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periferal said:
Yeah...? So then how come Lou came to this "dumpster fire"?

Unless you think that Lou only came here because no other franchise would've given him the complete autonomy that the Isles did, then we need to give Malkin more credit here. We'll know for sure when we see who Malkin replaces Lou with whenever that happens, but given all that's gone on on-ice and off it over the past 5+ years it's all Malkin steering the ship.
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Because he liked Malkin, was wooed by him and, most importantly, given 100% absolute control and an apparent blank cheque book.
 
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periferal said:
Yeah...? So then how come Lou came to this "dumpster fire"?

Unless you think that Lou only came here because no other franchise would've given him the complete autonomy that the Isles did, then we need to give Malkin more credit here. We'll know for sure when we see who Malkin replaces Lou with whenever that happens, but given all that's gone on on-ice and off it over the past 5+ years it's all Malkin steering the ship.
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You nailed it, Lamoriello was given the autonomy to fix the dumpster fire, why wouldn't he take that opportunity? Malkin deserves credit for bringing in an actual GM/President who knows what they're doing. We can quibble about specific moves or what we'd like to see done differently but Lamoriello is a professional, has a tremendous track record, and has helped turn this franchise around.

We shouldn't be giving Malkin credit and Trotz credit but skipping Lamoriello. It's very plausible, and likely, that Trotz sits out a year if Snow is GM and not Lamoriello. They all deserve to be recognized. Nobody should be short changing Malkin, he turned the on-ice product around and got a new arena done when almost everyone thought it'd be impossible. He's also gotten another outdoor game and has a draft/all-star game lined up after the completion of the retail village at Belmont.

These past six seasons or so have been the most stable and enjoyable I've ever had in my lifetime. I hate that we spend our time arguing over who deserves the most credit.
 
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CupHolders said:
To be clear I agree with everything you wrote. I’m not sure if you were just reiterating the point or didn’t follow the previous posts? I was merely countering the suggestion of the Isles worse off due to what Lou has done.

Maybe they fail to win a cup (likely… since it isn’t easy to do). But I’m not going to discount how important the past 4/5 seasons have been to get this organization to where it is now.
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Im stating that i'm not really worried about a rebuild since this won't be like previous regimes. The only fear I have is that Bridgeport never fires Thompson
 
PK Cronin said:
You nailed it, Lamoriello was given the autonomy to fix the dumpster fire, why wouldn't he take that opportunity? Malkin deserves credit for bringing in an actual GM/President who knows what they're doing. We can quibble about specific moves or what we'd like to see done differently but Lamoriello is a professional, has a tremendous track record, and has helped turn this franchise around.

We shouldn't be giving Malkin credit and Trotz credit but skipping Lamoriello. It's very plausible, and likely, that Trotz sits out a year if Snow is GM and not Lamoriello. They all deserve to be recognized. Nobody should be short changing Malkin, he turned the on-ice product around and got a new arena done when almost everyone thought it'd be impossible. He's also gotten another outdoor game and has a draft/all-star game lined up after the completion of the retail village at Belmont.

These past six seasons or so have been the most stable and enjoyable I've ever had in my lifetime. I hate that we spend our time arguing over who deserves the most credit.
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And I honestly feel relieved knowing that I don't have to study every prospect rigoriously. The isles have been drafting...okay as of late also? Sure some guys aren't here yet, but I trust Lamoriello enough with some of these futures.
 
JKP said:
Because he liked Malkin, was wooed by him and, most importantly, given 100% absolute control and an apparent blank cheque book.
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Right...And if Malkin can "woo" Lou, then he can woo another high profile executive...Who can bring on another high profile coach.
 
periferal said:
Right...And if Malkin can "woo" Lou, then he can woo another high profile executive...Who can bring on another high profile coach.
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All I can think of, hopefully I'm not alone.



But yes, Malkin can definitely do that if he continues to operate how he has been so far. If he starts meddling we'll have a problem but I don't think he actually cares about doing that so I'm not worried. There does need to be a high profile executive that's good and another high profile coach that's good available though and that doesn't always align.
 
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doublechili said:
Wait, what?! We liquidated Bridgeport?! Traded all our prospects?!?! Aren't growing any vegetables?!?!?!
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Funny you should say so. Thanks to advanced metrics the Islanders are on the forefront of the vertical farming trend. Live shot from Bridgeport…

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Throttle said:
Pagnotta back on the Varly and Bailey train from last time around when they were supposedly being shopped and ready to be traded…
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Pagnotta is just a b*tch to deal with anyways. Didn't he say the isles were gonna sign Kadri too?
 
Osakahaus said:

I still don't rule out Chicago for Bailey+Johnston
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$6.1 million off the cap if these two are moved without salary coming back would be huge but can't see either going out without some $$ coming back, although to CHI maybe there's a deal to be made there with minimal salary coming back
 
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NYI365 said:
$6.1 million off the cap if these two are moved without salary coming back would be huge but can't see either going out without some $$ coming back, although to CHI maybe there's a deal to be made there with minimal salary coming back
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Hey, if we can get someone like Khaira back, I would have zero problems.
 
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Amazing how a team like Vegas can make moves like this yearly while we're stuck with underperforming guys like Palmieri and Bailey. So tired of the same offseasons year after year.
 
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