Speculation: Roster building thread XXIV:

[Off Sides]

who do you want from Carolina?

I am interested in Julien Gauthier and Kuokkanen, yet they also have a lot of draft picks to choose from, their 1st, Toronto conditional 1st, their 2nd, the Rangers 2nd.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Lauko I can understand, but what's the attraction to JFK? Why is he playing in the SHL?

I could be wrong but I believe the team said he needed to be close to his family for some reason

 

[TheDirtyH]

What is Erik doing THIS year?

Also, check games played

To be clear, I don't think they're nearly the same caliber player, I was just making a joke bc the OP had been spamming discussions of Trouba with charts from this site. The whole tabloid-visuals as conclusive/comprehensive knowledge thing is the opposite of what I meant by posting it.

But like, the point is that if it's easy to be skeptical in one direction (Tony/Erik), it seems prudent to be just as skeptical in another direction (Tony/Jacob).

 

[GAGLine]

Yes, I am aware the trade Kreider crowd will hate this.

The problem is the contract. It's very easy to say we should re-sign him, but are we giving him 7 x 7? I think that's where most people have an issue. If you think he'll take less than that, that's fine, but what if he doesn't? I'm sure Gorton knows the numbers and will make his decision accordingly.

 

[True Blue]

Normally that is true but not in this case.
If you can find the interview after the trade deadline closed.
Steve Yzerman claimed that the deal was set for McDonagh and Gorton then added J.T. for Namestnikov as an add on to which Yzerman agreed.

Any report that we have seen from our own insiders to what was reported, never once put it that way. The deal, as far as I know, ALWAYS had Miller included. That was the whole of it. There were no partial deals.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Lauko I can understand, but what's the attraction to JFK? Why is he playing in the SHL?

I completely missed that he's already 23. Yikes!

 

[Ratelleitlikeitis]

Would rather keep Kreider and move Strome.

Andersson for Bennett. Probably have to attach a draft pick.

Georgiev to Toronto for Kapanen+

Strome traded after the season.

Rangers extend Fast who can be exposed during expansion draft.

Kreider re-signed.

Skjei sticks for now.
Buchnevich sticks for now.
-I think the two above can be packaged for a top 15 1st round pick or young up and coming LD in the offseason.

But for now:

Kreider-Zib-Kapanen
Bennett-Strome-Panarin
Kakko-Chytil-Buch
Lemieux-Howden-Fast
Smith


Yes, I am aware the trade Kreider crowd will hate this.

Bennett still only 23, Kapanen 24. Thats the right age range to be grabbing those guys. Bennett brings a nice mix of physicality

As much as I like Kapanen, I don't think there is a way we get him for Georgiev. Beyond their four scoring studs, he is so important for their depth, and they see him as far more valuable than a "backup" goalie.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I am interested in Julien Gauthier and Kuokkanen, yet they also have a lot of draft picks to choose from, their 1st, Toronto conditional 1st, their 2nd, the Rangers 2nd.

Thank you

would be nice. Rough doing business with these smaller minded teams. They perceive themselves as small market despite a healthy market and are so reluctant to part ways with much.

 

[RGY]

The problem is the contract. It's very easy to say we should re-sign him, but are we giving him 7 x 7? I think that's where most people have an issue. If you think he'll take less than that, that's fine, but what if he doesn't? I'm sure Gorton knows the numbers and will make his decision accordingly.

I know and thats fair. I dont disagree with that sentiment. I am not ok with the 7x7. This isnt a blank check situation. I understand that if the terms are not what the Rangers want he will be moved.

In which case, my lineup would have to be changed for the rest of the season. Just hope they get 3 forwards back in these potential deals with only 1 forward going out so that we dont have to watch Haley and Smith play hockey, or tummy sticks, anymore...

 

[GAGLine]

I completely missed that he's already 23. Yikes!

Oh, okay. I was wondering if maybe he was a Lemieux type. Lower offense, but more of a grinder/in-your-face kind of player.

 

[SA16]

Trouba does things no other defenseman we have can : he spams shots on net , he has size and plays nasty , he can play 25 min a night . Guys look at him through a contract tinted prism . Take away the 8x8 and NMC and he’s the type of player everyone wants on their team . I’m sure if you watched Seth Jones every single game you’d find holes in his game . Trouba isn’t or shouldn’t be going anywhere . The rangers need to find other ways to shed cap to retain ADA , and IMO CK . Losing those two is Edmonton style rebuild . What’s the use of stockpiling picks and prospects in lieu of veterans . In this league it takes most guys until they’re 22-24 to start to figure it out and be impactful .

"Spamming shots on net" is not a positive.

 

[NYSPORTS]

The problem is the contract. It's very easy to say we should re-sign him, but are we giving him 7 x 7? I think that's where most people have an issue. If you think he'll take less than that, that's fine, but what if he doesn't? I'm sure Gorton knows the numbers and will make his decision accordingly.

Kreider is gone. It’s like Zuccarello, Callahan, Hank, etc. The cap, his age, the direction of the team indicate he’s gone.

 

[Leetch3]

Pierre LeBrun wrote an article in The Athletic this morning previewing the trade deadline one month from today.

