My Cozen Dylan
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Kane-Eichel-Ennis
Moulson-Girgensons-Reinhart
Foligno-Grigorenko-Gionta
Deslauriers-Larsson-Kaleta
Zadorov-Ristolainen
Gorges-Bogosian
McCabe-Pysyk
Not counting goaltenders, that's only 5 in the starting roster.
Roster Speculation 2015-16 Pt. III
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Kane-Eichel-Ennis
Moulson-Girgensons-Reinhart
Foligno-Grigorenko-Gionta
Deslauriers-Larsson-Kaleta
Zadorov-Ristolainen
Gorges-Bogosian
McCabe-Pysyk
Not counting goaltenders, that's only 5 in the starting roster.
joshjull
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That's not going to be the starting roster. And even if it was it's still not a U25 roster. Something you threw out there and is obviously not a possibility.
Btw the 25 and older to start the season group would include; Bogo, Hodgson, Ennis, Weber, McCormick, (Kaleta), Moulson, Gorges, Gionta and Chad Johnson.
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brian_griffin
"Eric Cartman?"
Why wouldn't Carolina want to keep Skinner? They need to put fans in seats.
Further, since it's just one year, why wouldn't / couldn't Carolina keep Ward at that salary, regardless of whether or not he's bundled with Skinner?
Skinner is not someone I'd want on BUF until they are a better puck possession and overall defensive team. Skinner helps with neither of those things, and BUF won't make deep playoff runs until they are capable of doing those same things.
Skinner, or players like him, are either finishing pieces once a playoff-capable Sabres roster is developed and proven, or pieces you re-build/build with if/when you have established NHL-caliber center depth who can help cover for him. Skinner's fragility aside, I'd rather have 80% of his production with 50% more defensive responsibility and awareness.
My Cozen Dylan
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When I say U25 I include 25 year olds (Bogo) like World Juniors are U20 and include 20 year olds.
And my opinion of the starting roster has just as much merit as yours so don't act like you are the supreme holder of Sabres knowledge.
struckbyaparkedcar
Guilty of Being Right
What would JVR actually bring to this team?
Consistent offense? Nope. Possession through skill (zone entries)? Nope. Possession through effort (forechecking)? Nope. Defense that abets somebody else's offense? Nope.
Dude sucks.
Article:
Hockey Writers: Who May Be Done With The Sabres?
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I think the Sabres want a core of a certain age group near their best players, but don't know if they really want everyone to fit into that age group. They'd all be hitting their UFA years around the same time. Bad recipe.
A good mix of veterans getting pushed out and rookies pushing up is a way to have more sustainable success, currently exemplified by Chicago, Detroit, Tampa, Anaheim. Gives you more bites at the apple, even if you won't have that 1 or 2 year window of a monstrous cluster of talent just before that payday where the salary cap forces the team to shed some of the high-priced high-talent guys by necessity. It's a question of how best to get on that track.
Hockey Writers: Who May Be Done With The Sabres?
Unassociated Observation:
I think the Sabres want a core of a certain age group near their best players, but don't know if they really want everyone to fit into that age group. They'd all be hitting their UFA years around the same time. Bad recipe.
A good mix of veterans getting pushed out and rookies pushing up is a way to have more sustainable success, currently exemplified by Chicago, Detroit, Tampa, Anaheim. Gives you more bites at the apple, even if you won't have that 1 or 2 year window of a monstrous cluster of talent just before that payday where the salary cap forces the team to shed some of the high-priced high-talent guys by necessity. It's a question of how best to get on that track.
Paxon
202? Stanley Cup Champions
Definitely wouldn't consnider paying close to market value for him. We are fine at wing. I don't get people who think we need to make another Kane acquisition. For a team that's not expected to be a playoff team, Kane, Ennis, Moulson, one of Larsson/Reinhart/Grigorenko, Gionta, Foligno, Deslauriers, whoever I'm forgetting is not a bad group. The difference from last year that needed to be made at forward, above all, was getting an actual group of centers, which we'll have, though young (Girgensons, Eichel, Reinhart/Larsson/Grigorenko), especially after the Kane acquisition.
