Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVIII - Dust in the wind…

[dshea19]

He presumably sees him every day, or at least his assistants do. You kinda gotta give them the benefit of the doubt.

In limited viewings I felt like Barron got lost defensively a fair amount more than he should. It's usually something like that.

I think this is pretty accurate. Barron has far more potential than McKegg. There is little question of that. However, Barron does seem to get lost on D a bit more than McKegg. McKegg is where offense goes to die. He is adequate on D. I doubt Gallant loves McKegg, but he seems to believe that he can at least not be a massive defensive liability. He would probably prefer to use Barron if he thought he could trust him on D. I also do think there is something to sending Drury a message as well. Basically, in my eyes, the biggest problem is that Barron has not played in a way that has forced Gallant to permanently shelf McKegg. I think this is more on Barron getting his D game together more than anything else. McKegg is not long for this team, regardless. He is really just the light that exposes the darkness of the Rangers NHL ready prospect depth.

 

[IDvsEGO]

And that's his main problem, he's an entitled brat. How do you not report for camp in the best shape of your life?

Wasnt that always a problem with russian players, and i remember a post about how in the KHL they use camp to " get in shape" and its something that alot of russian players struggle with their first few years.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Kravtsov might get you 1/3 of the way there. An 18 year old Sillinger has been more productive in the NHL than a 20 year old Kravtsov was in the AHL.

The only people that think Kravtsov has any type of value is Ranger fans. I dont understand it. He was been extremely underwhelming ever since 2019. Straight up value wise hes probably worth not much more than a 3rd round pick

Lias was worth a (late?) second rounder. Kravtsov should have more value.

 

[chosen]

Backup goalie is still an important position. Geo has a 3m cap hit and is a free agent after this year. You have to try to trade him and get something for him while you can.

I don't disagree but why pay to acquire Martin Jones? Is he better than Kinkaid?

 

[rangers1314]

GG from the top rope

 

[JimmyG89]

I dislike putting this out there, because I have always personally disliked the player, but I could see Domi checking a lot of boxes for the Rangers.

Can play W/C, has a physical edge, draft pedigree, NYR ties. Can help them get a bulk deal on insulin. Having a bit of a down year but still producing ok on the whole, few years removed from some good production in Montreal.

Almost like the store brand JT Miller.

Domi has been my #1 rental target for a while. His ice time would go up here. He's been on the 4th line for Columbus at times this year. Recently got moved up due to injuries. Production is there. Versatility is there.

I also wouldn't be surprised if he likes it in NY that he'd be willing to re-sign with the team. That 72 point player may not be in there anymore, but I think that it is valid that a 60 point player is in there.

 

[Thirty One]

GG from the top rope

Sounds like a photo op.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Wasnt that always a problem with russian players, and i remember a post about how in the KHL they use camp to " get in shape" and its something that alot of russian players struggle with their first few years.

Maybe years ago? Not sure if that's the case now but regardless, it's a bad look. Especially considering what went down the year before.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Maybe years ago? Not sure if that's the case now but regardless, it's a bad look. Especially considering what went down the year before.

I mean panarin got off to a really bad start this year too, I remember watching him and thinking he was in terrible shape.

 

[Fitzy]

I think this is pretty accurate. Barron has far more potential than McKegg. There is little question of that. However, Barron does seem to get lost on D a bit more than McKegg. McKegg is where offense goes to die. He is adequate on D. I doubt Gallant loves McKegg, but he seems to believe that he can at least not be a massive defensive liability. He would probably prefer to use Barron if he thought he could trust him on D. I also do think there is something to sending Drury a message as well. Basically, in my eyes, the biggest problem is that Barron has not played in a way that has forced Gallant to permanently shelf McKegg. I think this is more on Barron getting his D game together more than anything else. McKegg is not long for this team, regardless. He is really just the light that exposes the darkness of the Rangers NHL ready prospect depth.

The thing is, the Rangers have already made the playoffs. The last 30+ games of this season are a trial run for the playoffs, trying to put the best possible roster together. I don't terribly care who we end up playing in the first round because no matter what it's gonna be a good hockey team, and it wont be the Avalanche.

This is the time to take some risks and experiment.

 

[savebyrichter94]

GG from the top rope

And then Barron jump scared Vince from behind and said “Gotcha”

 

[dshea19]

The thing is, the Rangers have already made the playoffs. The last 30+ games of this season are a trial run for the playoffs, trying to put the best possible roster together. I don't terribly care who we end up playing in the first round because no matter what it's gonna be a good hockey team, and it wont be the Avalanche.

This is the time to take some risks and experiment.

I don't disagree. I would 100% give Barron 20 games to get it together and if he doesn't, get whomever else in the final games to get back up to speed. I am just speculating what I think is in Gallants mind.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I question Brady’s character. Two little bites and he acts like he was stabbed to death.

Brendan?

 

[Lion Hound]

I remember when everyone was losing their mind about not taking this guy in the 2018 draft bc we had 3 first round picks, people thought when we made the trade up in that draft that it was to take Bokk and then we took K'andre and people were pissed. He was a very trendy prospect.

I was aboard the Bokk hype train. At the time, Rangers were lacking scorers. Prior to they were also lacking draft picks, specifically first rounders. They thought of a goal scoring forward with Wheels was very appealing. Bokk never panned out. At least not yet. Not looking very promising right now.

