Roster Thread (2023-2024 Season)

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The first part is the problem. Yes replace VO etc. but a coach doesn’t have the ability to do that. He can only determine how much each plays. Him telling x to play harder falls on deaf ears if he can’t replace their time with someone else. You can’t roll 2 lines. Public chastising isn’t going to work in a world of guaranteed contracts. Unless the gm is willing to move them.

The philosophy of just adding skill without thinking about physicality and discipline, leaves a huge hole in the bottom 6. And you don’t have the opportunity to reward that type of play if you are not willing or can’t penalize the top line players.

Last night during the 5/3 Tuch coasted for 20 seconds floating around the perimeter passing back and forth to the point. At no time did he look to drive to the box or get the puck to the low man or bumper. He does this more often than most like to admit. But I would have stapled him to the bench for awhile. But who takesnhis place? That is as big an issue as the coach saying play harder.

Good point on Tuch's lack of urgency on the PP - he went from being active off-puck to nearly stationary over the last year - it's similar to the complaints about Okposo on the 2nd unit. He has a job there to go to the front of the net (similar to Tuch on PP1). There aren't really any other players they have attempted to use in that role nor anyone who has shown an aptitude to do that. Who is supposed to be the net front screen if there is no one else?

They have leaned way too hard into small-playing all-skill guys without bringing out a level of toughness in the ones they already have. I doubt the demand in the room between players is the same in Buffalo as it is for a team like the Bruins. It's not like the Bruins are just filled with murderous intent as much as they are with those willing to play a more classic type of game that involves both contact and embracing defensive responsibility.

It's clear that a lot of guys do not have confidence in one another. Some guys are chasing the play that their teammate already has handled - Jost has done it a few games ago below the net, then RJohnson in the Blues' game - and there are way too many who are not paying attention to details. The players have to want to play the right way - there is no way Granato alone is going to draw that out of them.
 
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Is anyone excited to watch the game tonight?
Every game is one closer to Adams no longer running this team. Might be years away…but it’s still a game closer.

Most exciting thing we get. In season or out.
 
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Ok, I'll throw my trade thoughts into the roster thread. Goalie wise I go after Allen or Blackwood ASAP. Blackwood has been fantastic on a crappy SJ team. The other 2 players I would target are both on SJ as well. Duclair and Sturm. Blockbuster with Grier ??? Watched Duclair the other night and his speed is a perfect match for the Sabres style of play and her can fill in on the Top 6. Sturm is a solid 3C with a 60% on the dot. We are soooo bad at faceoffs. Sturm is a fellow German for JJ as well. They can both fill in the Top 6 till Tage and Quinn return. It could be months before Quinn actually catches up to games speed if at all this year. Krebs and VO go.... along with the A prospect and a 2nd. Maybe more.
Rosen back to the AHL obviously. Benson.... back to the WHL after the WJC ????


When it all shakes out?

Skinner - Tage - Tuch (Inj?)
Duke - Cozens - Quinn/Benson
Mitts - Sturm - JJP
Greenway - Girgs - KO
 
Ok, I'll throw my trade thoughts into the roster thread. Goalie wise I go after Allen or Blackwood ASAP. Blackwood has been fantastic on a crappy SJ team.

Ehhhhh, I don't really see the need to upgrade in the net unless it's a definitive upgrade to a legit #1 NHL goalie. And there isn't one available, nor has there been one available to go get. Maybe possibly Helle was available at some point this summer, but I want(ed) no part of that extension he signed.

UPL has been providing us league-average goaltending, if not ever so slightly above. I don't see any reason to upgrade there unless it's a substantial upgrade. Comrie is fine as the backup.

I do like the idea of Sturm, certainly. He'd be a really nice 3rd/4th line center who can actually win faceoffs and would be a solid add to the PK.

Duclair seems redundant to me, especially when (if?) we get healthy. All offense, no defense speedster. In fact, he's probably a fair bit worse in his own zone than a lot of what we're trotting out there now (unless he's improved since last I saw him).
 
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Duclair is all over Sabre Twitter..

What's the fascination with him all of a sudden?
He is the only non-anchor contract who MIGHT be willing to play with Buffalo...if Buffalo overpays, of course. That's enough to start a huge twitter conversation, that's how pathetic of a spot this team is in.
 
Duclair is all over Sabre Twitter..

What's the fascination with him all of a sudden?

As I said in my post above -- I don't get why we'd want Duclair. He's terribly redundant.

He is the only non-anchor contract who MIGHT be willing to play with Buffalo...if Buffalo overpays, of course. That's enough to start a huge twitter conversation, that's how pathetic of a spot this team is in.
If we traded for him, he wouldn't have a choice? He doesn't have a NMC or NTC.
 
As I said in my post above -- I don't get why we'd want Duclair. He's terribly redundant.


If we traded for him, he wouldn't have a choice? He doesn't have a NMC or NTC.
Every player has a choice. He just tells his agent he doesn't want to be in Buffalo and that's as good as a NTC.

I'm not sure what problem Duclair solves unless it is to pick up all sub-6' wingers who play an offense only, contact free game.

It solves the issue of fans wanting Adams to make a move -- any move. Those are the dumb fans that he probably isn't listening to.

No, he's listening to an even dumber fan -- Terry Pegula.
 
I'm not sure what problem Duclair solves unless it is to pick up all sub-6' wingers who play an offense only, contact free game.
In my mind Duclair fits the Sabres system which is a fast paced... non hitting system. With Quinn, TAge and potentially Tuch out for the foreseeable future Duclair would provide NHL replacement and when/if everyone returns we push out the fodder. BTW, heading down to Ponte Vedra for the winter. Hoping to catch an ICEMAN game. Chatted with Mike Vernon at his HOF party and his son Matt is a goalie there now.
 
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In my mind Duclair fits the Sabres system which is a fast paced... non hitting system. With Quinn, TAge and potentially Tuch out for the foreseeable future Duclair would provide NHL replacement and when/if everyone returns we push out the fodder. BTW, heading down to Ponte Vedra for the winter. Hoping to catch an ICEMAN game. Chatted with Mike Vernon at his HOF party and his son Matt is a goalie there now.

Eh, they have too many guys cut from the same cloth already. They need more contact and more willingness to be on the right side of the play, not another guy who plays a one-way game. They have enough of that already.


As for Vernon, he and Houser are an interesting tandem. If both farm clubs stay relatively healthy, both should be good. When Buffalo dipped in for a few bodies and the Amerks had something like 9 injuries themselves, the Icemen struggled.

At least we would win something...here's your 🏆

Ummm... yay? :D
 
Every game is one closer to Adams no longer running this team. Might be years away…but it’s still a game closer.

Most exciting thing we get. In season or out.
A reminder:

Adams ---> Pegula

Garth Snow ---> Charles Wang

Like Garth the only way he loses his job is an ownership change.
 
It’s good people are talking about it…but nothing that has happened is actually surprising. Saying he can’t see them wanting to let another year slip away…I can’t see them giving a solitary f*** one way or the other. Because I pay attention to their actions.

Quinn went down and they did nothing.

Power has needed a good partner forever and they’ve known that since they won the f***ing lottery

They haven’t cared about goalie the entirety of Adams tenure.

He hasn’t cared about the bottom six either.

Granato can’t fix the 5 on 4 let alone the team at 5 on 5.

What are we supposed to be surprised about? This is who they are. They’ve shown us that repeatedly.

There needs to be an entirely new philosophy from roster building to coaching. These are inexperienced clowns. Don’t act surprised when you are watching a shitty circus.
 
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