Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVI - It’s Miller Time…K-A

[Ola]

I have been thinking that, were a Strome extension on the cards, it probably would have been done and announced already.
Not saying it for sure won’t happen, but that it’s certainly an open question still, at best.
Does that sound right to you?

I agree. If we assume that Drury’s plan all along has been to use Strome as a self rental — everything that has taken place to date fits that narrative.

Panarin develops chemistry with him and of course wants him retained, and management immediately picks up the phones to have a discussion while making sure to tamper the expectations (was like what a week between Panarin’s comment and Brooks article?). Drury don’t want to be perceived as arrogant like Gorton was. Gorton never picked up the phone unless he meant business. Many guys left and said stuff like, was a little surprised that I at least didn’t get one single call, but… It was unnecessary.

Given the pressure from the team, I don’t think it must mean much that there has been a report that we had a discussion with Strome’s agent.

His usage is another factor. In this league you get paid for goals and assists. That is 95% of what sets the salary for a forward. Not to take anything away from Strome, our usage of him really is optimizing his production.

 

[Ola]

Domi has changed teams multiple times. He ain’t Sam Bennett

Nor is he awful across the board.

Another example is Neal Pionk. Was he awful here in NY or was his play just not up to standards for the No 1 D role he was thrown into? Many claimed that he was awful period. Everyone in Winnipeg claims that Pionk is an upgrade over Trouba.

What I really am saying is that we can’t look at a player and sort them into either the cathegory of being awful or great. Many players have pros and cons and will deliver in some environments but not others.

 

[RGY]

What about Krejci? Is he an option after his season ends?

 

[bbny]

I really doubt Kakko’s injury has Drury panicking or working the phones extra hard. 14 pts in 37 games…no reason to get in a tizzy replacing that.

 

[KevinFinnerty]

I don’t think Smith will be available, they’re putting Stone on Ir

 

[haohmaru]

I really doubt Kakko’s injury has Drury panicking or working the phones extra hard. 14 pts in 37 games…no reason to get in a tizzy replacing that.

Wow. Yeah, that's all there is to playing hockey...

That and the Rangers wing "depth".

 

[jay from jersey]

I agree. If we assume that Drury’s plan all along has been to use Strome as a self rental — everything that has taken place to date fits that narrative.

Panarin develops chemistry with him and of course wants him retained, and management immediately picks up the phones to have a discussion while making sure to tamper the expectations (was like what a week between Panarin’s comment and Brooks article?). Drury don’t want to be perceived as arrogant like Gorton was. Gorton never picked up the phone unless he meant business. Many guys left and said stuff like, was a little surprised that I at least didn’t get one single call, but… It was unnecessary.

Given the pressure from the team, I don’t think it must mean much that there has been a report that we had a discussion with Strome’s agent.

His usage is another factor. In this league you get paid for goals and assists. That is 95% of what sets the salary for a forward. Not to take anything away from Strome, our usage of him really is optimizing his production.

this is correct. I think they will keep playing footsie with each other About a contract ext until the rangers are eliminated from the post season.
But ultimately the plan all along has been for Drury to make his big splash trade for a young 2C in the offseason/draft where that type of move is way more practical.
Removing/replacing guys from a playoff run could have disastrous effects on the room/chemistry.
I don’t think he wants to do that at all.
He tried to move strome in the offseason, but couldn’t get anything he deemed was enough value for what strome brings.
Getting LaF/kakko more involved offensively is also going to be critical.
I have no doubt Drury would like to break up the kreider/Zibby strome/panarin clique paradigm. The cap is also a real worry the next 2 seasons. Imo our roster next season looks something like this...
Kreider/Panarin- Zibby-LaF or Kreider
Panarin or LaF- Trade C- Kakko
Goodrow-Barron-Blais
Hunt-FA( jarnkrok/Boyd type)-Reaves
Ex Ruesschoff or Gettinger

it’s at the point where Barron is going to need a full time roster spot as 3/4C.
Signing a Jarnkrok/Boyd ( trade) insulates him a bit in case he struggles and the drop him down in the line up.
I fully expect that maybe next years team takes a step back to go 2 steps fwd.
No one thought we’d win as many games as we have this season so far.
Main glaring holes Drury has to fill.
-long term 2C
-vet 4C
-Back up goalie
Everything else should come from in house.

