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Giroux and DeBrincat together introduced as Sens


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PK Cronin said:
That's correct, but if they can't move the salary out now because they don't want to pay the price, then why would the cost to move salary out when they absolutely have to be any less?
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I have no clue. who says they dont want to pay the price. I am just asking a question. When a team wants someone they will do what they have to do IMHO.
only time will tell. I would not want to overpay just because someone else wants it more Etc
 
Fantom said:
I have no clue. who says they dont want to pay the price. I am just asking a question. When a team wants someone they will do what they have to do IMHO.
only time will tell. I would not want to overpay just because someone else wants it more Etc
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All of the reports are that the Flyers can't move JVR without attaching assets (like their first round pick next year) and that they don't want to do that. If they go above the cap getting Gaudreau they're losing all leverage in negotiating and would need to give more away to become cap compliant.

Can't see a scenario where they put themselves in a worse bind when they're already uncomfortable with the cost to move JVR.
 
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SI90 said:
I thought Sens have been making excellent moves. Happy for their fans.
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Agreed. I think they just vaulted over the Devils in the league standings. Hell, I think they vaulted over the Canadiens as well.
 
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MJF said:
Agreed. I think they just vaulted over the Devils in the league standings. Hell, I think they vaulted over the Canadiens as well.
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They were already a pesky group with some nice talent, they've gotten better for sure.
 
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leeroggy said:
I'm scratching my head over you today. You've been the biggest advocate of spending to get that one top player. This one put up 129 points in 94 games, including 14 in 12 playoff games and you don't want to pay him like a Top 15 player? He LED the league in BOTH +/- and even strength points.

Remember the great movie Keeping the Faith? You think God is going to keep dropping opportunities like this every year? ROLL the DICE man, it's our best shot!
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Don't scratch your head. I believe very much in nuance which means I don't just say, "wE nEeD a grEat PlaYEr - sIgN AnyOnE!" Things are rarely black and white and I very much take details into account.

So in this case I would take Gaudreau, but don't want to just give him a black check. And it sucks we've reached this point, but I would've rather had Kane, Tarasenko, Miller, Forsberg, etc. Would rather "roll the dice" on those guys.
 
PK Cronin said:
All of the reports are that the Flyers can't move JVR without attaching assets (like their first round pick next year) and that they don't want to do that. If they go above the cap getting Gaudreau they're losing all leverage in negotiating and would need to give more away to become cap compliant.

Can't see a scenario where they put themselves in a worse bind when they're already uncomfortable with the cost to move JVR.
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I never said they would or even could. I just mentioned teams make room if its something they want ETC
 
Fantom said:
I never said they would or even could. I just mentioned teams make room if its something they want ETC
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You seem to think I'm debating with you, I'm not, just letting you know what's been reported. That's why it's believed the Flyers are out and their actions (signing other players) seem to back that up.
 
periferal said:
Don't scratch your head. I believe very much in nuance which means I don't just say, "wE nEeD a grEat PlaYEr - sIgN AnyOnE!" Things are rarely black and white and I very much take details into account.

So in this case I would take Gaudreau, but don't want to just give him a black check. And it sucks we've reached this point, but I would've rather had Kane, Tarasenko, Miller, Forsberg, etc. Would rather "roll the dice" on those guys.
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i sort of agree. these long term 10m deals are scary
 
doublechili said:
As a general proposition I agree, but the front office of the Flyers just seems to be a tire fire.
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I don't think players are that perspicacious when it comes to things like that. They just see a franchise that's a prestigious place to play. They know that front offices are ephemeral. You could sign in a place and a month later, before you play a game, the entire front office could get blown up.
 
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Richie Daggers Crime said:
I don't think players are that perspicacious when it comes to things like that. They just see a franchise that's a prestigious place to play. They know that front offices are ephemeral. You could sign in a place and a month later, before you play a game, the entire front office could get blown up.
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Why U gotta make Chales Wang going from Neil Smith to Garth Snow jokes now?!

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Seems like JGs agent has hit a wall. The expected PHI didn’t come to fruition. NJD may pay a premium, but we now know they allegedly have and he hasn’t signed. Isles are holding the line most likely under the guise of keeping money for the TEAM.

They want the Isles to up their ante for optics, feel good stories, and agent marketing.
 
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