He spoke to Matt Keator. The Rangers have not been talking to him about a contract extension. The Rangers have not had any discussions with Fast’s agent. LeBrun wrote he gets the sense the Rangers want to keep Quickie. The Rangers are not in rush to move Georgiev. They are listening but they are fully committed to moving Georgiev.

He wrote about the Avs, Bruins and Blues as possibilities for Kreider.

still time to for that to change but I think this is a loud and clear message from JG that he isn't even considering re-signing them and has never wavered on the plan to sell them for assets...it was the same thing last year. we spent the whole year debating the pros & cons of signing vs trading hayes & zuke. and JG never even considered signing them an option

 

[charliemurphy]

Georgiev and Skjei for Bokk, Toronto’s 1st and our 2nd.

Would be funny to get our 2nd back from Fox but I prefer another prospect over the 2nd.
Counter... Skjei and Georgiev for Toronto's 2020 1st, Edmundson (for salary purposes), Gauthier and either one of Bokk, Puistola or Kuokkanen.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I wouldn't be upset with Boston's 1st, JFK and Curtis Hall

Hall is someone I think needs to cook in college but I could see a similar arc like Morgan Barron is having with him

hmm, maybe regarding Hall. Reading up on him I’m not sure. I’m very high on Morgan Barron, especially watching him in Stamford. He’s a legit, thick, strong hockey player. Of course, Hall is worth a risk being he’s part of a proposed package you mentioned.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

If Carolina wants Skjei they're going to have to give something good to get him. He gets shit on alot here but he's in his prime and signed to a decent deal for the next 4 years

Some picks and prospects ain't gonna cut it

 

[Trxjw]

Carolina has a lot of nice pieces in their system, but I'd be surprised if Skjei went for just futures. They have 4 LHD on their roster as it is with Bean knocking on the door and the Rangers would be losing a big piece of their left-side. Would stand to reason that a guy like Fleury might come back in the deal or perhaps even Gardiner.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

"Spamming shots on net" is not a positive.

You're probably arguing semantics. Forcing a shot on goal when there's a better play or pass to be made isn't positive, and no one would argue that. But ability to get the puck on net from the point through traffic, is. Trouba has proven he's pretty good at that.He does lead all NYR defenseman in 5on5 shots.

 

[RGY]

We need bodies. We cant just keep collecting draft picks and prospects that will be 3 years away.

 

[NYSPORTS]

We need bodies. We cant just keep collecting draft picks and prospects that will be 3 years away.

agree, it’s supposed to be a rebuild rather than forever building.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Carolina has a lot of nice pieces in their system, but I'd be surprised if Skjei went for just futures. They have 4 LHD on their roster as it is with Bean knocking on the door and the Rangers would be losing a big piece of their left-side. Would stand to reason that a guy like Fleury might come back in the deal or perhaps even Gardiner.

I understand them having a passing interest in Skjei to anchor their second pair, but Carolina isn't exactly bare on defense.

Jake Bean is almost a PPG player in the AHL. Fluery isn't a bad player at all. And it's Gardiner's first year, it feels really sudden to hit the eject button already

 

[charliemurphy]

A pool of potential names in Boston - Frederic, Lauko, Hall, Forsbacka-Karlsson. I know posters have floated a name like Heinen out there. I haven't heard him come up in conversation, but I think it's a logic thought that makes sense to me.

Colorado - Jost, Kaut.

Trading with Colorado isn't as easy as some would think. I think both GMs can be picky when it comes to prospects. And I'm sorry for Jost fans but with his history and regression as a prospect, he shouldn't move the needle for Krieder. I rather go after some combination of Kaut, Beaucage and Ranta on top of the 1st. Rather avoid Colorado altogether.
Kreider to Boston for 2020 1st, Heinen and Fredric sounds about right although I'd love to have Beecher. No interest in JFK at all.

 

[Off Sides]

We need bodies. We cant just keep collecting draft picks and prospects that will be 3 years away.

I think they are aware. they've traded for Fox, Lemieux, Howden, Hajek, Lindgren, over the past two deadlines who have all played in the NHL and we may be able to add Rykov to that at some point this season.

Kakko, Chytil, even Lias played in the NHL (depending on if a cup of coffee or more games is a requirement to count) within 1 to 2 seasons after being drafted.

 

[Ghost of jas]

We need bodies. We cant just keep collecting draft picks and prospects that will be 3 years away.

You can use those assets to get ‘bodies’, like Gorton did for Fox and Trouba.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Would rather keep Kreider and move Strome.

Andersson for Bennett. Probably have to attach a draft pick.

Georgiev to Toronto for Kapanen+

Strome traded after the season.

Rangers extend Fast who can be exposed during expansion draft.

Kreider re-signed.

Skjei sticks for now.
Buchnevich sticks for now.
-I think the two above can be packaged for a top 15 1st round pick or young up and coming LD in the offseason.

But for now:

Kreider-Zib-Kapanen
Bennett-Strome-Panarin
Kakko-Chytil-Buch
Lemieux-Howden-Fast
Smith


Yes, I am aware the trade Kreider crowd will hate this.

Bennett still only 23, Kapanen 24. Thats the right age range to be grabbing those guys. Bennett brings a nice mix of physicality

id do Andersson for Bennett but I doubt the Flames would. maybe Anderson Buchnevich for Bennett and 1st