Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

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I can't reiterate enough (mostly out of frustration, so forgive me). This team is going to struggle to get that extra goal for a point or two on a consistent enough basis. Lou missed the window, yet again, to improve the offense. This is a team with a strong D and G, add offense to that, and you likely have a team that can vie for a top-2 Metro spot. If cap space was/is the barrier, that's on him. He signed most of this roster (sans Bailey). He should have addressed the cap going into the draft to set himself up for 'hockey trades,' and more importantly, UFAs.
 
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I can't reiterate enough (mostly out of frustration, so forgive me). This team is going to struggle to get that extra goal for a point or two on a consistent enough basis. Lou missed the window, yet again, to improve the offense. This is a team with a strong D and G, add offense to that, and you likely have a team that can vie for a top-2 Metro spot. If cap space was/is the barrier, that's on him. He signed most of this roster (sans Bailey). He should have addressed the cap going into the draft to set himself up for 'hockey trades,' and more importantly, UFAs.

That could have been the route he took.

Maybe most GMs would have taken that route.

Lou is not most GMs. That we've learned.

He's got a lot of forwards here who A) had down years last season and B) are at that stage in their development where the next step has to come.

He decided to give this group another chance to do what they did three years in a row. In addition, some of those slumping forwards (namely Palmieri, Parise, Bailey, and Pageau) had MUCH better second halves to the season.

Now his neck is on the line that this gamble works. I think we all know that he surely was trying to add, but simply "failed" in doing so, likely because we were in a situation where the only guys teams were willing to take either weren't on the market or we'd be raked over the coals for 'em.

As you mentioned, that's ultimately on him to be in that situation.

But maybe this simply is the way to go, what with a new coach and a team that's built from the goaltender out.

I personally see this team etching out more 2-1, 3-2 style victories. In addition, if they rebound enough up front to average 3 goals a game, then there'll be plenty of wins this season.

But from the get-go, the bet is on the forward group rebounding and those who need to take a next step, well, taking that next step.
 
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I wonder if he’d want to as well. He was terrific in the playoffs. Isles may want Skarek to get the minutes though.
The fact he hasn’t signed anywhere after the year he had makes me think he has a handshake deal in place with Lou. He knows he isn’t getting a backup job. He is an AHL player now. I think another team would’ve locked him up to mentor a prospect in the A by︅ now. Makes me think he returns. I’d be shocked if he retires after the best year he has had in a long long time.
 
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Didn’t know where to put this so I’ll just drop it here.
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It’s hard as a fan to be overly optimistic about an underperforming offense that’s done nothing to upgrade its talent pool in the offseason.

If the game plan is to expect multiplayer bounce back performances and no major injuries while a number of players are at an age where performance regression is a distinct possibility, well then I’m not holding my breath. Did I also mention that our lack of team speed on offense wasn’t addressed?

On a more positive note, the D and goaltending have elite potential so I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
 
Coming into the offseason we all agreed that our biggest issue was goal scoring. Coming off back to back ECF appearances we all knew the issue was goal scoring. And now we don't have the architect of those 2 ECF's behind the bench.

He kneecapped Lambert. But more importantly was unable to upgrade the offense over the past 2 offseasons. It's 100% on Lou. All of it.

It's BS to say a bunch of guys in their late 20s and early 30s need to take the 'next step'. Total crock of shit. These guys have all developed.

You're relying entirely on two of Wahly, Bellows and Beau to become 20-35 goal a year guys overnight, and that's assuming our defense is exactly as good as it was when Trotz was in charge. Even if Palms improves this year (which I expect), it's still not enough total goals to win a cup in my view.
 
Bundle of optimism I see this Am. Isles have the league right where they want them. October cant get here fast enough. I have an idea, let's all read the ragy hype train the next few weeks.
I can’t help but agree even though I’m a contributor to the “optimism” posted today.

As far as the Rags go, I see regression in my crystal ball. If there’s an over/under for Kreider goals anywhere just lmk. He’s gonna fall hard.
 
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Coming into the offseason we all agreed that our biggest issue was goal scoring. Coming off back to back ECF appearances we all knew the issue was goal scoring. And now we don't have the architect of those 2 ECF's behind the bench.

