Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVII - 5 weeks until TDL

[Paul Padovano]

Please do!

 

[jay from jersey]

Kravtsov isn't going to be playing on this team and Chytil will never be the second line center the Rangers wanted him to be, and has failed every time he has been given a chance at a larger assignment. If you want to use a different word than "redundant" fine but the fact of the matter is neither of these two players have a long term future with the Rangers and thus are expendable. Cuylle is a completely different player than those two and will provide much needed depth and diversity to the line up.

this. Chytil also has 5 years with NYR and his development has stalled a bit. He also only has 1 year at 2.3 left, if he doesn’t have a great year, how much of a raise does he get? Is it worth it? Is he taking up a roster spot from a younger cheaper guy?
Cuylle has 3 years of ELC control.
He’s improved a lot since being drafted. He’s been excellent this year, and with his cup of coffee in Hartford last season....
2 completely different animals.
If I’m Drury, I’m keeping all of Cuylle/Berard/Othmann.
If they do include 1 in a deal, it better be another player coming back with cheap control as well..
I’d love to add Hagel to our group. He’s young and cheap enough and plays a similar brand of hockey that everyone in the FO wants. He’s also got 50-60 pt potential.
If we could add Hagel or Kravtsov, I’d add Hagel 10 outta 10 times.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I’d rather the team try playing Nils at RW before ever trading him for Cole Caufield.

 

[jay from jersey]

Chytil can become a kind of Tuch style winger if he adds upper body strength and learns to put people through the boards. He has the speed etc. The question is do the Rangers have the inclination and patience to wait out that development for another two/three seasons. That's a valuable player to have. It's also a roll of the dice if it works.

I don’t think so. Chytil has the speed/skating/shot but I think he’s got too much sugar water in his veins to play the physical game Tuch brings.
Chytils physical game hasn’t really progressed or gotten any better/meaner in the last 3 years.
I still think chytil will develop more, whether here, or down the road with some other team, but skating around throwing the body just isn’t him. I wish it was, he’ll go to the net and dirty areas because his legs are strong and he’ll try and score, but as far as being Tuch physical, I just don’t think he has it in him

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Sadly I am going to have to conclude the conversation here as I struggle to talk with people who have particularly poor reading skills.

Okay bud, you do you, ill do me. Enjoy Caufields success.

 

[wafflepadsave]

I just came here to say this. He hasn't proved anything on any type of ice yet.

He's riding the reputation of scoring more of his team's % of points than Kuznetsov, Tarasenko, Panarin etc. at the same age of like 18-19 years old. It was the most cherry picked stat in the history of stats and our fan base ate it up.

So did management.

 

[RGY]

So did management.

Maybe Gorton did. Maybe. But did Drury? Because it seems as though an expectation with an exceptional standard was set for him to make the team out of camp rather than award him a spot on the roster based on what I agree to be such a cherrypicked stat of convenience.

 

[RickChartraw]

this two week break sux. LGR

 

[duhmetreE]

What's the flavor of the week?

Who are we trading Kravtsov, Nils and a 1st for?

 

[I Eat Crow]

What's the flavor of the week?

Who are we trading Kravtsov, Nils and a 1st for?

18 year old Eric Lindros

 

[Irishguy42]

What's the flavor of the week?

Who are we trading Kravtsov, Nils and a 1st for?

Lehkonen+Chiarot

 

[Paul Padovano]

Canucks are going to flip Kravtsov right after we trade him for Bozo?

who's that Mr Ed Jovanoski?

 

[Daves a mess]

What's the flavor of the week?

Who are we trading Kravtsov, Nils and a 1st for?

Ryder and Halak

 

[Irishguy42]

Ryder and Halak

and a 2nd

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Maybe Gorton did. Maybe. But did Drury? Because it seems as though an expectation with an exceptional standard was set for him to make the team out of camp rather than award him a spot on the roster based on what I agree to be such a cherrypicked stat of convenience.

Irony is that I believe they only sent him to Hartford for conditioning as opposed to not being “ready” and he’d be up shortly and then we had the injuries so he would have been up anyway. A lot of miscommunication on Expectations and the “process” is

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Staple with a "Trade Rumblings" article on the Athletic but its all speculative. JT Miller, Ben Chiarot, Lehkonen, Namestnikov, Marc Staal (!) & Leddy mentioned. Also talks about Greiss as a low maintenance backup if Georgiev gets traded.

I have to say, Carp was a hack but at least he had a different perspective and recapped every game. Staple seems like he genuinely doesnt care.

He doesn't. He wants to be covering the Islanders.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Like I said, Giroux was never telling Philly to send him to a rival.

 

[Tob]

 

[RGY]

Like I said, Giroux was never telling Philly to send him to a rival.

Hasn’t Dater been getting things wrong left and right the last few years?

 

[Thirty One]

Hasn’t Dater been getting things wrong left and right the last few years?

Yes, if you replace the last few years with his entire career.

 

[IDvsEGO]

this. Chytil also has 5 years with NYR and his development has stalled a bit. He also only has 1 year at 2.3 left, if he doesn’t have a great year, how much of a raise does he get? Is it worth it? Is he taking up a roster spot from a younger cheaper guy?
Cuylle has 3 years of ELC control.
He’s improved a lot since being drafted. He’s been excellent this year, and with his cup of coffee in Hartford last season....
2 completely different animals.
If I’m Drury, I’m keeping all of Cuylle/Berard/Othmann.
If they do include 1 in a deal, it better be another player coming back with cheap control as well..
I’d love to add Hagel to our group. He’s young and cheap enough and plays a similar brand of hockey that everyone in the FO wants. He’s also got 50-60 pt potential.
If we could add Hagel or Kravtsov, I’d add Hagel 10 outta 10 times.

the mystery box could be anything even a boat.

 

[bobbop]

this. Chytil also has 5 years with NYR and his development has stalled a bit. He also only has 1 year at 2.3 left, if he doesn’t have a great year, how much of a raise does he get? Is it worth it? Is he taking up a roster spot from a younger cheaper guy?
Cuylle has 3 years of ELC control.
He’s improved a lot since being drafted. He’s been excellent this year, and with his cup of coffee in Hartford last season....
2 completely different animals.
If I’m Drury, I’m keeping all of Cuylle/Berard/Othmann.
If they do include 1 in a deal, it better be another player coming back with cheap control as well..
I’d love to add Hagel to our group. He’s young and cheap enough and plays a similar brand of hockey that everyone in the FO wants. He’s also got 50-60 pt potential.
If we could add Hagel or Kravtsov, I’d add Hagel 10 outta 10 times.

Another left wing. Just what we need.

C’mon man!

 

[Warh1ppy]

Super curious RE: JT Miller.

I admit a certain bias being on the west coast. But what would the actual willing price be for a player that is above PPG, $5.25 million cost controlled to the end of next season a Centre/pivot capable of playing both wings and 21st in league scoring right now?

From a NYR fan's stand point, what would the satisfactory return be for a player of that calibre?

Only reason I am asking is because of the expectations of the Van fan base verging on beyond underwhelming to he's not MacDavid calm down; so I was hoping to get a perspective from the other side of the fence

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Irony is that I believe they only sent him to Hartford for conditioning as opposed to not being “ready” and he’d be up shortly and then we had the injuries so he would have been up anyway. A lot of miscommunication on Expectations and the “process” is

Honestly from everything we've learned about Kravtsov from his actions over the years it really just seems he's an immature and spoiled kid who has had a charmed life and because he's talented he thinks he should have things handed to him. If he wants to be successful in the NHL he's really going to need to have a learning moment where he realizes his mentality and thought process is not where it needs to be.