Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXII: One Thing Leads to Another
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SA16
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No I think they are playing Martin Kaut because they are trying to win games and have four forwards ahead of him on the depth chart injured.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
I have little doubt he knew, though it probably happened a lot sooner than he hoped. The challenge is that even when you know something is coming, it can still hurt.
The real question is where does he go from here. He’s not in the Rangers plans, and while he can still play, how much is proving that worth to him?
In other words, does he uproot his life and hang on for another year? Two?
What’s the breaking point for that uproot? A contender? A middle of the road team with a shot? A bubble team where he can start?
I don’t know, but that thought has to be coming at some point.
as much as I hate the devils they handled their trades great. They picked up a lottery pick for Hall and a great package for Coleman. I don’t see us getting those type of returns at this point especially with teams like Boston and Colorado as the interested teams
If the Rangers make their decision on Kreider about what they're trying to do next year then we are f***ed sidedways.
Keeping him would have a ripple effect where bodies are going to have to go. This may not necessarily be a bad thing, but something tells me that the FO will take the easy way out on this one.
Chalfdiggity3
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If we are trading skjei I would do it for trocheck straight up. It allows us to move strome in another deal. And rentals are going for a premium right now.
Trading strome and krieder could set us up greatly for the future as well.
Trading strome and krieder could set us up greatly for the future as well.
Why? We aren’t the Kings. The second Gorton signed Panarin and Trouba to massive deals was when he wanted to accelerate the rebuild and compete sooner. Look I’m not saying we should give Kreider anything he wants but if both sides can make a fair compromise then he fits our plan to start competing, we don’t have a replacement for him.
17futurecap
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Edge
Kris King's Ghost
Definitely an interest - but the devils in the details.
It’s not just as black and white as sign him or trade him. There are follow-up conversations and other considerations at work.
I know everyone thinks I’m being mean when I say this but no contending team is going to want him. He’s not very good anymore. There isn’t going to be a line of top teams waiting to get their shot at hank. That’s going to be the biggest eye opener for him if he doesn’t already know it.
That’s true. Nobody knows for sure. However personally i feel there is a better chance a compromise had been made then say a few weeks ago where I even thought he was a goner
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
From what I’ve heard, they want to be able to get through next year, where they might have to give a few guys contracts, knowing that the following year could see A LOT of money free up.
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Chalfdiggity3
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We said the same thing about not having a replacement for zucc, mcdonagh, Callahan and others.
I like krieder but let's not make him out to be the 2nd coming of anything great. He is a very streaky player and giving a 29yo a 7m aav for 7 years is bad cap management for now and the future. I can promise you that by year 5 we will all be begging for another compliance buyout to buy out krieder. This team is still a few years from competing for the cup and we will need the cap space to sign our other rfas like DeAngelo, fox, kakko, zibs, and so on.
Studnicka may be untouchable today. That may change by Monday.
. You misinterpreted. I never said give him what he wants ..I said a compromise. If Kreider takes a bit less then it makes perfect sense. The Rangers aren’t a bottom feeder they are closer. Can’t waste years of Panarin either by trading assets every year. Look I was the one who wanted to rebuild in 2016 but sooner or later you gotta start wanting to compete
Do you want to keep Kreider if it means DeAngelo gets pushed out?
Because thats the most likely outcome IMO.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
I’m on the fence about the interest component. A big part of me agrees with you, and especially gets the whole “mean” aspect you’re referring to.
But there is part of me that wonders that while a team might not want him to $4.25 million, there may be a market at $3m or less on a one year “let’s see the chip on your shoulder” type contract.
And that ties into the whole “how much do you want to uproot your life” question.
I honestly don’t know.
Ghost of jas
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No it isn’t. It more likely means at worst, Lundqvist is bought out. And DeAngelo can take another one-year deal and the Rangers can extend him in January knowing Staal, Smith and Girardi’s buyout are off the books.
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NYR Viper
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Kris King's Ghost
Ironically enough, I don’t have a good read on what progress, if any has been made. There is part of me that suspects that even if the gulf was too big to cross, Gorton wouldn’t advertise that. He’d have no reason to signal to other teams that he HAS to move Kreider. I further suspect he’d want to get a clearer picture of “last best offers” in the lead up to the 11th hour.
NYR Viper
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That Kreider has package is pretty similar to what we’ve all been bantering about for months.
That’s a real solid package. He also mentioned that they would like to add a conditional pick of some kind based on whether he signs with that team.
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