Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[PK Cronin]

What about Julien, I could see him as candidate. I do think something is up considering Lou snd Lane haven’t said anything. Who conducted the exit interviews, had to be Lou I’d imagine even if he’s going to give uo the GM role. Players never said anything and don’t think anyone asked them.

Wasn't he fired by Lamoriello during his only season coaching the Devils? Not sure how that relationship is. I could see a retread for him or Julien wanting nothing to do with him. I don't know enough about that situation to speculate.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Wasn't he fired by Lamoriello during his only season coaching the Devils? Not sure how that relationship is. I could see a retread for him or Julien wanting nothing to do with him. I don't know enough about that situation to speculate.

i could see him, Lou never seemed to be a grudge guy as he has rehired guys, traded for players after he has traded them etc. I don’t know about how Julien feels but if he wants to coach in league again I can’t imagine he’d say no.

 

[Osakahaus]

What are you worried about...?

That things might change....Or they might stay the same?

That they stay the same

 

[BelovedIsles]

I'd take Gallant over Lane. His short window with teams aligns with NYI's current winning aspirations.

 

[NYI365]

If Lou remains I can see Tarasenko signing here easily if Bailey is moved, Varly stays, and the necessary cap space gets worked out. He's 31 so I can see a 4-5 year deal being what he commands as a UFA.

His family's already in NY, Sorokin, Varly, Romanov already here. Need for a shooter without giving up any assets, fits the bill of an older Lou guy. Almost makes too much sense

 

[LeapOnOver]

He took the Rangers to the conference final last season

blind squirrel nut syndrome

Lou is sleeping?

You have time, you use it. He's got at least 5 months, lol. My guess is Lane has already been fired and we'll find out in September

 

[LeapOnOver]

He looks like a cross between Kevin James and Hannibal Lecter.

I'm guessing you mean Anthony Hopkins, lol.

 

[IslesNorway]

If Lou remains I can see Tarasenko signing here easily if Bailey is moved, Varly stays, and the necessary cap space gets worked out. He's 31 so I can see a 4-5 year deal being what he commands as a UFA.

His family's already in NY, Sorokin, Varly, Romanov already here. Need for a shooter without giving up any assets, fits the bill of an older Lou guy. Almost makes too much sense

The last thing this team needs is another 30+ player on big money. What they need is to get younger, faster and more skilled. Sure, Tarasenko is a fine player but their cap problems are very, very real for the next few years.

It's not as simple as moving Bailey out and replacing him with another player in the same salary bracket. They need for find new homes for several other players as well. Martin, Clutterbuck, Lee, Palmieri and Pageau should all be gone off this roster if they are to improve. But at the same time they need to be replaced by other players making considerably less and scoring more. It's a bloody hard thing to do, but to keep on signing 30+ guys or trading away 1st round picks and prospects only ensures we're treading water...at best.

At worst, we're back in the dark ages very, very soon.

 

[LeapOnOver]

The last thing this team needs is another 30+ player on big money. What they need is to get younger, faster and more skilled. Sure, Tarasenko is a fine player but their cap problems are very, very real for the next few years.

It's not as simple as moving Bailey out and replacing him with another player in the same salary bracket. They need for find new homes for several other players as well. Martin, Clutterbuck, Lee, Palmieri and Pageau should all be gone off this roster if they are to improve. But at the same time they need to be replaced by other players making considerably less and scoring more. It's a bloody hard thing to do, but to keep on signing 30+ guys or trading away 1st round picks and prospects only ensures we're treading water...at best.

At worst, we're back in the dark ages very, very soon.

But they are special and still believe in themselves.

 

[NYI365]

The last thing this team needs is another 30+ player on big money. What they need is to get younger, faster and more skilled. Sure, Tarasenko is a fine player but their cap problems are very, very real for the next few years.

It's not as simple as moving Bailey out and replacing him with another player in the same salary bracket. They need for find new homes for several other players as well. Martin, Clutterbuck, Lee, Palmieri and Pageau should all be gone off this roster if they are to improve. But at the same time they need to be replaced by other players making considerably less and scoring more. It's a bloody hard thing to do, but to keep on signing 30+ guys or trading away 1st round picks and prospects only ensures we're treading water...at best.

At worst, we're back in the dark ages very, very soon.

Should've clarified it's not what I exactly "Want" to see happen, moreso it's just something I can definitely see happening based on the recent history of this teams construction by the old man up top.

