Roster Speculation Part XI...$teven $tamko$?? Pony up for PK?

[TehDoak]

I'd love Campbell on a two-year deal. He's been a great partner for Ekblad, and I think he'd do the same for Risto. More importantly, unlike Goligoski, he'd require far less term.

I think it's important for us to finish strong to show guys like Campbell that we're a viable team for guys who are in the dusk of their careers.

I don't see why Campbell leaves Florida. Seems to be a good fit for both sides.

 

[Mit Yarrum]

I don't see why Campbell leaves Florida. Seems to be a good fit for both sides.

Same thought here. I can't imagine why he'd leave that team.

 

[joshjull]

I don't see why Campbell leaves Florida. Seems to be a good fit for both sides.

Same thought here. I can't imagine why he'd leave that team.

Maybe they chose to let him go for financial reasons. They have a lot of UFAs and RFAs the next two summers with some key youngsters up for new deals.

 

[Zip15]

I don't see why Campbell leaves Florida. Seems to be a good fit for both sides.

Maybe. And he obviously has a relationship with Tallon. But the Panthers are a budget team, so they may not be able to match better offers.

 

[haseoke39]

Pysyk might be our most underrated player, and he deserves more minutes than he gets already. His departure without a better defenseman coming back would make the long road to rebuilding this defense just ridiculous.

 

[Chainshot]

Trying to piece together various fragments of information, perhaps Dallas and Buffalo are talking about a deal involving Pysyk? Buffalo has scouted the Texas Stars four times in the last month; could they be inquiring about Esa Lindell (LHD), a Finn, in an effort to get a LHD with big upside? Not sure why Dallas would do that, though, given that they have Klingberg and Honka as their RHD of the future - the present, in Klingberg's case - while they may lose Goligoski in UFA and Oduya is no spring chicken on the left side. It'd seem Lindell has more value to Dallas than Pysyk would.

Still, if Pysyk isn't living up to this organization's expectations, who is? Is this going to be another Sekera situation where Pysyk isn't appreciated because he's neither physical nor a point-scoring defenseman, he just gets the puck up ice and drives possession? Depending on the return, I'd seriously re-evaluate my position on Murray if he moves Pysyk.

I'm of a similar mind.

 

[BloFan4Life]

Same thought here. I can't imagine why he'd leave that team.

Florida may not be Florida in two years. Good chance they move.

 

[TehDoak]

Trying to piece together various fragments of information, perhaps Dallas and Buffalo are talking about a deal involving Pysyk? Buffalo has scouted the Texas Stars four times in the last month; could they be inquiring about Esa Lindell (LHD), a Finn, in an effort to get a LHD with big upside? Not sure why Dallas would do that, though, given that they have Klingberg and Honka as their RHD of the future - the present, in Klingberg's case - while they may lose Goligoski in UFA and Oduya is no spring chicken on the left side. It'd seem Lindell has more value to Dallas than Pysyk would.

Still, if Pysyk isn't living up to this organization's expectations, who is? Is this going to be another Sekera situation where Pysyk isn't appreciated because he's neither physical nor a point-scoring defenseman, he just gets the puck up ice and drives possession? Depending on the return, I'd seriously re-evaluate my position on Murray if he moves Pysyk.

I get the Pysyk love....but, let's look at the state of the defense on the right side:

Risto: Long term #1 d-man. Anchor of the blueline
Bogo: 2nd pairing Anchor. Can play Physical brand. Locked up until 2020 with NMC.
Pysyk: In an ideal world, he's a stay at home positional d-man. However, it seems that both Bylsma (Frequent healthy scratch, leads team in Ozone start %) and Murray (sending him to the AHL the entire last season) just don't trust him. Right or Wrong, he's not playing a big role.
Franson: Offensive, bottom pairing d-man on a short term contract.

Given that

A) Cap isn't a an issue
B) We're likely locked into a top 4 of Risto/Bogo for the RHD for the forseeable future

Pysyk is likely considered an expendable asset. If given a choice between Franson or Pysyk, I'd obviously choose Pysyk, however, I don't think Franson has a ton of value currently. I'd certainly be fine with keeping both given Bogo's injury history, however.

 

[Husko]

Can we at the very least not pretend that Pysyk in the AHL last year was anything more than a tank move?

 

[haseoke39]

I get the Pysyk love....but, let's look at the state of the defense on the right side:

Risto: Long term #1 d-man. Anchor of the blueline
Bogo: 2nd pairing Anchor. Can play Physical brand. Locked up until 2020 with NMC.
Pysyk: In an ideal world, he's a stay at home positional d-man. However, it seems that both Bylsma (Frequent healthy scratch, leads team in Ozone start %) and Murray (sending him to the AHL the entire last season) just don't trust him. Right or Wrong, he's not playing a big role.
Franson: Offensive, bottom pairing d-man on a short term contract.

Given that

A) Cap isn't a an issue
B) We're likely locked into a top 4 of Risto/Bogo for the RHD for the forseeable future

Pysyk is likely considered an expendable asset. If given a choice between Franson or Pysyk, I'd obviously choose Pysyk, however, I don't think Franson has a ton of value currently. I'd certainly be fine with keeping both given Bogo's injury history, however.

I think Pysyk v Bogo is a pretty reasonable debate. Pysyk is a year younger and has been the better player most of the year. I'd keep them both unless you were offered the equivalent player or better at LHD.

 

[Tyler2829]

I think Pysyk v Bogo is a pretty reasonable debate. Pysyk is a year younger and has been the better player most of the year. I'd keep them both unless you were offered the equivalent player or better at LHD.

