chuchryn could be the missing piece that puts us in the playoffs? Would people be ok with a 1st(top 10 protected) 2nd and Kulich/Ostlund?

I feel like if we could get someone like Chuchryn it would push everyone down 1 spot on defense from 3-6

Dahlin Samuelsson
Chuchryn Power

Could be the best top 4 in the league.

Lots of chatter Buffalo is still in on it. At what sacrifice is it worth it?
If Buffalo traded for Chychrun in January, I would not protect the 1st rd pick for two reasons - lower the cost of additional trade assets, and I would expect the team to be better and compete for a playoff spot so why bother protecting.

Armstrong is supposedly staying strong on wanting two actual 1st rd picks, and then a 2nd or equivalent prospect. If not protecting the '23 1st can make Armstrong agree to the Philly 2nd and then a non-big four FW prospect, KA should jump on that.
 
Maybe we can get a 3rd line forward and a top 4 in a trade if Adams takes back a Salary dump. Who knows the possibilities. Lets hope we are buyers at the deadline. Faceoffs is a big problem right now. Either someone needs to get better or we need to bring in someone.
It's not even necessary to return cap dump, especially since teams like Anaheim, Chicago, Arizona and San Jose are rebuilding and we have a lot of assets to trade: picks, prospects, players who may need a change of scenery and can be available (Olofsson and Mitts).
 
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Ah it’s been years since I got to get in discussion with you! I forgot you like to just post cryptically and vaguely and pretend you know something rather than actually engage in a real discussion. And I forgot how much you like to do it when it comes to ROR.

Fool me once for thinking you actually want to discuss the topic. Fool me twice years later!

Moving on lmao
Honestly we don't know it, I just remember the whole Sabres media painting him as a culprit.
Could also be because of Eichel, now that that we know more about his attitude.
The story that he is toxic could only be uphold until he won the cup, got the MVP and C.
From what we know now he probably should have been C instead of Eichel.

The former two regimes just werent able to construct a sensible roster, install a positive culture or hire any sort of competent coach.

I think the Eichel trade is a good example of how you do it. A pick, a good prospect and a top line player who is also young.

For any one saying the RoR trade was fine
Imagine we would have gotten 2 cap dumps, a pick, and a prospect 4 years away from making any impact for Eichel.

I dont care that RoR was traded, If we would have gotten something back to fill his role I dont care, like with Eichel, even tough I really liked watching him.

Botts probably a reasonable assistant GM
Its like playing Fitz 20min a game.
Murray was even worse.

I am glad we have Adams/Granato now.
Without the coach Thompson maybe never would have turned out. (seeing even a 5th pick turned down for him and that Botts had no idea and already given up on him)

Identifing players isnt enough, if you re not able to develop them properly.
 
Does anyone feel like Chuchryn could be the missing piece that puts us in the playoffs?

I sure don't feel that way. Sure, our top 4 would be loaded when healthy...............

But again -- the primary defensive issue has much more to do with the forwards and defensemen not being in sync with each other. Sure, you get the occasional gaffe from Fitz that leads to facepalm moments.......but by and large if there's an odd man rush, it's likely because a forward didn't cover quick enough. Or if there's a backdoor pass, there's a forward that didn't cover quick enough or got caught puck watching. Especially from the top 6. The kids will eventually learn how, I hope.

Fixing the high danger chances against (which improves our goaltending stats which lowers GA which increases our ability to win games which increases our odds at making the playoffs) requires two things currently:
1.) A healthy defense core.....which Chychrun doesn't fix at all (though he's currently healthy)
2.) A commitment to defense from the forwards
 
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ROR isn't coming back here. People wasting their time. Pegulas shipped him out without wanting to pay his bonus and Buffalo had to take a hit in value for that.

Pegulas aren't about to pay him his salary.
 
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Does anyone feel like Chychrun could be the missing piece that puts us in the playoffs? Would people be ok with a 1st(top 10 protected) 2nd and Kulich/Ostlund?

I feel like if we could get someone like Chychrun it would push everyone down 1 spot on defense from 3-6

Dahlin Samuelsson
Chychrun Power

Could be the best top 4 in the league.

Lots of chatter Buffalo is still in on it. At what sacrifice is it worth it?
Not if it costs Kulich
 
I sure don't feel that way. Sure, our top 4 would be loaded when healthy...............

But again -- the primary defensive issue has much more to do with the forwards and defensemen not being in sync with each other. Sure, you get the occasional gaffe from Fitz that leads to facepalm moments.......but by and large if there's an odd man rush, it's likely because a forward didn't cover quick enough. Or if there's a backdoor pass, there's a forward that didn't cover quick enough or got caught puck watching. Especially from the top 6. The kids will eventually learn how, I hope.

