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Now we just need an upgrade from Fasching.
The Real JT
The crowd called out for more
Put me in the camp that Wally should get a longer look in the top 6.
Has he been a disappointment? Yes
Is his ceiling lower than it was a year or 2 ago? Most definitely yes but it’s still higher than our alternatives.
He may ultimately prove to be a poor fit for this team but he has a “plus” skill that is in short supply on this squad.
That skill isn’t there for Holmstrom, Fasching or any other bottom 6 plugs you can think of.
Has he been a disappointment? Yes
Is his ceiling lower than it was a year or 2 ago? Most definitely yes but it’s still higher than our alternatives.
He may ultimately prove to be a poor fit for this team but he has a “plus” skill that is in short supply on this squad.
That skill isn’t there for Holmstrom, Fasching or any other bottom 6 plugs you can think of.
Oliver Wahlstrom is becoming Josh Ho-Sang redux.
Having potential is great and all, but results matter.
Having potential is great and all, but results matter.
IslesNorway
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Wahlstrom has no trade value at all. He might get picked up on waivers, but he really looks like toast.
Doshell Propivo
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His attractive contract (basically league minimum) gives him trade value.
Throttle
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For Dougie Weight hockey, you net Dobson, the rest of that draft is a big nothing burger. Now, it’s what value does Wally get you? A bottom sixer for a first rounder? Or part of trade for an established player?
Certainly looks like Lou showcased Raty as bait for a trade.
Which gives the Isles two paths: play to see what you have and also play to re-establish his value post-injury.
Certainly looks like Lou showcased Raty as bait for a trade.
doublechili
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Not to mention, Wahlstrom is 23 years old, is listed at 6'2", 211 lbs and has 32 goals in 166 NHL games (equivalent to 16 goals per full season). At league minimum, as you said. If he were on another team posters would be clamoring to trade for him.
Mr Misunderstood
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Throttle
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Richie Daggers Crime
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Which is, I'm guessing, why he's been given an opportunity on a team that needs goals. As opposed to Fasching/Gauthier/AHL guy or whatever well meaning, but offensively void option is available.
He's not really hurting you by being on the 3rd line and I'm thinking they're trying to see if he can contribute offensively.
Throttle
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Posters also wanted to resign Lehner too…Not to mention, Wahlstrom is 23 years old, is listed at 6'2", 211 lbs and has 32 goals in 166 NHL games (equivalent to 16 goals per full season). At league minimum, as you said. If he were on another team posters would be clamoring to trade for him.
I think he has gotten his shot and they have seen enough. He isn’t good enough for top six and doesnt play right way to be in bottom six. Holmstrom can probably be bottom six guy and Fasching is better defensively for that bottom six spot. I think sooner than later we will see Iskhakov, then Dufour and Maggio. Wahlstrom is going to be traded or waived sooner than later.
The Real JT
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He’s the change of scenery guy we’d want from another team so I definitely agree with you there.Not to mention, Wahlstrom is 23 years old, is listed at 6'2", 211 lbs and has 32 goals in 166 NHL games (equivalent to 16 goals per full season). At league minimum, as you said. If he were on another team posters would be clamoring to trade for him.
I don’t want to exaggerate my take on him. He may turn out to be a bust or just a bad fit on the Isles. His present day value is low but certainly not zero.
For me, it’s too late to trade him unless you get a similar project returned in a trade or if some other GM (Chia where are you?) is a secret admirer of his.
doublechili
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Sure. I'm not saying we have to keep him, just that he has value. If Lou swaps him for some other player or includes him in a package for something better, so be it.
Top Corner
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Regardless, his skating is just not good enough to be effective on any line
Wahlstrom has Bellows value on trade front , None! He might be a waiver wire pick up that’s all
YearlyLottery
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To be honest JHS was a better hockey player than Wahlstrom. Ho Sang had a different issue and that was his brain. Wahlstrom has sadly been terrible. It can take time for bigger body players to showcase their abilities though. I'm not sure if Wahlstrom has ever been a player who drives the net though so my confidence in him has decreased greatly.