Paxon
202? Stanley Cup Champions
Splitting hairs here but I'd be surprised if Gorges starts the season going by past microfracture surgery recoveries. Similar predicament with McCormick and his bloodclot.
NEcoli
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The only good reason to get Ward is if they're tanking again. He's been terrible for years.
Djp
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No interest in JVR.
How in the world would Ottawa do that???
Carolina is an interesting bird. Not good enough to contend, not bad enough fully rebuild. They'll almost always be a budget team while Karmanos owns them. Eric Staal is 31 and has 1 year left on his deal. If they trade him does Jordan want to GTFO? Who wants to pay Jordan Staal 6M per for the next 8 years?
What about Semin? Do you pay him another 21M to be on the bench the next 3 seasons?
What astounds me after the absolute trainwreck that Rutherford left in Carolina that he was handed the keys to the most talented roster in the Penguins.
Whats funny, to me at least, is their worst case scenario is Eric Staal having a career year. They make the playoffs as a 7/8 seed then Staal walks. It's kind of what I hope for, because, you know, **** the hurricanes.
Uberpecker
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A thought:
TO Buffalo: TB's 1st round pick, Vinny Lecavalier
To PHL: Cody Hodgson
Philly can then buyout Hodgson using the 26 and under clause.
Buffalo can use lecavalier to help Eichel deal with expectations of being a 18 year old NHL phenom and can center our 4th line and help the PP with his heavy shot.
TO Buffalo: TB's 1st round pick, Vinny Lecavalier
To PHL: Cody Hodgson
Philly can then buyout Hodgson using the 26 and under clause.
Buffalo can use lecavalier to help Eichel deal with expectations of being a 18 year old NHL phenom and can center our 4th line and help the PP with his heavy shot.
Theres no way Philly is giving up a 1st just for us to take on Vinny and buy out another negative value contract.
Husko
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We're going to pay a 4th liner 4.5 million for three seasons? I'm all aboard the "cap space doesn't matter this year" train, but I hope by the time 2018 roles around it does.
The Flyers would save like 250k on the cap and swap one bad contract for another with more term if they pulled the trigger on this trade. They're not giving up a first rounder to do that.
Going on 10 seasons later, I still hate 'em.
I can't believe it's already been almost ten years!
Yeah, **** those guys.
If the used the under 26 buyout on Hodgson, they'd save something like 3.7 M for the next 3 years.
We're going to pay a 4th liner 4.5 million for three seasons? I'm all aboard the "cap space doesn't matter this year" train, but I hope by the time 2018 roles around it does.
Cap space won't be a legitimate issue for a while given that Eichel and Reinhart's ELCs expire the same year Lecavalier's current deal expires.
If Buffalo could add a pick by taking on Vinny's contract, I'm all for it.
True. Hadn't thought of that. Still, I don't think they're going to give up a first round pick for a player and buy him out right away.
We're going to pay a 4th liner 4.5 million for three seasons? I'm all aboard the "cap space doesn't matter this year" train, but I hope by the time 2018 roles around it does.
He's making 6.5 M in salary this year (4.5 + 2M in signing bonus), 3.5 next year, and just 3 in 2017-18. He may simple retire after this year if he's not NHL caliber anymore
brian_griffin
"Eric Cartman?"
I'd be OK with Hodgson for Lecavalier plus Rd1 29/30 if BUF can use the pick to move up earlier than #21. But I don't see Philly offering that, and I don't think BUF would inquire (unless they read these boards and get the idea).
AFAIK, there's no connection between Vinny and any Sabre player or coach / management.
AFAIK, there's no connection between Vinny and any Sabre player or coach / management.
brian_griffin
"Eric Cartman?"
I disagree with Weber on the list. He has more value retained with BUF than in trade, and with the concern over Gorges returning, I don't see BUF having the luxury to move any LHD, regardless. In fact, I think they'll acquire 2 UFA in the offseason.
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