Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVIII - Dust in the wind…

[UAGoalieGuy]

Rangers are also in an interesting spot, one I dont think we've ever seen in the cap Era. They are a top team in the East and will be competing for the cup but they have $32MM in cap space at the deadline. They won't be able to use all that space to bolster the roster unless several trades are made.

Do they help a team they could potentially face in the playoffs by eating some cap space to facilitate a trade? A lot if not most of the playoff teams are at the cap currently.

The Rangers could likely get a hefty return for either being a part of a 3 way trade where they retain on an expiring contract or take a contract on, but is it worth the risk?

Risk is mitigated some if the deal is for a western conference team, but imagine the headlines if this team made it to the cup finals and then lost to the team they retained salary in a trade with and that player plays a significant role in the playoffs. Limited chance of happening but something that needs to be considered.

 

[Avery16]

Got to let it go--this is like groundhogs' day every time Buch scores.

Yes, most of us miss him and it doesn't look like a good trade.

But Sammy got hurt after 14 games--you can't tell me he didn't look good in those 14 games--plus we have the Blues 2nd which we don't know what that will be. Traded perhaps draft pick perhaps--I wish Sammy didn't get hurt just to have a better gauge of the trade.

And for the record I would have kept Buch over Strome or even CK with the good season he's having but it's in the past nothing we can do but wish him the best unless it's against us.

I still talk about the Ferraro/Norstrom/Laperriere for Kurri/McSorley/Churla trade, so fat chance.

 

[bobbop]

Coyotes only have 1 remaining salary retention slot, and would surmise the best value is using it for Kessel.

I've heard that there is virtually no interest in Kessel.

 

[Fitzy]

Not sure it would be prudent to make any trades that the GM wouldn't normally think were the right move, just by virtue of having cap space to burn.

It can make the Rangers a team of interest in trades for guys with big hits and one year remaining, but I wouldn't force the issue and make a bad deal.

 

[leetch99]

I don't think Zibby will age terribly well, but Panarin and Kreider certainly will- just IMO. I think they will both still be in the NHL in their late 30s.

I think Kreider ages well...he does not do much on 5 on 5 play to hurt himself these days considering his size and speed and with his size and conditioning he'll be OK . I also have doubts on Mika...but it is what it is and if we have to eat the last two years so be it . It is pretty well an accepted fate these days in the NHL. The players hold the hammer in contract negotiations most times . Panarin it looks like has already slowed down . His talent will earn him some points but overall ....his play at 5 on 5 will be less than desirable long term I think .

 

[GAGLine]

Video?

 

[leetch99]

Who the f*** is Zendaya?

Left or right shot?

(asking for a friend)

LMFAO...I was hoping somebody might ask that question....TY BoB !

 

[Anthony5967]

You’re right, I changed my mind. He’s amazing! (Sarcasm)

I’m not saying he’s amazing but people acting like he took the team over and they’re in the basement with Arizona need a reality check.

 

[Fitzy]

I think Kreider ages well...he does not do much on 5 on 5 play to hurt himself these days considering his size and speed and with his size and conditioning he'll be OK . I also have doubts on Mika...but it is what it is and if we have to eat the last two years so be it . It is pretty well an accepted fate these days in the NHL. The players hold the hammer in contract negotiations most times . Panarin it looks like has already slowed down . His talent will earn him some points but overall ....his play at 5 on 5 will be less than desirable long term I think .

I'm not convinced that Panarin has 'slowed down' so much as he isn't having a career year any more.

2019-2020 were career years for Zibby and Panarin the way this season is a career year for Kreider and Kadri.

Under normal circumstances Zibanejad scores 75-80 and Panarin 85-95.

I think Panarin will still be a PPG player by the end of his contract here at age 35. Zibby? He'll be 37-38 when his contract is set to expire and I just hope he's still potting 50-60 at that point. Seems like a contract that will eventually be traded or bought out, though. Avoid those concussions- we don't want another Brad Richards situation when our big center is toast by his 34th birthday.

 

[Pidto Files]

There's a quantitative and pretty distinct difference between

1) Being better than Strome on balance.

2) Being better than Strome by a wide enough margin to justify the use of several high quality cost controlled assets to upgrade on him.