 

[saintunspecified]

Damn. I didn’t know about a DUI. That’s a shame.

It's such a Florida story. He made an obviously bad decision all while his wife was telling him not to do it. The cop watched him pull away drunk in a golf cart. Oy vey.

Devils associate coach Andrew Brunette charged with DUI

Authorities say New Jersey Devils associate coach and former Florida Panthers head coach Andrew Brunette has been arrested in South Florida while driving home from a bar in his golf cart.

apnews.com

I really kind of doubt Laviolette would be interested coaching another aging team that could easily teeter on the edge of a rebuild.

Of the non-recycled variety, the name that seems interesting to me is Jay Leach, who was a finalist, but didn't get the Boston job.

 

[NC 1972]

It's such a Florida story. He made an obviously bad decision all while his wife was telling him not to do it. The cop watched him pull away drunk in a golf cart. Oy vey.

Devils associate coach Andrew Brunette charged with DUI

Authorities say New Jersey Devils associate coach and former Florida Panthers head coach Andrew Brunette has been arrested in South Florida while driving home from a bar in his golf cart.

apnews.com

I really kind of doubt Laviolette would be interested coaching another aging team that could easily teeter on the edge of a rebuild.

Of the non-recycled variety, the name that seems interesting to me is Jay Leach, who was a finalist, but didn't get the Boston job.

Don't know anything about the guy, do you think a team comprised of aging veterans would listen to a rookie coach? Not being an ass here, serious question.

 

[doublechili]

I'm guessing you mean Anthony Hopkins, lol.

Actually just Hannibal Lecter. Anthony Hopkins doesn't physically resemble Gallant, but in that role he adds the necessary element of suppressed psycho that Gallant has going.

 

[doublechili]

Not a serious proposal, but I wonder if the NYR would take Anders Lee in a swap for Panarin? That would be ironic.

 

[saintunspecified]

Don't know anything about the guy, do you think a team comprised of aging veterans would listen to a rookie coach? Not being an ass here, serious question.

I don't know. But if that's a big concern, it's probably better to keep Lambert.

The more the Kraken advance, the better Leach will look.

I'm not wowed by any of the names out there. I wouldn't look forward to the dissonance involved in having JQ as a coach (I don't think he'd come here anyway). NYI can lose in the first round with or without Bruce Boudreau, and he's not a LL type coach. Lavy would fit, but not a whole lot of excitement there.

Interesting that Sullivan's extension *starts* next season, after the front office is fired! I assume he'll be the coach in Pittsburgh for at least 1 more season. If there's some scenario where he's free, I think he would be an excellent choice. FTR I blame a lot of the Penguins failures on their below-average goaltending.

 

[MJF]

I'm not wowed by any of the names out there. I wouldn't look forward to the dissonance involved in having JQ as a coach (I don't think he'd come here anyway). NYI can lose in the first round with or without Bruce Boudreau, and he's not a LL type coach. Lavy would fit, but not a whole lot of excitement there.

My guess is that, for you, no coach will wow you since we’ve seen what the bulk of the vets on our roster are capable of. I think we plateaued with them and we’re now going nowhere fast, unless Lou comes in with a change in philosophy of what kind of team wins in the NHL now.

 

[saintunspecified]

My guess is that, for you, no coach will wow you since we’ve seen what the bulk of the vets on our roster are capable of. I think we plateaued with them and we’re now going nowhere fast, unless Lou comes in with a change in philosophy of what kind of team wins in the NHL now.

Except for Mike Sullivan. The list of defensemen he improved is pretty amazing: Justin Schultz, Trevor Daley, Ian Cole, Cody Ceci, Mike Matheson ... that's not even giving him credit for the young defensemen he helped develop like Dumoulin, and Marino. This is a guy who absolutely maximized his talent. Maybe Trotz already did all the work Sullivan could do. But I think Sullivan's recent record is unfair to him as a coach.

 

[periferal]

The last thing this team needs is another 30+ player on big money. What they need is to get younger, faster and more skilled. Sure, Tarasenko is a fine player but their cap problems are very, very real for the next few years.

100% on target, but the way to get "younger, faster, and more skilled" is almost always done through the draft....And Lou keeps trading our picks away. You think you're going to see guys like Zegras, Byfield, Beniers, Power, etc hit the trade wire? Not a shot. Trading talented players almost never happens unless it's part of a deal for a superstar.

