Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVI - It’s Miller Time…K-A

[bhamill]

If you were a team with a future 1c would you trade that future 1c for a package of kravtsov, nils, and a 1st? If you say yes than you are a liar...

Depends. Do I have multiple center prospects and need top D prospects?
Would you trade a future borderline elite 1c for Brassard? Happened. Different organizations have different projections on players.
Was the package for Eichel that much better than this?
Sometimes opportunities come up.
Let’s not pretend this can’t happen.

 

[bhamill]

I like Domi for our team. We got so many bigger forwards who are good with the puck, but not many who can slalom through traffic and get away from pressure when the opposing team puts up an intact defense.

Depending on the price I’d take a chance on Domi.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

and Fox. I hope he's close

He was in a normal practice Jersey yesterday.

 

[Kovalev27]

Domi is awful

 

[bhamill]

Domi is awful

Sometimes. Sometimes not. He would also be 7th in scoring on this team. That’s why I said depending on the price. Rather see him than McKegg. Hahaha.

 

[duhmetreE]

Domi is the exacto Sather guy

 

[haohmaru]

Kakko out another month: Kaapo Kakko not close to Rangers return from upper body injury

Gotta think Drury is working those phones...

 

[egelband]

They’re ongoing, but I’ve never quite come away with the sense that the love affair is as strong as Uncle Larry reports. There’s interest, but there’s never been a moment where it seemed Strome was the top choice.

I have been thinking that, were a Strome extension on the cards, it probably would have been done and announced already.
Not saying it for sure won’t happen, but that it’s certainly an open question still, at best.
Does that sound right to you?

 

[mas0764]

If you were a team with a future 1c would you trade that future 1c for a package of kravtsov, nils, and a 1st? If you say yes than you are a liar...

Eichel was just traded for Krebs and Tuch.

And I think Nils could fetch a Lundell type 1 for 1 if it was early enough. You have to nail a projection before the player proves it.

 

[mas0764]

You lost me with stud wingers and Chytil in the same sentence.

I’m optimistic he can still be a 40 point winger and with our depth he could be a third liner, which would be massive.

 

[Kovalev27]

Sometimes. Sometimes not. He would also be 7th in scoring on this team. That’s why I said depending on the price. Rather see him than McKegg. Hahaha.

i rather see you than Mckegg

 

[haohmaru]

Eichel was just traded for Krebs and Tuch.

And a 1st. And a 2nd. And he had experimental surgery. There are some asterisks there.

 

[mas0764]

And a 1st. And a 2nd. And he had experimental surgery. There are some asterisks there.

Well the package I was asked about had a first as well.

There are always asterisks, but Eichel also has 90 point potential. We can’t find a future 70 point guy?

I’m not saying a trade exists out there right this second but to claim what we have to offer will never be enough is silly and not backed by history.

 

[tlk]

And a 1st. And a 2nd. And he had experimental surgery. There are some asterisks there.

Not experimental. They've been successfully doing it for like 20+ years.
Another NHLer got it done already.

And the 1st is protected AFAIR?

 

[haohmaru]

Well the package I was asked about had a first as well.

There are always asterisks, but Eichel also has 90 point potential. We can’t find a future 70 point guy?

I’m not saying a trade exists out there right this second but to claim what we have to offer will never be enough is silly and not backed by history.

It's backed by Rangers history, though.

It's difficult because you have to find a team with crazy enough center depth that they'll give up a cheap ($) asset for top 4 D +. In this shitty covid cap situation that we're in it's even more problematic for teams. It's possible, but unlikely. Eichel's situation was unique and I know we've had this conversation before, but, to me anyway, it's an outlier and not an example of normalcy.

 

[haohmaru]

Not experimental. They've been successfully doing it for like 20+ years.
Another NHLer got it done already.

Who? And having ONE surgery on an NHL player in 20+ years certainly makes it fall into that "experimental" area where it pertains to what we're talking about: a professional contact sports league (NHL).

 

[leetch99]

Not sure any lady can fix Gauthier, many coaches have tried

Well....much more was expected of Kreider for years on here and that never materialized until Gallant showed up....now watch him score 4 more goals the rest of the way LOL....I hope not . Somebody will figure Gauthier out and he will be a steady 12-15 /annual goal scorer while making a million per. I would not give up on him just yet . One more season with Gallant is worth the risk .

 

[Vitto79]

Domi is awful

maybe but itsthe type of overpaid ufa they can get for cheap and give a shot . Plenty of cap space to take a shot

Radulov is another if Dallas Sells

 

[Cygnus 2112]

Drury better get a headset because with KK out for another month he’ll be on the phone a lot. At least he better be. JT’s asking price just went up in VAN’s eyes.

 

[tlk]

Who? And having ONE surgery on an NHL player in 20+ years certainly makes it fall into that "experimental" area where it pertains to what we're talking about: a professional contact sports league (NHL).

Report: Tyler Johnson gets same repair as Eichel

running with the notion of its being so unique scary untried etc I thought this had to be a noticable piece of news.

