Roster Building XVII: Some Of Us Like Some Parts Of Our Group

[Borsig]

We will regret letting skjei go.

 

[dogbazinho]

I will be upset with paying any resource for Tarasenko after offseason negotiations fell off. He should be excommunicato

And btw I thought he'd be a good fit.

 

[User13452]

I just had that discussion with my dad. He thought that could be too much but for someone like him im not sure.

I would do that, I think a guy like EP is worth it.

Really all depends on what kinda money he’s looking for would need to be an extension worked out before that deal happens

We will regret letting skjei go.

He should be priority over Pesce and TT. I think the Severson contract is a good comparable 6.25. I would go 6.5-6.75 though would be max

 

[Brock Anton]

I like Skjei too, but I'm not interested in hitching our wagon to him for 6+ years (which is what it's going to take).

 

[spockBokk]

I will be upset with paying any resource for Tarasenko after offseason negotiations fell off. He should be excommunicato

And btw I thought he'd be a good fit.

I’d like to thing Tarasenko is a plan C after striking out on bigger fish. Maybe something they circle back to at 2:30pm on deadline day, when the acquisition cost should be lower, if they haven’t been able to get anything else done.

I still think he’d be a fit here, but yeah, don’t want them paying up 2nds for him.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

 

[Wolfpuck]

Yes daddy.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

As much as some Canucks fans want to think about the high end futures of an Anaheim or Columbus, odds are that Pettersson doesn't want to play there. And he, not the Canucks, controls his market, if made available. Just like M. Tkachuk.

I have no reason to doubt that the Canes would pursue him. Expensive expected contract, but too good of a fit to not make an exception for. Given where the Canes are competitively and what else the market has to offer (weather, anonymity), I'd expect the team to be on his short-list too.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I wonder if the Necas trade rumors are going around just because a Pettersson trade package is going around the woodwork. The only types of Necas trades that make sense for the Canes are either for a talented young player with a value contract or for a massive forward upgrade.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

As much as some Canucks fans want to think about the high end futures of an Anaheim or Columbus, odds are that Pettersson doesn't want to play there. And he, not the Canucks, controls his market, if made available. Just like M. Tkachuk.

I have no reason to doubt that the Canes would pursue him. Expensive expected contract, but too good of a fit to not make an exception for. Given where the Canes are competitively and what else the market has to offer (weather, anonymity), I'd expect the team to be on his short-list too.

To me, the team who can likely come up with the best trade package is Detroit, though I'm not sure that Yzerman thinks it is time yet to make that giant splash.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

How does Aho take it if we somehow manage to land EP? Who plays 2C? I know RBA doesn't number the lines. I just have a hard time believing the Canes could and would land him. Maybe he's been the RHC we've been waiting for this whole time? ha!

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

How does Aho take it if we somehow manage to land EP? Who plays 2C? I know RBA doesn't number the lines. I just have a hard time believing the Canes could and would land him. Maybe he's been the RHC we've been waiting for this whole time? ha!

EP is another lefty. If they want to, they can just put EP on Aho's wing and run EP-Aho-Whoever as the 1st line. That's basically what Vancouver does with him and JT Miller.

More likely, though, EP and Aho will center their own lines, which is essentially the Pittsburgh setup for the past 15 years. Maybe Aho and Svech makes one line and EP and Jarvis makes another one.

 

[spockBokk]

How does Aho take it if we somehow manage to land EP? Who plays 2C? I know RBA doesn't number the lines. I just have a hard time believing the Canes could and would land him. Maybe he's been the RHC we've been waiting for this whole time? ha!

Aho would likely be elated. You think Crosby wasn’t jumping up and down when the Penguins lucked into Malkin?

They’d figure it out.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

Aho would likely be elated. You think Crosby wasn’t jumping up and down when the Penguins lucked into Malkin?

They’d figure it out.

Just realized he's. LHC

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Any EP deal will happen after the season, surely.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

EP is another lefty. If they want to, they can just put EP on Aho's wing and run EP-Aho-Whoever as the 1st line. That's basically what Vancouver does with him and JT Miller.

Is that really what Vancouver does? Lindholm was with Petterson when they played us. Looking at NST, Miller has only played 127 5v5 minutes Petterson and 650 minutes away from Patterson so if they do that, it's not often.

Most common line mates:

Petterson: Mikheyev, Kuzmenko (pre trade, Lindholm post trade), Boeser, Lafferty. Since the trade, Lindholm has played with Petterson 90 minutes and away from him 48.

Miller: Boeser, PDG, Suter, Hooglander

More likely, though, EP and Aho will center their own lines, which is essentially the Pittsburgh setup for the past 15 years. Maybe Aho and Svech makes one line and EP and Jarvis makes another one.

Yeah, I agree.

 

[Chan790]

I don’t see us paying to trade away Andersen. The goalie market is again barren next offseason and he has performed well as a cane

I feel like it's likely he moves, but not for a loss. He deserves to have a chance at a starting job somewhere and we could use the cap space. We'd have to have very low confidence in Kochetkov to keep Andersen in light of our other cap considerations.

