Roster Thread (2023-2024 Season)

[MOGlLNY]

New 32 thoughts has a one sentence blurb that says teams are calling to ask about Tuch but Buffalo values him.

I am DYING to know what Kevyn Adams is thinking when he hears that question. Would you like to move your hometown first line player who wants to be there and is under contract for two more years? He has to realize why that call comes in, right? Do you think he ever stops and considers that this is what the rest of the league thinks of his plan? That he’s so far away not only should he be selling but he should be considering moving out guys with term…presumably for either more futures because he should blow it up…or for defense because his inaction has painted him into a corner where they think he must be that desperate.

I don’t want to hear this brushed off with “teams call on everyone…that’s thieir job”. Everyone doesn’t get called on. And everyone who is isn’t purposely reported by Friedman.

So what does Adams think when the stench of failure and/or desperation eminating from his four years of ”work” results in that phone call?

Friedman mentioned this previously about a week ago and he said “Buffalo said that’s not absolutely happening” so it seems Adams does have at least 1% of a clue

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Such an odd take. Captain entitlement? From Okposo? I doubt any of our current players are feeling very entitled.

I’m starting to think this is a burner for a player on the current roster.

 

[TageGod]

I’m starting to think this is a burner for a player on the current roster.

Who would that be?

 

[TageGod]

I’m starting to think this is a burner for a player on the current roster.

Well if the current player is 31 with 1 kid I suppose you could consider that.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Friedman mentioned this previously about a week ago and he said “Buffalo said that’s not absolutely happening” so it seems Adams does have at least 1% of a clue

This year. If He's not going to re-sign at a reasonable number, Adams absolutely needs to trade him two off-seasons from now.

 

[sabremike]

Eichel forced out a coach he didn't like, then forced a trade after the team committed to him in both contract and captaincy. If we're going on about entitlement, he's the posterchild.

Presuming the first part refers to Abysmal and if that's the case it's a very unfair take. The entire team hated Abysmal and wanted to chuck the guy off the Peace Bridge, Eichel was the guy chosen to deliver the message because the team knew ownership would listen to him.

 

[TehDoak]

Eichel forced out a coach he didn't like, then forced a trade after the team committed to him in both contract and captaincy. If we're going on about entitlement, he's the posterchild.

I've always been curious about Bylsma rumor, it seemed more like Murray trying to play the media to get a different coach in there. After that was reported, Eichel came out and completely denied it. I mean, as far as the trade goes....he asked for a trade when the team said they were going to rebuild for their 3rd time in his first six years. And for the record, Risto and Reinhart stated they wasn't going to go through a 3rd rebuild either, yet Eichel gets all the venom. Eichel certainly wasn't perfect, but he wasn't the issue. Just like O'Reilly wasn't the issue previously.

The issue in Buffalo continues to be dysfunctional ownership and management. Trading away former high draft picks who go on to be key parts of cup winners and deep playoff runs for relative pennies on the dollar because they are frustrated with all the losing rather than bring

 

[toddkaz]

 

[DeletedUser539]

I've always been curious about Bylsma rumor, it seemed more like Murray trying to play the media to get a different coach in there. After that was reported, Eichel came out and completely denied it. I mean, as far as the trade goes....he asked for a trade when the team said they were going to rebuild for their 3rd time in his first six years. And for the record, Risto and Reinhart stated they wasn't going to go through a 3rd rebuild either, yet Eichel gets all the venom. Eichel certainly wasn't perfect, but he wasn't the issue. Just like O'Reilly wasn't the issue previously.

The issue in Buffalo continues to be dysfunctional ownership and management. Trading away former high draft picks who go on to be key parts of cup winners and deep playoff runs for relative pennies on the dollar because they are frustrated with all the losing rather than bring

I had no problem with the eichel debacle initially until he chirped at the fans but we denied him the surgery he wanted which looks like it was the right call it's not like he pulled a Tavares he went to the team behind closed doors stated he wanted a trade before it became public and the next rebuild was starting after that shitshow year (thanks krueger) I'm glad we got what we did for eichel but if we pulled the trigger sooner we could have gotten more from Vegas (still amazed we got tuch,Krebs and 1st great haul) it was a chaotic situation and mess that got cleaned up. In my opinion neither side was in the wrong but the more the situation dragged on the messier it got. It has been a disappointing year and it feels like 2015-2019 all over again but there are still bright spots and a lot less holes to fill than before.

 

[Chainshot]

I've always been curious about Bylsma rumor, it seemed more like Murray trying to play the media to get a different coach in there. After that was reported, Eichel came out and completely denied it. I mean, as far as the trade goes....he asked for a trade when the team said they were going to rebuild for their 3rd time in his first six years. And for the record, Risto and Reinhart stated they wasn't going to go through a 3rd rebuild either, yet Eichel gets all the venom. Eichel certainly wasn't perfect, but he wasn't the issue. Just like O'Reilly wasn't the issue previously.

The issue in Buffalo continues to be dysfunctional ownership and management. Trading away former high draft picks who go on to be key parts of cup winners and deep playoff runs for relative pennies on the dollar because they are frustrated with all the losing rather than bring

Murray got fired because he wasn’t in communication with his team or the coach and wasn’t willing to fire Abysmal.