I'd hope this would be the only reason Pysyk would ever be moved.

 

[Zip15]

I think Pysyk v Bogo is a pretty reasonable debate. Pysyk is a year younger and has been the better player most of the year. I'd keep them both unless you were offered the equivalent player or better at LHD.

If we're simply looking at this year's performances, it's not a close debate at all. Pysyk has been by far the better player.

 

[Husko]

If we're simply looking at this year's performances, it's not a close debate at all. Pysyk has been by far the better player.

Yes, completely agree. But, in fairness, he's had easier assignments.

 

[TehDoak]

I think Pysyk v Bogo is a pretty reasonable debate. Pysyk is a year younger and has been the better player most of the year. I'd keep them both unless you were offered the equivalent player or better at LHD.

I'd hope this would be the only reason Pysyk would ever be moved.

If we're simply looking at this year's performances, it's not a close debate at all. Pysyk has been by far the better player.

Pysyk also has been very sheltered. Lowest QoC amongst Sabres D-men, highest o-zone start.

Bogo and Pysyk have been pretty meh in their own zone (both have low on ice sp% 5 on 5). Bogo's return and the PK's improvement aren't a coincidence, however.

Pysyk vs Bogo certainly is a debate that can be had, unfortunately i don't think its an apple to apples comparison simply because Bogo has the coaches confidence and Pysyk doesn't.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Pominville for Moulson. Who is in? Would Minny do it? We could throw a pick back. I think Pommers has more use on a 3rd or 4th line.

 

[Jim Bob]

Pominville for Moulson. Who is in? Would Minny do it? We could throw a pick back. I think Pommers has more use on a 3rd or 4th line.

I've seen at least one Wild fan that was willing to give away Pominville for a used puck bag.

The whole point of moving Pominville from that poster's POV is shedding the contract.

Besides, I doubt you get Moulson to waive. Pominville might.

 

[Jim Bob]

Drouin for Pysyk and a 2nd would be eerily close to Turris for Rundblad and a 2nd.

 

[Zip15]

Yes, completely agree. But, in fairness, he's had easier assignments.

Pysyk also has been very sheltered. Lowest QoC amongst Sabres D-men, highest o-zone start.

Bogo and Pysyk have been pretty meh in their own zone (both have low on ice sp% 5 on 5). Bogo's return and the PK's improvement aren't a coincidence, however.

Pysyk vs Bogo certainly is a debate that can be had, unfortunately i don't think its an apple to apples comparison simply because Bogo has the coaches confidence and Pysyk doesn't.

I'm well aware. Yet virtually all numbers suggest Pysyk should have his role increased while Bogo has his decreased. For me, I think Pysyk's the superior player at ES all else equal.

 

[Zip15]

Also, for the tin foil hats, Pysyk replaced Franson on the 2nd unit PP last night. Maybe it was showcasing Pysyk. Maybe it was because Pysyk is the better defensive player and Ottawa scores a lot of SH goals.

 

[old kummelweck]

I get the Pysyk love....but, let's look at the state of the defense on the right side:

Risto: Long term #1 d-man. Anchor of the blueline
Bogo: 2nd pairing Anchor. Can play Physical brand. Locked up until 2020 with NMC.
Pysyk: In an ideal world, he's a stay at home positional d-man. However, it seems that both Bylsma (Frequent healthy scratch, leads team in Ozone start %) and Murray (sending him to the AHL the entire last season) just don't trust him. Right or Wrong, he's not playing a big role.
Franson: Offensive, bottom pairing d-man on a short term contract.

Given that

A) Cap isn't a an issue
B) We're likely locked into a top 4 of Risto/Bogo for the RHD for the forseeable future

Pysyk is likely considered an expendable asset. If given a choice between Franson or Pysyk, I'd obviously choose Pysyk, however, I don't think Franson has a ton of value currently. I'd certainly be fine with keeping both given Bogo's injury history, however.

This make a lot of sense, actually, though haven't they toyed with Bogo on the left side?

If Pysyk is #3 on the right side, and can't switch to left, then he has a lot of value in bringing in a piece that fits. His upside is top 4, just not on this team. He's an asset with value to get you what you need.

I don't think Murray or Bylsma can really be criticized if a player doesn't beat out the guys at his position.

 

[Husko]

Also, if we trade Pysyk for a winger, I'll hurl.

 

[TehDoak]

Also, if we trade Pysyk for a winger, I'll hurl.

So if we moved Pysyk for Drouin you'd be upset?

 

[Husko]

Pominville for Moulson. Who is in? Would Minny do it? We could throw a pick back. I think Pommers has more use on a 3rd or 4th line.

More money and more term? No thanks. I'd rather just ride out the abysmal Moulson deal. If we're trading Moulson for another bad contract, I want it a scenario where we're taking a contract with more money but less term (and we probably eat some of Moulson's money).

 

[joshjull]

This make a lot of sense, actually, though haven't they toyed with Bogo on the left side?

If Pysyk is #3 on the right side, and can't switch to left, then he has a lot of value in bringing in a piece that fits. His upside is top 4, just not on this team. He's an asset with value to get you what you need.

I don't think Murray or Bylsma can really be criticized if a player doesn't beat out the guys at his position.

Pysyk hasn't been given a chance to beat out anyone in the top 4. Bogo has struggled a lot this year. But his role and minutes have never been in jeopardy

 

[Husko]

So if we moved Pysyk for Drouin you'd be upset?

Very (but I'm also not that high on Drouin [and generally I value dmen much more than wingers {particularly goal scoring wingers}])