Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[Chapin Landvogt]

If they do sign O’Brien or Farinacci, I wonder where they fit in on the prospect watch? Are they stronger prospects than Dufour? Bolduc? Holmstrom?

Honestly, I don't think O'Brien (the most defensively aware of the three), Farinacci (the most pro-ready of the three), or Mastrosimone (the most skilled of the three) move the needle much on the prospect front in the sense of shaking the tree.

If you add one, you've got more organizational depth and are taking a shot at a former first rounder (who everyone felt went too soon) and two midrounders who performed like you wish of top 60 picks. I'd see any of the three as one of our top 6 or 7 options moving forward, but none of them would suddenly be a "bluechipper" in the system.

I do think that O'Brien has a lot of "late bloomer" potential in a Pageau-style role. That's MHO. Things went far too quick for him those first few years.

 

[saintunspecified]

I do think that O'Brien has a lot of "late bloomer" potential in a Pageau-style role. That's MHO. Things went far too quick for him those first few years.

I don't know enough about O'Brien, other than he has good speed + agility, and has trouble scoring. The question I have would be whether he's really a center. NYI don't have a defensive center in the system, and I wouldn't mind adding one.

 

[NYI365]

Curious about LI native and Isles fan growing up Mastrosimone and whether or not Lou has any interest

 

[Doshell Propivo]

We will surely see this year won't we? That's why they play the games. I surely hope this team can be a top 4 seed in the East, but if they're struggling to make the playoffs once again in the spring of 2024, I'm almost excited to see the way some fans will justify that is ok.

Glad you're finally admitting it. There are a quite a few of you that get all giddy when the team is losing.

 

[Osakahaus]

Curious about LI native and Isles fan growing up Mastrosimone and whether or not Lou has any interest

Probably none unless he throws him to the AHL

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Glad you're finally admitting it. There are a quite a few of you that get all giddy when the team is losing.

When the team is bad, there's futures to be excited about... for the future. It's an empty vessel that you can fill with your own hopes and dreams in order to fulfill the narrative in your mind. It's a self-replicating formula to feel good about things.

 

[leeroggy]

When the team is bad, there's futures to be excited about... for the future. It's an empty vessel that you can fill with your own hopes and dreams in order to fulfill the narrative in your mind. It's a self-replicating formula to feel good about things.

Like marriage!

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Like marriage!

Self-delusion comes in many forms.

 

[Throttle]

When the team is bad, there's futures to be excited about... for the future. It's an empty vessel that you can fill with your own hopes and dreams in order to fulfill the narrative in your mind. It's a self-replicating formula to feel good about things.

Post of the summer (well, there’s a bunch of other gems out there too). Don’t forget the projections…

 

[JJ18Sniper]

Eklund fun:

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Leafs and Isles working Nylander Deal (e4)

www.hockeybuzz.com

 

[Lek]

about 3-1/2 days between posts....must be some sort of a notable record.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Eklund fun:

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Leafs and Isles working Nylander Deal (e4)

www.hockeybuzz.com

Just to entrtain..

Pretending it's Pageau for Nylander and not much more in terms of roster players

Lee-Barzal-Whally
Engvall-Nelson-Palmieri
Faching-Horvat-Nylander
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck

Would be a pretty insane lineup depth wise.

 

[doublechili]

Eklund fun:

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Leafs and Isles working Nylander Deal (e4)

www.hockeybuzz.com

This is like the 6th time he's posted this same rumor. It's either legit, or it's the result of some hit-generation algorithm.

 

[iggy]

Just to entrtain..

Pretending it's Pageau for Nylander and not much more in terms of roster players

Lee-Barzal-Whally
Engvall-Nelson-Palmieri
Faching-Horvat-Nylander
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck

Would be a pretty insane lineup depth wise.

Horvat AND Nylander on the 3rd line? Ridiculous. Barzal still has no wingers that can handle his playmaking.

 

[leeroggy]

Horvat AND Nylander on the 3rd line? Ridiculous. Barzal still has no wingers that can handle his playmaking.

We make that trade and THAT’S what you complain about?

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Eklund fun:

HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - Leafs and Isles working Nylander Deal (e4)

www.hockeybuzz.com

Sounds good to me. When's this getting done?

 

[Seph]

Horvat AND Nylander on the 3rd line? Ridiculous. Barzal still has no wingers that can handle his playmaking.

There wouldn't be a true 3rd line in this scenario. Top 3 lines would each play about 14-15min of 5v5 per game, and then the 4th line would actually play 4th line minutes.

And last season, the line of Lee-Barzal-Wahlstrom produce goals at a rate of 4.15/60 min, which is a very good rate. For comparison, it was only a hair behind Tkachuk-Bennett-Verhaeghe (4.16) and a little ahead of Robertson-Pavelski-Hintz (4.08), which is great company to be in. Granted, it's not a huge sample size (only 43 minutes together), but based on what we have seen of that line together, there is reason to believe it would produce well.