 

[GAGLine]

What about Krejci? Is he an option after his season ends?

If Krejci comes back to the NHL, which I doubt happens, I can't see it being with any team other than Boston. And if he does come back, he'd have to pass through waivers. We could game that by giving him a high cap number that most other teams can't fit this year, but again, I can't see him signing with us.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Well....much more was expected of Kreider for years on here and that never materialized until Gallant showed up....now watch him score 4 more goals the rest of the way LOL....I hope not . Somebody will figure Gauthier out and he will be a steady 12-15 /annual goal scorer while making a million per. I would not give up on him just yet . One more season with Gallant is worth the risk .

Agree, I kinda picked a name out of the hat. I don’t have the technical expertise in hockey to diagnose his issues though. We’ll give him 800k for 2 years to be a 13th F.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

this is correct. I think they will keep playing footsie with each other About a contract ext until the rangers are eliminated from the post season.
But ultimately the plan all along has been for Drury to make his big splash trade for a young 2C in the offseason/draft where that type of move is way more practical.
Removing/replacing guys from a playoff run could have disastrous effects on the room/chemistry.
I don’t think he wants to do that at all.
He tried to move strome in the offseason, but couldn’t get anything he deemed was enough value for what strome brings.
Getting LaF/kakko more involved offensively is also going to be critical.
I have no doubt Drury would like to break up the kreider/Zibby strome/panarin clique paradigm. The cap is also a real worry the next 2 seasons. Imo our roster next season looks something like this...
Kreider/Panarin- Zibby-LaF or Kreider
Panarin or LaF- Trade C- Kakko
Goodrow-Barron-Blais
Hunt-FA( jarnkrok/Boyd type)-Reaves
Ex Ruesschoff or Gettinger

it’s at the point where Barron is going to need a full time roster spot as 3/4C.
Signing a Jarnkrok/Boyd ( trade) insulates him a bit in case he struggles and the drop him down in the line up.
I fully expect that maybe next years team takes a step back to go 2 steps fwd.
No one thought we’d win as many games as we have this season so far.
Main glaring holes Drury has to fill.
-long term 2C
-vet 4C
-Back up goalie
Everything else should come from in house.

Agree with your predictions here but what’s wrong with Rooney as 4C if he comes in at 950k x 2? Other issue will be 3LD. We have to dump Nemeth off somewhere, presumably Schneider is 3RD, is it Jones here (I hope) or do we have to find some plug. Maybe we pair Jones with Grouba and Miller with Schneider?

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

If Reilly Smith doesnt happen, Radulov is another good option. Plays with an edge.

Yeah I’ve been thinking this as well. I don’t think we’re gonna solve any long term issues at deadline so I’m thinking Drury will take a moderate approach as prices fall and that means: Radulov/DeHaan/bottom 6 C/W like Larsson or Jarnkrok

 

[Rongomania]

Yeah I’ve been thinking this as well. I don’t think we’re gonna solve any long term issues at deadline so I’m thinking Drury will take a moderate approach as prices fall and that means: Radulov/DeHaan/bottom 6 C/W like Larsson or Jarnkrok

I dig the Radulov idea as well. As far as I remember, he shows up big time in the playoffs as well. He and Goodrow would make quite the 2/3 of a solid playoff hockey line.

 

[Vitto79]

What about Krejci? Is he an option after his season ends?

Pretty much a lock to Boston if he returns no ?

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Drury better get a headset because with KK out for another month he’ll be on the phone a lot. At least he better be. JT’s asking price just went up in VAN’s eyes.