Given how few top assets we have to trade (and the fact we actually need to move contracts), I'd say one of the few ways to actually improve the roster is going to be through FA. However Lou, or whomever is GM, would be better served to find cheaper options who outproduce their contract like Parise as opposed to bloated contracts that will only hurt us in 2-3 years.

It's not as simple as moving Bailey out and replacing him with another player in the same salary bracket. They need for find new homes for several other players as well. Martin, Clutterbuck, Lee, Palmieri and Pageau should all be gone off this roster if they are to improve. But at the same time they need to be replaced by other players making considerably less and scoring more. It's a bloody hard thing to do, but to keep on signing 30+ guys or trading away 1st round picks and prospects only ensures we're treading water...at best.

Agree, but again to the point above...Most of those players have little to no value so how are you trading them, much less improving the team when you do.

At worst, we're back in the dark ages very, very soon.

Sadly and scarily...This is becoming increasingly likely with each deal, and coach hired, that Lou makes. Legit don't understand why anyone needs to see any more of his work. The Isles a window is basically shut and with each transaction Lou makes he seems to seal it shut further.

 

[periferal]

Don't know anything about the guy, do you think a team comprised of aging veterans would listen to a rookie coach? Not being an ass here, serious question.

I think they would if...


1) That coach really knew what he was doing/commanded respect. That said, going from Trotz to Lambert seemed like a bridge too far.
2) I read an article around when Lambert was hired quoting NHL execs/players and they said the hardest thing for a new coach is when he goes from an assistant coach to head coach on the same team. In the article people were saying that it's hard for the players to fully respect the coach when they knew him as an assistant first all these years.

 

[SI90]

This whole let me be mysterious and silent act is getting tiresome. I respect a GM not talking specifics about negotiations and deals but you have to address the media and fans after the season ends. It’s standard procedure for every major professional sports organization. I’m thrilled with Ledecky and Malkin as owners but I’m beyond frustrated as an isles fan right now.

 

[SI90]

100% on target, but the way to get "younger, faster, and more skilled" is almost always done through the draft....And Lou keeps trading our picks away. You think you're going to see guys like Zegras, Byfield, Beniers, Power, etc hit the trade wire? Not a shot. Trading talented players almost never happens unless it's part of a deal for a superstar.

It’s also frustrating we’re not more active in the high end College UFAs and European prospects. With our cupboard so bare and basically no first round picks we should be one of the most aggressive teams in going after “free” players prospects.

Yes they don’t always pan out but they’re certainly worth the shot.

Valterri Pulli may never play in the NHL but a 22 year old 6’6 blue liner who can skate and has been playing pro is exactly the targets we need to make a priority in trying to sign.

 

[SRBisles]

This whole let me be mysterious and silent act is getting tiresome. I respect a GM not talking specifics about negotiations and deals but you have to address the media and fans after the season ends. It’s standard procedure for every major professional sports organization. I’m thrilled with Ledecky and Malkin as owners but I’m beyond frustrated as an isles fan right now.

It’s so tired and overplayed at this point. If you’re winning it’s one thing but the whole “mysterious” keeping fans in the dark thing is really a slap in the face to the people who care about this team especially after two subpar seasons.

 

[SI90]

A couple of guys that still may be worth a look

Gregori Dronov- Big Strong LHD defensive dman KHL

Samuel Johanneson- 5’11 RHD puck moving defensman more on the offensive side.

There’s a lot more but these guys caught my eye

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It’s so tired and overplayed at this point. If you’re winning it’s one thing but the whole “mysterious” keeping fans in the dark thing is really a slap in the face to the people who care about this team especially after two subpar seasons.

100% and I think Overplayed is a great word to use.

 

[Lame Lambert]

This whole let me be mysterious and silent act is getting tiresome. I respect a GM not talking specifics about negotiations and deals but you have to address the media and fans after the season ends. It’s standard procedure for every major professional sports organization. I’m thrilled with Ledecky and Malkin as owners but I’m beyond frustrated as an isles fan right now.

It’s a f***ing joke at this point. Malkin and Ledecky should be forcing him to make a statement about the direction of this team.

 

[seafoam]

It’s a f***ing joke at this point. Malkin and Ledecky should be forcing him to make a statement about the direction of this team.

It’s clear that he’s waiting for someone to shake loose.