But it's an Eklund rumor, so the point is almost certainly moot, since we know it is probably won't actually happen.

 

[SI]

There wouldn't be a true 3rd line in this scenario. Top 3 lines would each play about 14-15min of 5v5 per game, and then the 4th line would actually play 4th line minutes.

And last season, the line of Lee-Barzal-Wahlstrom produce goals at a rate of 4.15/60 min, which is a very good rate. For comparison, it was only a hair behind Tkachuk-Bennett-Verhaeghe (4.16) and a little ahead of Robertson-Pavelski-Hintz (4.08), which is great company to be in. Granted, it's not a huge sample size (only 43 minutes together), but based on what we have seen of that line together, there is reason to believe it would produce well.

But it's an Eklund rumor, so the point is almost certainly moot, since we know it is probably won't actually happen.

Agreed.

The Cap implications for both also make this very difficult- this could be a TDL move with a third team being involved because Toronto will need to get something back that helps them now - for example,
Nylander to Isles, then assets flipped to Philly for Konecny to Toronto… Flyers grab the futures.

 

[Big L]

Someone’s having fun in Wikipedia

William Andrew Michael Junior Nylander Altelius (born 1 May 1996) is a Canadian-born Swedish professional ice hockeyright winger for the New York Islanders of the National Hockey League (NHL). Nylander was selected by the Maple Leafs in the first round, eighth overall, of the 2014 NHL Entry Draft.

New York Islanders​

On August 19th 2023, Nylander was traded to the New York Islanders in exchange for forward Jean-Gabriel Pageau.

William Nylander - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

updated: it has been changed back

 

[Sparksrus3]

Sounds good to me. When's this getting done?

It would get done after we added Pelech or Pulock to the deal.

 

[Lek]

Someone’s having fun in Wikipedia

William Andrew Michael Junior Nylander Altelius (born 1 May 1996) is a Canadian-born Swedish professional ice hockeyright winger for the New York Islanders of the National Hockey League (NHL). Nylander was selected by the Maple Leafs in the first round, eighth overall, of the 2014 NHL Entry Draft.

New York Islanders​

On August 19th 2023, Nylander was traded to the New York Islanders in exchange for forward Jean-Gabriel Pageau.

William Nylander - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

updated: it has been changed back

Damn it LOU!!!...stop screwing with the Wiki pages!!!

 

[GordieHowYaDoin]

Hey guys, not an Isles fan but here to ask about Noah Dobson for fantasy reasons. Whats the consensus on which pairing he'll be on this coming season? 21k comments in this threas is a lot to go through. Great to see a ton of engagement from the fans here! I did see DFO have him projected on the 3rd pairing at one point this summer and now they've updated it to the 2nd. Is he not 1st Pairing material and any chance for PP time?
Thanks in advance and have a great day.

 

[MJF]

Hey guys, not an Isles fan but here to ask about Noah Dobson for fantasy reasons. Whats the consensus on which pairing he'll be on this coming season? 21k comments in this threas is a lot to go through. Great to see a ton of engagement from the fans here! I did see DFO have him projected on the 3rd pairing at one point this summer and now they've updated it to the 2nd. Is he not 1st Pairing material and any chance for PP time?
Thanks in advance and have a great day.

My guess is Dobson starts the season paired with Sebastian Aho, so as not to rock the boat with the way the D pairs were in the last 2 months of the season. Dobson will also get plenty of power play time so keep that in mind.

 

[Taswell]

Hey guys, not an Isles fan but here to ask about Noah Dobson for fantasy reasons. Whats the consensus on which pairing he'll be on this coming season? 21k comments in this threas is a lot to go through. Great to see a ton of engagement from the fans here! I did see DFO have him projected on the 3rd pairing at one point this summer and now they've updated it to the 2nd. Is he not 1st Pairing material and any chance for PP time?
Thanks in advance and have a great day.

He will be 2nd pairing until the day Pulock-Pelech is broken up. He will receive ample PP time as long as he doesn't shit the bed, in which case Aho would probably steal some of that TOI.

 

[Sparksrus3]

Hey guys, not an Isles fan but here to ask about Noah Dobson for fantasy reasons. Whats the consensus on which pairing he'll be on this coming season? 21k comments in this threas is a lot to go through. Great to see a ton of engagement from the fans here! I did see DFO have him projected on the 3rd pairing at one point this summer and now they've updated it to the 2nd. Is he not 1st Pairing material and any chance for PP time?
Thanks in advance and have a great day.

3rd pair and first pp unit. ( I said unit hee hee)