I know young defensemen aren't traded that often, but are there trades in the last 10 or so years, that have been made with a dman comparable to Fowler. I'm not saying the Sabres can acquire him for spare parts, but the 8OA pick +, seems like a lot to give up.
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You hope the 8th overall pick becomes Fowler one day, which is pretty unlikely. Our defense is pretty weak and inexperienced, moving the pick for a mobile LHD who has a lot of experience is ideal.
Well, there was this year in terms of the sort of defensemen we're talking about -
Seth Jones for Ryan Johanson
Martin Marcinin (and waste of oxygen Brad Ross) for a 4th round pick
James Wisniewski for Anton Khudobin
Griffen Reinhart for a 1st and 2nd in 2015
Dougie Hamilton for a 1st and 2 2nds in 2015
That's some expensive return for most of these guys but not all that much productive play. *shrug*
Going back to the previous summer -
Gorges for a 2nd rounder
Johnny Boychuk for 2 2nds and a conditional 3rd
Leddy for a pile of crap
Brad Stuart for a 2nd and a 6th
Roman Polack for Carl Gunnarsson and a 4th
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I feel like him signing here would torpedo any chance at Vesey. On the other hand missing out on both is no fun. On the third hand getting neither may up the chances we draft a forward and pass on these uninspiring D people want because of need.
I'm rooting for the last one. College UFAs come and go every year. We won't pick this high again for a long time.
I'm rooting for the last one. College UFAs come and go every year. We won't pick this high again for a long time.
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Agreed. Vesey is an absolute beast.
And I like Caggiula more than most apparently. I think he could really help our team.
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I kinda see DC as the next coming of Gionta....maybe not quite the offensive ceiling.
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I like Caggiula fine and think he could find the space he needs to play his game here with the players we already have up front.
I just expect him to pick his coach in Philly or his teammates in Vancouver. And I don't blame him for those reasons.
Maybe Vesey ends up thinking similarly and chooses to play with his friend come August.
I just expect him to pick his coach in Philly or his teammates in Vancouver. And I don't blame him for those reasons.
Maybe Vesey ends up thinking similarly and chooses to play with his friend come August.
UDFA are free money. It's like finding additional draft picks that have run the development curve and are now ready to be professional contributors, picks you didn't even know you took but now are yours once they sign.
He's got that "thing" that smaller players must have in order to be a good NHL player (other than skill, obviously). Most of it is fire, as a guy like Marchand exemplifies. But some of it is intangibles.
The way I could see him move up and down the lineup is impressive.
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Agreed. Getting either one of these guys is like getting an extra first round pick, but further along in development
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Which is why I'd prefer to trade the pick for someone who can help immediately. But that said - you still hope a top 10 pick will be an impact player a few years down the line. It's still a high profile addition.
My dream scenario for the summer would be to somehow turn any 'non core' assets we have into two quality LHD's. But I'd settle for one & using 8ov to select one of the LHD.
so... we're going to get Vesey
I'm curious to gauge where he would go in a 2012 re-draft.
so... we're going to get Vesey
Is either player a really bad miss if we don't get them ?
I understand the point about free money - but you don't need free money if you're already rich.
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