 

[Dubi Doo]

The issues with this franchise are much bigger than Eichel, but he didn't seem like a good leader. Of course, none of us are in the locker-room, so who knows? I still put most of the blame on the GMs/coaches during Eichel's tenure.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I had no problem with the eichel debacle initially until he chirped at the fans but we denied him the surgery he wanted which looks like it was the right call it's not like he pulled a Tavares he went to the team behind closed doors stated he wanted a trade before it became public and the next rebuild was starting after that shitshow year (thanks krueger) I'm glad we got what we did for eichel but if we pulled the trigger sooner we could have gotten more from Vegas (still amazed we got tuch,Krebs and 1st great haul) it was a chaotic situation and mess that got cleaned up. In my opinion neither side was in the wrong but the more the situation dragged on the messier it got. It has been a disappointing year and it feels like 2015-2019 all over again but there are still bright spots and a lot less holes to fill than before.

He demanded a trade before the neck injury that required surgery even happened. Those 2 situations had absolutely nothing to do with each other apart from overlapping timelines.

 

[DeletedUser539]

He demanded a trade before the neck injury that required surgery even happened. Those 2 situations had absolutely nothing to do with each other apart from overlapping timelines.

Exactly then his agent went public about the trade Sabres handled it a bit poorly only because no one saw the neck injury coming. Once he was denied the surgery he wanted there was no turning back, the fact he wanted a trade didn't become public until that happened

 

[HaNotsri]

Such an odd take. Captain entitlement? From Okposo? I doubt any of our current players are feeling very entitled.

Maybe entitled is the wrong word but going against the fans after being trash for years just sets me off. Could be my stupid swedish culture of honour, I don't know what the equalient would be, maybe stepping on the american flag or something? It's just something you don't do.

What's frustrating with american sports is that as fans you can't just replace the chairman and board and force them to fire the gm, coach etc.
It might sound like a nightmare but being able to send the whole board packing led to a champiobship win shortly after, best I've ever felt as a fan.

 

[Perratrooper]

Would Sabres fans consider something along the lines of Byram+Colton+RyJo+2025 first for Thompson? Buffalo could then turn around and trade Byram+2025 first for a RHD or use him on his off-side (where he has been playing well lately).

This would provide Buffalo with a tenacious, defensively sound 3C who is the same age as Thompson and has experience winning in playoffs, as well as a good young top 4 defender who has both side utility and a first round pick.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Would Sabres fans consider something along the lines of Byram+Colton+RyJo+2025 first for Thompson? Buffalo could then turn around and trade Byram+2025 first for a RHD or use him on his off-side (where he has been playing well lately).

This would provide Buffalo with a tenacious, defensively sound 3C who is the same age as Thompson and has experience winning in playoffs, as well as a good young top 4 defender who has both side utility and a first round pick.

This is the exact opposite of what we should be doing, so no.

 

[Perratrooper]

This is the exact opposite of what we should be doing, so no.

What do you think the Sabres should be doing?

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

What do you think the Sabres should be doing?

Quality for quantity is not it. We have an abundance of assets. The only way one of our centers, especially Tage, should be moved is for an established top-4 RHD with term. Hockey trades, not tear down moves.

 

[Beerz]

What happened to this franchise.. and the game of hockey?

 

[Perratrooper]

Quality for quantity is not it. We have an abundance of assets. The only way one of our centers, especially Tage, should be moved is for an established top-4 RHD with term. Hockey trades, not tear down moves.

My point is you could trade or start the basis of a trade with Byram+2025 first (Avs) for an established defenseman like an Anderson. It can be a hockey trade when you guys address 3C and your established RHD in two moves.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

My point is you could trade or start the basis of a trade with Byram+2025 first (Avs) for an established defenseman like an Anderson. It can be a hockey trade when you guys address 3C and your established RHD in two moves.

(1) two-step moves like this basically never happen
(2) Calgary fans have been clear they wouldn’t move Andersson for a package like that, and if they would, we have a number of high value young assets, including our own 1st, that we could put on the table if we wanted to.

The Sabres cannot keep trading the best player in the deal and expect to go anywhere. And Adams has said he won’t be doing that.

 

[Beerz]

My point is you could trade or start the basis of a trade with Byram+2025 first (Avs) for an established defenseman like an Anderson. It can be a hockey trade when you guys address 3C and your established RHD in two moves.

We have the means to get Andersson on our own with prospects and picks. Not worth trading Tage to address 3C

 

[Der Jaeger]

The trade target I'd be after is Broberg from Edmonton. He's not going to be the point producer they thought they drafted, but I can see him developing into a Tallinder-esque mobile defender who can log heavy minutes against top lines.

Not sure what it'd take to get him, but he'd be a good addition to the blueline.

 

[SundherDome]

The trade target I'd be after is Broberg from Edmonton. He's not going to be the point producer they thought they drafted, but I can see him developing into a Tallinder-esque mobile defender who can log heavy minutes against top lines.

Not sure what it'd take to get him, but he'd be a good addition to the blueline.

They have said no rentals, so most likely someone with team control. Maybe a Rousek who can give them bottom 6 value for a few years.

 

[SundherDome]

What happened to this franchise.. and the game of hockey?

First part, it starts with who was behind the bench. It then trickles down to having goons in the lineup.

For the game, the rules around instigators has calmed it down and goons don't really have a role anymore because you can't shouldn't be rolling out a line that only plays 8 min a game.

Commonality is, refs are still blind to obvious shit and try to calm games down more