Why, we can replace KK with a Dry Hunt

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I dig the Radulov idea as well. As far as I remember, he shows up big time in the playoffs as well. He and Goodrow would make quite the 2/3 of a solid playoff hockey line.

I know it’s been a few years but I thought he was the best Canadien player in our series against them. He seemed to be everywhere

 

[rangers1314]

Zib back at practice with CK and Laf.

Goodrow now on the wing with Strome and Panarin

Hunt - Chytil - Goat 3rd line

 

[NYR Viper]

I really like the idea of Radulov. Again, he’s a target of someone with a high cap hit with moderate production. Not many teams have cap space and if they do it will be for other players. The cost should be minimal and he would be a nice addition to the wing depth overall. If he fits in, perhaps they can sign him to a reasonable deal as a depth scorer

 

[Rongomania]

I know it’s been a few years but I thought he was the best Canadien player in our series against them. He seemed to be everywhere

Agreed 100%. Also watched him when we were all hoping Zucc would resign in Dallas / make the finals and he was arguably their best player in those playoffs for them as well I believe.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Stars should make the playoffs. They have been a streaky team this season. Dallas has won 7 out of their last 9 games. The Stars are 3 points out of the last wildcard. Anaheim holds the last spot.

Colorado, Nashville, Minnesota,St.Louis & Dallas in the central.

The teams in the pacific battle for their three playoff spots.

The Stars are better than 4th best team in the pacific division.

The Stars have a lot of money committed in their players. That team can come out of the west. In 2019, they blew a 3-2 lead to the Blues. They made the Cup finals in 2020. The Stars have too many good players. Roberston(2022) and Hintz(2023) are both due huge raises. Their line with Pavelski is one of the best lines in The NHL. Seguin and Benn are making a fortune.

Klingberg wants too much term. Maybe they move him.

The Stars should be looking to add at the deadline.

 

[SA16]

Dallas is 3 points out of a playoff spot with 4 games in hand. Why are talking about Pavelski, Radulov, even Hintz (which is ridiculous). Seems just as likely they might be buyers than sellers.

 

[Fitzy]

Zib back at practice with CK and Laf.

Goodrow now on the wing with Strome and Panarin

Hunt - Chytil - Goat 3rd line

That third line continues to be a gigantic wart on the face of this roster

 

[effen]

Dallas is 3 points out of a playoff spot with 4 games in hand. Why are talking about Pavelski, Radulov, even Hintz (which is ridiculous). Seems just as likely they might be buyers than sellers.

They are 100% undoubtedly buyers. Hintz and Robertson are of course complete fantasy.

Radek Faksa and Alex Radulov with their combined 4 goals and -28 in 81 games wouldn't be particularly hard to pry away, the real question is why the f*** would anyone want to.

 

[effen]

That third line continues to be a gigantic wart on the face of this roster

I mean this is what happens when guys who don't do anything to be in the lineup are slotted there because of potential and draft status and hypothetical progression.

Somehow people are going to zero in on Hunt despite him being the only one of the three outperforming his ability level. Mighty HF posters tremble in fear at cutting bait with failed 1st round picks but give em a waiver wire level guy to sink their teeth into and you won't hear the end of it for years (hello Greg McKegg).

 

[Fitzy]

I mean this is what happens when guys who don't do anything to be in the lineup are slotted there because of potential and draft status and hypothetical progression.

Somehow people are going to zero in on Hunt despite him being the only one of the three outperforming his ability level. Mighty HF posters tremble in fear at cutting bait with failed 1st round picks but give em a waiver wire level guy to sink their teeth into and you won't hear the end of it for years (hello Greg McKegg).

Well the issue as I see it is that it’s a guy who can’t play NHL hockey in Gauthier, a guy who can’t currently play NHL level hockey as a center in Chytil, and a 4th liner in Hunt who is being asked to do waaaaay too much.

Gauthier should have been waived and replaced by whomever between Barron and Gettinger won the job in my opinion. At least they can play fundamental hockey.

 

[Avery16]

Carp not a Goat fan, I take it