Wasn't overly dissapointed in K'Andre as the pick. Was dissappointed in the scouting reports on him. Big physical throwback defenseman. During that time, there was a lot of footage of that class. Everytime I watched Miller, he was solid but not a physical guy despite towering over much of the competition. Love K'Andre Miller's game right now. He's wasen't as advertised but he was better in areas I wasent expecting. I think in a couple more seasons everyone is going to be very happy he is a NYR.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Domi has been my #1 rental target for a while. His ice time would go up here. He's been on the 4th line for Columbus at times this year. Recently got moved up due to injuries. Production is there. Versatility is there.

I also wouldn't be surprised if he likes it in NY that he'd be willing to re-sign with the team. That 72 point player may not be in there anymore, but I think that it is valid that a 60 point player is in there.

Having his dad as a fan favorite here could not hurt his case if he is willing to resign here with this Rangers team. I would love if the Rangers we’re looking at Domi, I believe he can still be a 40-50 pt player on a playoff team. He has grit to his game. So even if Strome walks they won’t lose that skilled grit with Domi.

 

[Thirty One]

The thing is, the Rangers have already made the playoffs. The last 30+ games of this season are a trial run for the playoffs, trying to put the best possible roster together. I don't terribly care who we end up playing in the first round because no matter what it's gonna be a good hockey team, and it wont be the Avalanche.

This is the time to take some risks and experiment.

It won't be the Avalanche, but it might be the Hurricanes or Panthers. I'd much rather the Penguins.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I wonder what the 1st Rangers trade will be, between now and the deadline

 

[bigdog16]

Lias was worth a (late?) second rounder. Kravtsov should have more value.

Based on what? Their production is quite similar, Lias is a center and is also way better in his own zone

 

[Crease]

I wonder what the 1st Rangers trade will be, between now and the deadline

I predict Kravtsov and a pick for a middle-six forward.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Domi has been my #1 rental target for a while. His ice time would go up here. He's been on the 4th line for Columbus at times this year. Recently got moved up due to injuries. Production is there. Versatility is there.

I also wouldn't be surprised if he likes it in NY that he'd be willing to re-sign with the team. That 72 point player may not be in there anymore, but I think that it is valid that a 60 point player is in there.

It wouldn’t be surprising if he was a guy who relished playing in a big city, growing up the son of an NHLer who spent his youth living in Toronto. Seems like the kind of player who plays with emotion and may relish the spotlight. Could do well in front of the right crowd…probably take some dumb penalties for the same reasons as well (dare I say Avery like?). Maybe Covid and no crowds was a drag on his game in that regard.

In terms of 5v5 expected goals his performance this year is basically…Ryan Strome. Domi produced expected goals for / 60 of 2.67 (first among reg CBJ fwds), against of 2.89 (8th). Strome is 2.60 (first) / 2.77 (10th) on the NYR.

Maybe he finds more production in a new environment and is worth keeping around. But either way would think the cost would be reasonable if Columbus makes him available.

 

[RangerBoy]

Florida is another team with three quality lines. Their GM Bill Zito has a terrific job with that team.

I was watching this segment on Anton Lundell on The NHL network yesterday.



I wanted to throw the TV out the window.

Sasha Barkov
Sam Bennett
Anton Lundell

Zito signed Carter Verhaegae as a free agent after TB didn't qualify him.

Zito acquired Bennett from Calgary for a 2nd in 2022 and a prospect Emil Heinemen who was a former 2nd. Calgary already traded him to the Habs.

Zito selected Lundell in 2020.

Zito traded Denis Malgin to the Leafs for Mason Marchment.

Zito traded a 1st round pick in 2022 to Buffalo for Sam Reinhart who is having the best season of his career.

 

[rangers1314]

Florida is another team with three quality lines. Their GM Bill Zito has a terrific job with that team.

I was watching this segment on Anton Lundell on The NHL network yesterday.



I wanted to throw the TV out the window.

Sasha Barkov
Sam Bennett
Anton Lundell

Zito signed Carter Verhaegae as a free agent after TB didn't qualify him.

Zito acquired Bennett from Calgary for a 2nd in 2022 and a prospect Emil Heinemen who was a former 2nd. Calgary already traded him to the Habs.

Zito selected Lundell in 2020.

Zito traded Denis Malgin to the Leafs for Mason Marchment.

Zito traded a 1st round pick in 2022 to Buffalo for Sam Reinhart who is having the best season of his career.

They are in on Claude G as well

 

[MrAlmost]

GG from the top rope

I had a few things and jokes I wanted to say in response, but instead I'll just say this:

I would not be surprised if after making 2 trades, say Lehk and Copp (Pipe dream, but maybe Lehk and Pacquette or Janmark/Jarnkrok) that they then make Barron a regular. Perhaps he is tentative now cause the bottom 6 is simply not strong enough to help insulate a young player. Barron will get his shot, and I think he will be a regular.

 

[bl02]

Crap I would take Barron over Gauthier if GG is so in love with Mckegg.
Can we just see Barron for a 10-15 game stretch to see what he has? Is he that much of a liability?

 

[Lion Hound]

BRAIN DEAD FOR GREG MCKEGG

McEggs!