Someone will want to take a chance on him and especially if the price is lower than the insanity Calgary and Nashville are rumored to be asking for Saros and Markstrom.

 

[Chrispy]

I feel like it's likely he moves, but not for a loss. He deserves to have a chance at a starting job somewhere and we could use the cap space. We'd have to have very low confidence in Kochetkov to keep Andersen in light of our other cap considerations.

Someone will want to take a chance on him and especially if the price is lower than the insanity Calgary and Nashville are rumored to be asking for Saros and Markstrom.

It's a valid point that the market for Andersen might be decent when you look at the UFA market this offseason. In decreasing order of games played:

Talbot, Fleury, Kahkonen, Wedgewood Samsonov, Raanta, Quick, Jones, Nedeljkovic, Stolarz, Martin(!), Rittich, DeSmith, Lankinen.

But keep in mind Andersen has a 15 team NTC.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I feel like it's likely he moves, but not for a loss. He deserves to have a chance at a starting job somewhere and we could use the cap space. We'd have to have very low confidence in Kochetkov to keep Andersen in light of our other cap considerations.

Someone will want to take a chance on him and especially if the price is lower than the insanity Calgary and Nashville are rumored to be asking for Saros and Markstrom.

i dont see how having a proven and cheap 1B is somehow saying we have low confidence in Kochetkov, needless to say really low.

As awesome as martin has been, its a super small sample size to declare him our backup for next year. If we say martin isnt the backup, well the market is again barren and not a lot is there for guys who I would trust to start 30-35 games.

 

[bleedgreen]

I’ve never understood the EP mindset here. He would cost upwards of 11 to maybe something crazy like 13. That would blow our cap up, we’d still need to get a goalie and we’re down to zero defenseman the year after next. I get wanting a great offensive player but I don’t know that EP is the right guy.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I’ve never understood the EP mindset here. He would cost upwards of 11 to maybe something crazy like 13. That would blow our cap up, we’d still need to get a goalie and we’re down to zero defenseman the year after next. I get wanting a great offensive player but I don’t know that EP is the right guy.

EP is a real easy choice. Obviously paying him around 11 million + isnt ideal (between taxes and the stronger US dollar we should be able to get him cheaper than 12 million) but if we truly believe in our prospects we should be able to run a ELC in the top 6 and one in the bottom 6 with at least 2 elsewhere to still have a really strong team. KK would have to be moved too

Svech-Aho-ELC
Bunting-EP-Jarvis
Martinook-Staal-Fast
Cheap vet-Pono-FUS

Slavin-Burns
Orlov-Decent 2RD
Cheaper vet-cheaper vet (assuming morrow is in the deal)

Kooch
Andersen

that is easily doable.

 

[Brock Anton]

To me, the team who can likely come up with the best trade package is Detroit, though I'm not sure that Yzerman thinks it is time yet to make that giant splash.

Detroit would have to put Raymond on the table, which IDK if they would.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

EP is a real easy choice. Obviously paying him around 11 million + isnt ideal (between taxes and the stronger US dollar we should be able to get him cheaper than 12 million) but if we truly believe in our prospects we should be able to run a ELC in the top 6 and one in the bottom 6 with at least 2 elsewhere to still have a really strong team. KK would have to be moved too

Svech-Aho-ELC
Bunting-EP-Jarvis
Martinook-Staal-Fast
Cheap vet-Pono-FUS

Slavin-Burns
Orlov-Decent 2RD
Cheaper vet-cheaper vet (assuming morrow is in the deal)

Kooch
Andersen

that is easily doable.

There's a lot of people making an assumption (wishcasting, perhaps) that EP doesn't want to stick around Vancouver. That's a tough decision to make after it finally seems like Vancouver is turning a corner and JR is now at the helm. I'm not a guy who would place a bet with money on it that EP is going to pull a Matt Tkachuk, especially since Vancouver also doesn't have its own version of Johnny Gaudreau hastening the situation.

Carolina is also a team that historically likes premium veteran depth over ELCs. Yes, Jarvis and Drury are way out-performing the generic ELC player, but both are lineup luxuries in our current cap structure, luxurious enough that they splurged nearly $8M in cap space for a guy who currently plays bottom-pair minutes.

 

[User13452]

EP is a real easy choice. Obviously paying him around 11 million + isnt ideal (between taxes and the stronger US dollar we should be able to get him cheaper than 12 million) but if we truly believe in our prospects we should be able to run a ELC in the top 6 and one in the bottom 6 with at least 2 elsewhere to still have a really strong team. KK would have to be moved too

Svech-Aho-ELC
Bunting-EP-Jarvis
Martinook-Staal-Fast
Cheap vet-Pono-FUS

Slavin-Burns
Orlov-Decent 2RD
Cheaper vet-cheaper vet (assuming morrow is in the deal)

Kooch
Andersen

that is easily doable.

Andersen would likely get moved to free up some more money and bring in a cheap veteran backup

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I’ve never understood the EP mindset here. He would cost upwards of 11 to maybe something crazy like 13. That would blow our cap up, we’d still need to get a goalie and we’re down to zero defenseman the year after next. I get wanting a great offensive player but I don’t know that EP is the right guy.

Let us dream