Fixing the high danger chances against (which improves our goaltending stats which lowers GA which increases our ability to win games which increases our odds at making the playoffs) requires two things currently:
1.) A healthy defense core.....which Chychrun doesn't fix at all (though he's currently healthy)
2.) A commitment to defense from the forwards
I would argue that Chychrun immediately makes our defense like Tampa and Colorado, when they could use top 4 players even in the third pair, and they had a good balance of ice-time players and in case of injury, such a player immediately goes to the top 4. Granato just doesn't want to use all of our AHL defensemen for too long and rightly so, but Dahlin, Samuelsson and Power just get tired of playing 25+ minutes a night. Chychrun would greatly help with this.
 
Does anyone feel like Chychrun could be the missing piece that puts us in the playoffs? Would people be ok with a 1st(top 10 protected) 2nd and Kulich/Ostlund?

I feel like if we could get someone like Chychrun it would push everyone down 1 spot on defense from 3-6

Dahlin Samuelsson
Chychrun Power

Could be the best top 4 in the league.

Lots of chatter Buffalo is still in on it. At what sacrifice is it worth it?
Have Chychrun anchor his own pair and play more even minutes across the pairs. Depth issues resolved. Everyone gets to breathe except the opposition.

If we're pulling the goalie, put JC out there and let Dahlin or Power go rogue.
 
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I would argue that Chychrun immediately makes our defense like Tampa and Colorado, when they could use top 4 players even in the third pair, and they had a good balance of ice-time players and in case of injury, such a player immediately goes to the top 4. Granato just doesn't want to use all of our AHL defensemen for too long and rightly so, but Dahlin, Samuelsson and Power just get tired of playing 25+ minutes a night. Chychrun would greatly help with this.

.......all of what you said comes with the rather large caveat of "when he's healthy".
 
Have Chychrun anchor his own pair and play more even minutes across the pairs. Depth issues resolved. Everyone gets to breathe except the opposition.

If we're pulling the goalie, put JC out there and let Dahlin or Power go rogue.
A lot of possibilities with Chychrun on team.

Have one of Dahlin,Power and Chych on the ice at all times. Sammy can normally be with Dahlin but can float it needed.

Pair up Dahlin and Chchrun if we're down in a game and pressing.
 
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.......all of what you said comes with the rather large caveat of "when he's healthy".
There's no arguing with this. It's true of every player.

There are a few questions that I would want to see answered, however, before raising the blanket question of "risk".

Does he play recklessly, to the point where he's more likely to injure himself?

Is Arizona using him in a way that makes it more likely for him to get injured?

Is there any pattern to his injuries? Does he repeatedly injure the same body part?

Does his behavior indicate that he lacks mental toughness to play through minor injuries?

I'm not the guy to answer these, but there are ways to get more accurate pictures of what risks are associated with acquiring a player. Without good info, the whole question just becomes an exercise in worry.
 
Letting Colin Miller walk was not the right call. Guy's a decent player who did not look good on a shit team. He's having a very nice season in Dallas, and would be exactly what the doctor ordered on the right side.

If they want to take a run at shoring up the team this season I'd inquire about Josh Brown from ARI, and Niko Mikkola from STL.

Trading 2nds to buy into the 1st round would be great, but is unlikely imo. -Maybe- Boston would do it? They'll have a shit 1st, and their prospect pool is so dry they might be better with multiple swings.
 
Letting Colin Miller walk was not the right call. Guy's a decent player who did not look good on a shit team. He's having a very nice season in Dallas, and would be exactly what the doctor ordered on the right side.
He is a decent player there, but I don't think he would be here. Without any info besides my own gut feeling.
 
Thats insane. Dahlin.
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Letting Colin Miller walk was not the right call. Guy's a decent player who did not look good on a shit team. He's having a very nice season in Dallas, and would be exactly what the doctor ordered on the right side.

If they want to take a run at shoring up the team this season I'd inquire about Josh Brown from ARI, and Niko Mikkola from STL.

Trading 2nds to buy into the 1st round would be great, but is unlikely imo. -Maybe- Boston would do it? They'll have a shit 1st, and their prospect pool is so dry they might be better with multiple swings.
It was the right call. The decision not to upgrade that position is the one that should be questioned (Lybushkin is a lateral move at best).
 
Maybe. But also: as we become better and better, we're going to need guys on ELCs to come in and contribute. 3 shots at that in the 2nd round
100% a fair point. But you already have the following ELC players potentially trickling into the lineup over the next 5 years

Savoie, Kulich, Rosen, Ostlund, Rousek, Poltapov, Kisakov, Marjala, Nadeau, Bloom, Kozak, and some others. Our top six is pretty much set for the next 3ish years.
 
I don’t think I ever realized that the only skaters in our healthy lineup that weren’t first rounders are: Sammy, Peterka, Olofsson, Bryson and Boosh

Not counting the depth D or forward scratches
 
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