Roster Building XX: How Many Patents Does Your GM Have?

[To Be Determined]

We do need to get tougher to play against and no one out pizza’s the hut so this might not be a bad move.

Geekie want return a cane?

Also, put me down in agreement with @Stickpucker - that looks like detroit style pizza.

 

[Chan790]

Geekie want return a cane?

Also, put me down in agreement with @Stickpucker - that looks like detroit style pizza.

It's the "Upstate NY special" aka. BufflChix or Buffalo Chicken Ranch Pizza. I live in Binghamton and every pizza place between here, Syracuse, and Rochester/Niagara serves that abomination.

Weirdly, I've never found it inside Buffalo.

Edit: My take away is that Central NY is very interested. Except...we only have AHL teams.

 

[To Be Determined]

It's the "Upstate NY special" aka. BufflChix or Buffalo Chicken Ranch Pizza. I live in Binghamton and every pizza place between here, Syracuse, and Rochester/Niagara serves that abomination.

Weirdly, I've never found it inside Buffalo.

Edit: My take away is that Central NY is very interested. Except...we only have AHL teams.

Ah - i can see that. My knowledge of upstate pizza is limited, beyond seeing the facebook page of a place my cousin worked in avon back in the day.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Put Jack Quinn in the package for Necas and I think the Canes would say yes. A recent penchant for severe injuries, yes, but also a super-talented goal-scorer who's only 22 and shoots right.

 

[spockBokk]

If BUF is “pushing hard” they’re probably trying to get CAR to bite on something like 11OA + Peyton Krebs.

Quinn or Paterka is who I’d imagine the Canes would want

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

If BUF is “pushing hard” they’re probably trying to get CAR to bite on something like 11OA + Peyton Krebs.

Quinn or Paterka is who I’d imagine the Canes would want

Considering the injury history, Quinn is likely the more realistic trade target than Peterka. I'd still take the chance on him if I were the Canes.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

I'd be ecstatic to get Quinn, mostly so I can post this every time he scores:

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

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~17:18

LeBrun elaborated on Necas. Apparently teams have "some frustration" with the asking price.

Sometimes, I wonder if HF is a better representation of how things work than we think.

What the ask?
Quality return.
Not happening. How about about a late 1st and B-prospect?
No.
He's not worth more. 53 points!
They don't have to trade him.
He wants out.
It's not up to him.
He could sign an offersheet. <-- Decision makers are here

 

[User13452]

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I dunno, I feel Carolina is "in" on everyone the way hyenas wait at the edge of the herd for a gazelle to falter and for once there isn't a lion or a cheetah or a super giraffe right there to take advantage.

In this case Guentzel overplays his hand and doesn't land 11 mil aav or whatever and comes crawling back to us.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I dunno, I feel Carolina is "in" on everyone the way hyenas wait at the edge of the herd for a gazelle to falter and for once there isn't a lion or a cheetah or a super giraffe right there to take advantage.

In this case Guentzel overplays his hand and doesn't land 11 mil aav or whatever and comes crawling back to us.

Guentzel’s chance of coming back lowers when going from 8 years to 7.

 

[Unsustainable]

8x9.5m (76m) That would push other teams to 7x11m aav (77m) to beat us.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

8x9.5m (76m) That would push other teams to 11m aav to beat us.

That would be a really bad contract. Pass

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Guentzel’s chance of coming back lowers when going from 8 years to 7.

That's somewhat true, but even if that's the case, I think that people are underrating the chance that Guentzel stays. I maintain the view that having one of Guentzel or Necas under contract is workable with the way that Carolina usually builds teams. Especially if the Canes can successfully pry someone like Quinn from Buffalo (or an equivalent talent elsewhere) in a Necas trade, they'd have one season of Quinn under his ELC, which would open up the space to a Guentzel extension and have space for one of Skjei or Pesce.

 

[User13452]

Guentzel probably has a good idea what Vancouver is willing to offer. Let’s not pretend like numbers haven’t been discussed even though they technically aren’t allowed to discuss anything there’s definitely tampering going on.

 

[NotOpie]

Must be. Although outside of pick 11 I’m not sure what they have to offer besides futures

JJ Peterka, Alex Tuch, the aforementioned Quinn....they could build a pretty nice package.

 

[User13452]

JJ Peterka, Alex Tuch, the aforementioned Quinn....they could build a pretty nice package.

Doubtful they move Tuch

 

[bleedgreen]

Quinn and a good pick would be a plenty fair package. Quinn can score. I wouldn’t expect the 11oa in that package. A later first, next years maybe (protected). Maybe a second and another pick added.

Quinn is a fair core piece in a Necas trade.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Quinn and a good pick would be a plenty fair package. Quinn can score. I wouldn’t expect the 11oa in that package. A later first, next years maybe (protected). Maybe a second and another pick added.

Quinn is a fair core piece in a Necas trade.

I'd do Quinn for Necas straight-up. Seriously. Maybe even add a pick on our end because of the extra ELC year. Quinn can be that good if he can finally stay healthy.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

I may have said this on here, because I've mentioned it so many times I don't know where I haven't. Pierre Lebrun who is pretty plugged into the Canes, said Canes made a "Pretty Strong 8yr offer". I think strong for the Canes is 8.5-9x8yrs. So that's somewhere between 68-72 million. So unless Canucks or others are offering 10.5+ x 7yrs, then Canes have to still be legitimately in the running.

 

[spockBokk]

I may have said this on here, because I've mentioned it so many times I don't know where I haven't. Pierre Lebrun who is pretty plugged into the Canes, said Canes made a "Pretty Strong 8yr offer". I think strong for the Canes is 8.5-9x8yrs. So that's somewhere between 68-72 million. So unless Canucks or others are offering 10.5+ x 7yrs, then Canes have to still be legitimately in the running.

If Canuck aggregator accounts are to be believed, the Canes still are “in it”:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803956630981349698

Also, I think Friedman said as much a few days ago on NHL Network, something to the effect that they’re still trying to sign him.

On Necas:

I think BUF has the most appealing mix of young, roster players and futures in terms of a Necas trade. That Pizza Guy account (no idea if legit or not) has hinted multiple times that BUF has been aggressive on that front.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Vancouver is in on all our FAs right now according to all the Vancouver talking heads.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

I may have said this on here, because I've mentioned it so many times I don't know where I haven't. Pierre Lebrun who is pretty plugged into the Canes, said Canes made a "Pretty Strong 8yr offer". I think strong for the Canes is 8.5-9x8yrs. So that's somewhere between 68-72 million. So unless Canucks or others are offering 10.5+ x 7yrs, then Canes have to still be legitimately in the running.

NC isn't a very tax friendly state, but it surely has to be better than the Canadian markets. Yes?

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I'd do Quinn for Necas straight-up. Seriously. Maybe even add a pick on our end because of the extra ELC year. Quinn can be that good if he can finally stay healthy.

Seems like a big if considering his last 3 seasons were 47, 75 and 27 games respectively.

How often do we trade a piece like Necas that can bring back a big return? I don’t want to waste the opportunity on someone who’s going to flame out due to injuries.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

NC isn't a very tax friendly state, but it surely has to be better than the Canadian markets. Yes?

according to cap friendly, an all salary AAV of 8 million would have a 400k higher income in Raleigh than Vancouver.