Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

The Real JT · Nov 29, 2023

leeroggy said:
In November, 0G/3A

2G/6A in 22 games

He's fallen

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So something like these 2 guys but at a lesser term and lower AAV?

MJF · Nov 29, 2023

IslesNorway said:
Beauvillier traded to the Blackhawks for a 5th. Seems he must have had a rough time there in Vancouver if his value has fallen that much.

Beauvillier just isn’t a very good player.

Richie Daggers Crime · Nov 29, 2023

The Real JT said:
Revisionist history

JGP had more value so they could’ve kept Raty and flipped him in a different deal.

This is a self-fulfilling premise based on reaching a desired conclusion.

YearlyLottery · Nov 29, 2023

Richie Daggers Crime said:
This is a self-fulfilling premise based on reaching a desired conclusion.

Pageau stopped having value after getting hurt against Tampa in the playoffs. The Isles have him for another two seasons after this one at a pre COVID deal. Raty at the time was 100% more valuable and honestly still is.

crashthenet · Nov 29, 2023

seafoam said:
I’m surprised Lou and Barry haven’t hooked up for a deal yet. The Preds have cap space and lack depth up front, the Islanders need to try and subtract Lee and Pageau at some point.

How about Wahlstrom. Why does he have to go to the bench every time he gets hit. He is like a kid who realizes the other team hits back. Happened again last night.

Tres Peleches · Nov 29, 2023

The fact that Lambert is still here after the constant bullshit is telling

This organization is rotten from the core with a country club attitude, and it starts with Lou

Sparksrus3 · Nov 29, 2023

Tres Peleches said:
The fact that Lambert is still here after the constant bullshit is telling

This organization is rotten from the core with a country club attitude, and it starts with Lou

Any billboards for rent in Elmont ?

duster19 · Nov 30, 2023

leeroggy said:
Mindboggling Stat:

Out of 32 teams, the Islanders have spent the least amount of time trailing in games (10:37 minutes), per MoreHockeyStats.com.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-y...rd-period-devils-lambert-penalties-lamoriello

I’m going to guess we regress here. This magnifies the blown opportunities. They have clearly found ways to lose. They used to be automatic when up or score 3. Mostly the same roster. Somethings not right.

PK Cronin · Nov 30, 2023

duster19 said:
I’m going to guess we regress here. This magnifies the blown opportunities. They have clearly found ways to lose. They used to be automatic when up or score 3. Mostly the same roster. Somethings not right.

When the team is scoring they can't hold a lead. When the team is defensively sound they can't score enough goals. Maddening.

MJF · Nov 30, 2023

PK Cronin said:
When the team is scoring they can't hold a lead. When the team is defensively sound they can't score enough goals. Maddening.

They've always been streaky, going back to Trotz's first year here. They'll tighten up defensively about the same time the power play goals dry up.

Goa1228 · Nov 30, 2023

Dreger: Islanders interested in Hanifin

PK Cronin · Nov 30, 2023

Goa1228 said:
Dreger: Islanders interested in Hanifin

Not sure how they'd fit him.

YearlyLottery · Nov 30, 2023

Goa1228 said:
Dreger: Islanders interested in Hanifin

To me it comes down to will one player teach this group to hold the lead in all these games? I think this squad is going to have to figure it out on their own. This is not a talent issue yet but a commitment issue which we have not seen in the Lou era.

Glory Days · Nov 30, 2023

PK Cronin said:
Not sure how they'd fit him.

I would move Pelech for a signed Hanifin. Isles need to shake up the core.

PK Cronin · Nov 30, 2023

Glory Days said:
I would move Pelech for a signed Hanifin. Isles need to shake up the core.

Pelech has a full no trade clause so he's not going to that shit show.

duster19 · Nov 30, 2023

PK Cronin said:
Not sure how they'd fit him.

How much can another team retain?

I mean w the isles are always connected to big names. Lou definitely checks in on everything as he should.

xECK29x · Nov 30, 2023

duster19 said:
How much can another team retain?

I mean w the isles are always connected to big names. Lou definitely checks in on everything as he should.

Can’t say Lou isn’t in on everyone

SI · Nov 30, 2023

PK Cronin said:
Not sure how they'd fit him.

Flames would have to retain 50% and the trade would have to go down at the TDL so Isles can cash in cap they have accrued to make up the difference.

The only way it can be done NOW - if Isles get a 3rd team to eat some of the cap at least 250k of it.

IMO, the add should be in the top 6 not on the blue line - I know some of you feel otherwise - if they make a move for Hanifin and sign him - probably 8/60- then they could always move Romanov for a similar young player upfront.

duster19 said:
How much can another team retain?

I mean w the isles are always connected to big names. Lou definitely checks in on everything as he should.

50%.

steveat · Dec 1, 2023

Hanafin wants a 50m contract (his next contract)..whether that's 7 years or 8...that's the number he is looking for. Do you want a min 7m cap for the next 7 years?

PK Cronin · Dec 1, 2023

steveat said:
Hanafin wants a 50m contract (his next contract)..whether that's 7 years or 8...that's the number he is looking for. Do you want a min 7m cap for the next 7 years?

Everyone else on this roster is locked in for that long so why not? :laugh:

saintunspecified · Dec 1, 2023

steveat said:
Hanafin wants a 50m contract (his next contract)..whether that's 7 years or 8...that's the number he is looking for. Do you want a min 7m cap for the next 7 years?

It would be worthwhile if NYI could find a cheaper replacement for Pulock.

Kevin27NYI · Dec 1, 2023

Hanafin-Dobson
Pelech-Pulock

Is an insane top 4

PWJunior · Dec 1, 2023

Kevin27nyi said:
Hanafin-Dobson
Pelech-Pulock

Is an insane top 4

While I understand why the Pelech-Pulock was split up, they need to be reunited because they are best when together. Dobson is the new alpha, Hanafin could unlock the next level for Dobber.

A Romo-Mayfield 3rd pair is pretty damned good too.

steveat · Dec 1, 2023

we were literally crying out asking Trotz to split up Pelech and Pulock....now we want them back together!?

Kevin27NYI · Dec 1, 2023

steveat said:
we were literally crying out asking Trotz to split up Pelech and Pulock....now we want them back together!?

Speak for yourself I never wanted that to happen

PWJunior said:
While I understand why the Pelech-Pulock was split up, they need to be reunited because they are best when together. Dobson is the new alpha, Hanafin could unlock the next level for Dobber.

A Romo-Mayfield 3rd pair is pretty damned good too.

Need Pager going the other way, for salary. Then the D is a huge strength again and I like our top 6. If we could find a cheap 3C elsewhere we’re cooking

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