As for the contact sports - MMA is a hell of a contact sport. And its been done on other athletes just not from the top tier leagues.
Yes the sample size isn't great but if they don't allow it it would stay so.

 

[RGY]

If Reilly Smith doesnt happen, Radulov is another good option. Plays with an edge.

 

[haohmaru]

Report: Tyler Johnson gets same repair as Eichel

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/32779647/chicago-blackhawks-tyler-johnson-sidelined-neck-surgery

Oh, so you're example was a guy who had the surgery AFTER Eichel did. Got it.

running with the notion of its being so unique scary untried etc I thought this had to be a noticable piece of news.

As for the contact sports - MMA is a hell of a contact sport. And its been done on other athletes just not from the top tier leagues.
Yes the sample size isn't great but if they don't allow it it would stay so.

I don't disagree with people having the surgery or it working in other sports. That being said, if no NHL player has ever had it and played another NHL game then it certainly is experimental as it pertains to this league. It is unique. It quite literally has NEVER been done before Eichel.

 

[Ola]

Domi is awful

Don’t mix up playing at a certain level with being that level.

You know who really played awful before he changed teams? Sam Bennett. 20-25 pts per season. Then he goes to Florida where he has 27 goals and 45 pts in his last 47 games. That is not awful, Trade Bennett to say the Islanders and he could be back to being awful again tomorrow.

Can Domi also be a player that is average in a certain environment and really good in another? Certainly debatable, I am not saying that he would become a star over night in NY. Don’t get me wrong. But I do think there is a good chance that he has more in him.

The thing for me when watching him is just that he doesn’t seem to have been at a great place mentally for the last handful of years. I am sure many remember that super energetic kid from Juniors who celebrated more than anything after a goal and so forth. Then he tried to come into Phoenix with high ambitions and carry the team and it just wasn’t enough, even remotely. The last years his expression didn’t even change after scoring a goal. Now he has moved around a bit. Been injured a lot.

So perfectly possible that he won’t get a new start to his career. I wouldn’t want to throw a long term deal his way. But he is not an awful player with no abilities. He got tremendous balance. Good speed. He is opportunistic with the puck. He can pull of moves in the heaviest of traffic few can. And so forth. If he can get going, there is upside there for sure.

 

[RGY]

Don’t mix up playing at a certain level with being that level.

You know who really played awful before he changed teams? Sam Bennett. 20-25 pts per season. Then he goes to Florida where he has 27 goals and 45 pts in his last 47 games. That is not awful, Trade Bennett to say the Islanders and he could be back to being awful again tomorrow.

Can Domi also be a player that is average in a certain environment and really good in another? Certainly debatable, I am not saying that he would become a star over night in NY. Don’t get me wrong. But I do think there is a good chance that he has more in him.

The thing for me when watching him is just that he doesn’t seem to have been at a great place mentally for the last handful of years. I am sure many remember that super energetic kid from Juniors who celebrated more than anything after a goal and so forth. Then he tried to come into Phoenix with high ambitions and carry the team and it just wasn’t enough, even remotely. The last years his expression didn’t even change after scoring a goal. Now he has moved around a bit. Been injured a lot.

So perfectly possible that he won’t get a new start to his career. I wouldn’t want to throw a long term deal his way. But he is not an awful player with no abilities. He got tremendous balance. Good speed. He is opportunistic with the puck. He can pull of moves in the heaviest of traffic few can. And so forth. If he can get going, there is upside there for sure.

I get what the line of thinking is, bringing up Bennett, but Domi really isn’t the same. He seems like such a passive player and he isn’t engaged enough when he plays. His production just isn’t enough that would lead me to believe he is going to all the sudden figure it out here. Plus he is another LWer.

 

[Kovalev27]

Don’t mix up playing at a certain level with being that level.

You know who really played awful before he changed teams? Sam Bennett. 20-25 pts per season. Then he goes to Florida where he has 27 goals and 45 pts in his last 47 games. That is not awful, Trade Bennett to say the Islanders and he could be back to being awful again tomorrow.

Can Domi also be a player that is average in a certain environment and really good in another? Certainly debatable, I am not saying that he would become a star over night in NY. Don’t get me wrong. But I do think there is a good chance that he has more in him.

The thing for me when watching him is just that he doesn’t seem to have been at a great place mentally for the last handful of years. I am sure many remember that super energetic kid from Juniors who celebrated more than anything after a goal and so forth. Then he tried to come into Phoenix with high ambitions and carry the team and it just wasn’t enough, even remotely. The last years his expression didn’t even change after scoring a goal. Now he has moved around a bit. Been injured a lot.

So perfectly possible that he won’t get a new start to his career. I wouldn’t want to throw a long term deal his way. But he is not an awful player with no abilities. He got tremendous balance. Good speed. He is opportunistic with the puck. He can pull of moves in the heaviest of traffic few can. And so forth. If he can get going, there is upside there for sure.

Domi has changed teams multiple times. He ain’t Sam Bennett