He kneecapped Lambert. But more importantly was unable to upgrade the offense over the past 2 offseasons. It's 100% on Lou. All of it.

It should and will be if this team isn't considerably better this season. His eggs are all in this one "trust-the-men-in-that-room" basket.

It's BS to say a bunch of guys in their late 20s and early 30s need to take the 'next step'. Total crock of shit. These guys have all developed.

I don't think anyone's saying the older guys need to take the next step.

Wahlstrom, Bellows, and even Barzal and Beau need to take the next step.

A few of the vets do however need to rebound. They started to over the second half last season.

You're relying entirely on two of Wahly, Bellows and Beau to become 20-35 goal a year guys overnight, and that's assuming our defense is exactly as good as it was when Trotz was in charge. Even if Palms improves this year (which I expect), it's still not enough total goals to win a cup in my view.

If this team heads into the trade deadline looking like a real contender, you can bet your bottom dollar that Lou will be adding. We have recent history to lean on here with respect to that taking place.

I also don't think the team is "relying" on two of those boys potting 20-35 goals, but with the overall talent they bring to the table, there's absolutely no reason why Beau and Wahlstrom shouldn't be tallying over 20 markers a season. That should be happening.

And Barzal could too if he'd just get himself into shooting mode far more often.
 
If the game plan is to expect multiplayer bounce back performances and no major injuries while a number of players are at an age where performance regression is a distinct possibility, well then I’m not holding my breath. Did I also mention that our lack of team speed on offense wasn’t addressed?

I think the gameplan is to build on continuity and see what a relatively proven group can do with a long summer of rest after a ton of hockey in a short period of time, most recently under a plethora of dubious circumstances.

Again, the changes have been behind the bench and with a rejuvenation of the left side of the D, regardless of who ends up in that 3 LHD spot.
 
Coming into the offseason we all agreed that our biggest issue was goal scoring. Coming off back to back ECF appearances we all knew the issue was goal scoring. And now we don't have the architect of those 2 ECF's behind the bench.

He kneecapped Lambert. But more importantly was unable to upgrade the offense over the past 2 offseasons. It's 100% on Lou. All of it.

It's BS to say a bunch of guys in their late 20s and early 30s need to take the 'next step'. Total crock of shit. These guys have all developed.

You're relying entirely on two of Wahly, Bellows and Beau to become 20-35 goal a year guys overnight, and that's assuming our defense is exactly as good as it was when Trotz was in charge. Even if Palms improves this year (which I expect), it's still not enough total goals to win a cup in my view.
wally would have scored 20 last season with consistent ice time and a little more patience from barry
 
It’s hard as a fan to be overly optimistic about an underperforming offense that’s done nothing to upgrade its talent pool in the offseason.

If the game plan is to expect multiplayer bounce back performances and no major injuries while a number of players are at an age where performance regression is a distinct possibility, well then I’m not holding my breath. Did I also mention that our lack of team speed on offense wasn’t addressed?

On a more positive note, the D and goaltending have elite potential so I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
your post is exactly why i'm 50/50 on the season. i truly feel it can go either way. if we get some of the things you mentioned fall positively then i see us as a playoff contender. i can just as easily see the negative side and a long season much the same as last year
 
I think the gameplan is to build on continuity and see what a relatively proven group can do with a long summer of rest after a ton of hockey in a short period of time, most recently under a plethora of dubious circumstances.

Again, the changes have been behind the bench and with a rejuvenation of the left side of the D, regardless of who ends up in that 3 LHD spot.
valid point. if it doesn't work the way Lou envisions, his job will be under immense scrutiny and rightfully so

Not quite, since it's impossible to play PeeWee Soccer for 55 years
unless you're herve villechaize
 
Did I also mention that our lack of team speed on offense wasn’t addressed?
If that includes our inability to move the puck quickly and shoot without hesitating (and accurately), yes you did. It seems to get disregarded around here though.

Also did you know that a lack of team speed on offense quite often will translate into getting burned going through the neutral zone when the play goes back the other way? 🤔:nod:

I know you knew that.;)
 
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