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MS is better than Strome. He would be an upgrade no matter how you slice it. Added to it he would be with Panarin.

 

[McRanger92]

Drury has had hits and misses like every GM but we’ll be able to more properly judge him after the trade deadline with how the pieces he adds upgrade the team for the playoffs

 

[duhmetreE]

I've heard that there is virtually no interest in Kessel.

Thank God.

 

[Pidto Files]

Devils devils advocate. Jets want to get rid of Scheifele BECAUSE of his playoff experience

I would take him then. Even if it’s for the 2.5 years. The main question would be the cost for him. But, we are talking about a high end offensive center. He’s far better than Strome and has performed in the playoffs. The main question is the cost to acquire him. If it’s something like Lundkvist, Kravstov, B-prospect and a 1st or 2nd, this would be something to look long and hard at.

 

[BBKers]

We cannot afford MŚ.

 

[Pidto Files]

McDavid isn't good defensively either so I guess people in here wouldn't take him.

Defense is not an issue with this team. Scoring goals 5v5 is.

MS vastly helps here.

 

[Pidto Files]

I mean even the Rangers didn’t deal their 1C/Face of the Franchise in 2018. There’s a difference

They had one? Wasn’t the face of the franchise the guy who just had his number retired? Wasn’t the conversation in ‘18 whether or not Mika was a 1C?

 

[Synergy27]

Rangers are also in an interesting spot, one I dont think we've ever seen in the cap Era. They are a top team in the East and will be competing for the cup but they have $32MM in cap space at the deadline. They won't be able to use all that space to bolster the roster unless several trades are made.

Do they help a team they could potentially face in the playoffs by eating some cap space to facilitate a trade? A lot if not most of the playoff teams are at the cap currently.

The Rangers could likely get a hefty return for either being a part of a 3 way trade where they retain on an expiring contract or take a contract on, but is it worth the risk?

Risk is mitigated some if the deal is for a western conference team, but imagine the headlines if this team made it to the cup finals and then lost to the team they retained salary in a trade with and that player plays a significant role in the playoffs. Limited chance of happening but something that needs to be considered.

Drury absolutely must weaponize this cap space. I will be shocked if the traditional old Rangers find it in themselves to get creative, but it’d be a dereliction of duty to let this unprecedented, and likely never to be seen again, cap situation go to waste.

If he plays his cards right, Drury can essentially add anything he wants at the deadline with the outgoing assets being a wash, or even a net positive if some other teams get crazy. This has the potential to be a rare “have your cake and eat it too” moment.

Would go a long way towards softening the Buch blow if it plays out this way.

 

[bleedblue94]

Surprised eichel's head is still attached after a couple games, some on this board convinced me it would fall off by the time warmups was over

 

[duhmetreE]

Surprised eichel's head is still attached after a couple games, some on this board convinced me it would fall off by the time warmups was over

how many games have they won with him?

 

[RGY]

We cannot afford MŚ.

How?

 

[JohnC]

Surprised eichel's head is still attached after a couple games, some on this board convinced me it would fall off by the time warmups was over

There are rumors going around Caesar’s Palace that it’s really a body double

 

[Mac n Gs]

There are rumors going around Caesar’s Palace that it’s really a body double

Vegas is out here finding body doubles that can step in and have 2C impacts while we still haven’t drafted a viable C prospect since Derek Stepan. Fire Drury!

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I saw Mark Stone walking into T Mobile arena Friday night and asked when Smith is getting traded to the Rangers and he just smiled and said “Never”

Sorry ya’ll I tried my best

 

[bobbop]

Carolina has a much stronger locker room/leadership than the Rangers. This has helped with DeAngelo.

Perhaps in the past this was true. Quinn did not let the leadership dynamic in the room develop and prosper. He did not have the skill to develop that part of the team.

Carolina has an unquestionably strong room.

The beauty of Gallant as a coach is that he understands the locker room leadership dynamic and helps shape the culture. He is really good at that. Really good. X’s and O’s perhaps not so much. Where the Gallant/Vegas dynamic started to fall apart was when the management didn’t feel that way and started to ship out “his guys”. That shouldn’t be a problem here for the short term.

 

[RangerBlues]

I am 100% behind putting Mark Scheiefle in a Ranger uniform.