LeapOnOver
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I still want Holmstrom to get another shot. I get the nature of the NHL and how important a good start is, but i really like Holmstrom's game (other than still having a boy body) and i feel like he's just a multigoal game away from confidence and getting into a groove. Wish he had a few more games with Barvat, and hopefully he'll get another shot.
islesfan3913
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I’m not surprised to see Wally out of the lineup. After he fumbled the puck off a rebound which led to Detroit’s second goal in the last game, I fully expected him to be sitting. Wally’s main issue is that his offense hasn’t come close to showing up enough to warrant playing him even in the bottom six with his defensive deficiencies. Someone like Fasching isn’t exactly an offensive downgrade since Wally isn’t a threat but that is a manor defensive upgrade. I thinlk we can for sure upgrade from Fasching, but as of right now he is the much better option and fit for our team IMO.
Duanesutter12
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Garf would've been all over that back in the day!Not to mention, Wahlstrom is 23 years old, is listed at 6'2", 211 lbs and has 32 goals in 166 NHL games (equivalent to 16 goals per full season). At league minimum, as you said. If he were on another team posters would be clamoring to trade for him.
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
Yeah, I was going to refute the idea that he had any trade value by comparing him to Liam Foudy in the same draft class who was put on waivers. Then I looked at Wahlstrom's numbers compared to Foudy's and deleted what I wrote, lol. Wahlstrom has been way more productive than Foudy. Wahlstrom's ppg isn't that far off from Lafreniere's actually.Not to mention, Wahlstrom is 23 years old, is listed at 6'2", 211 lbs and has 32 goals in 166 NHL games (equivalent to 16 goals per full season). At league minimum, as you said. If he were on another team posters would be clamoring to trade for him.
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The sad part is all we are talking about here are guys like Wally, Holmstrom, Fasching, Gauthier who are all AT BEST a bottom six forward - IF THAT.
To me, Fasching, Gauthier are 4th liners - Holmstrom ceiling is a 3rd line guy.
Let's not mention that Lee and Martin should not even have a spot on this roster.
And if you really thing about our defense, Pelech and Pullock are not the same players. Mayfield is done. Romanov is a frustrating player.
Goes to my point, we need to rebuild now before we waste the prime years of Brazal, Dobson - nevermind how we are wasting away Sorokin's talent.
This is why it was so important for ownership to move away from Lou this year and bring in a young GM who understands the way NHL rosters need to be now and who has new refreshing ideas on building a team/roster from an OLD, SLOW, FRIED ROSTER.
And as a diehard isles fan, I would accept us taking steps backwards for a few years if that means we build this team the right way
To me, Fasching, Gauthier are 4th liners - Holmstrom ceiling is a 3rd line guy.
Let's not mention that Lee and Martin should not even have a spot on this roster.
And if you really thing about our defense, Pelech and Pullock are not the same players. Mayfield is done. Romanov is a frustrating player.
Goes to my point, we need to rebuild now before we waste the prime years of Brazal, Dobson - nevermind how we are wasting away Sorokin's talent.
This is why it was so important for ownership to move away from Lou this year and bring in a young GM who understands the way NHL rosters need to be now and who has new refreshing ideas on building a team/roster from an OLD, SLOW, FRIED ROSTER.
And as a diehard isles fan, I would accept us taking steps backwards for a few years if that means we build this team the right way
Doshell Propivo
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A conversation about Wahlstrom turns into "rebuild now" and "Lou must go." Sigh.
I think (and apparently so does management/ownership) that this team still has some playoff runs left in them. A rebuild may bring us closer to a cup down the road but obviously that is not guaranteed. What would be guaranteed is ZERO playoff runs and ZERO playoffs in the near term. Probably 4-5 years. Essentially giving up on Sorokin's, Barzal's, Dobson's, Romanov's, Engvall's prime years. We all want to build the team "the right way." But whatever you (or the new GM) feel is right way, may ultimately result in a peak that is not as good as what we had/have with this core. The risk to rebuild now outweighs the reward IMO.
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