Speculation: Roster building thread XXIV:

[Fitzy]

still loving the idea of a georgiev and CK to vegas thing

this kid would slot in nicely no ?

Your cuse bias is showing

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

We have 1

we have 1 cup in 79 years. Of which I’ve watched 44 of them. We’ve gone to the finals 3 times since 1975. Id say that’s pretty mediocre. Hopefully we put the right players together and long term success comes.

What makes me sleep better at night is that the elite level talent up front is there in Panarin, Zibanejad, and eventually Kakko. The defense's talent level has improved immensely over the last year as well. We seem to have an embarrassment of riches at goaltender.

The missing piece is building NHL-caliber depth into the lineup beyond the top few players. Theoretically, that should be the easiest thing to accomplish when it comes to foundationally making this team a contender, but we shall see.

 

[Raspewtin]

if we did anything with the Blues is there a chance Kostin is available?

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Carolina has a lot of nice pieces in their system, but I'd be surprised if Skjei went for just futures. They have 4 LHD on their roster as it is with Bean knocking on the door and the Rangers would be losing a big piece of their left-side. Would stand to reason that a guy like Fleury might come back in the deal or perhaps even Gardiner.

I agree with what @Edge and others have said about Skjei being undervalued by this board, and I agree that Carolina has a lot of nice pieces that would interest me.

What I don't understand is why Carolina would want him. I would think they would be using their surplus of LHD to improve elsewhere...

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Well I haven't been keeping tabs on them too much, but I do know they've been rumored to be interested in Brodin and Dillon. So they're obviously not satisfied with their LHD for whatever reason and are looking for upgrades. I know Fleury hasn't quite taken the steps forward they were hoping for and Gardiner, at least last time I checked, wasn't quite fitting in with the system that well. Plus having 3/4 of your top-4 locked up for 4 more years helps you manage the cap for when guys like Hamilton and Svechnikov need big money deals in the next two years.

Carolina has no qualms about making big moves though. They're the one team I could see pulling out the stops at the deadline for a major deal. Fantastic prospect pool. Multiple 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. Most of their key guys are young and under great contracts. Bit of a perfect storm.

BOO.

 

[kinger8998]

ADA is a completely different player than Trouba. If ADA gets traded due to depth, it won't be because of Trouba. It will be because Fox and/or Lundkvist have made him expendable.

Fox is incredible. But he's not DeAngelo dynamic. Fox will be an extremely good two-way defender for a long time, you can see it in the way he thinks the game. Good one on one, great patience, rarely makes a bad outlet pass or gets beat off the rush.

DeAngelo cannot be made expendable by either Lundkvist or Fox. We have no one else like him and we would not be smart to let Tony go.

 

[Trxjw]

I agree with what @Edge and others have said about Skjei being undervalued by this board, and I agree that Carolina has a lot of nice pieces that would interest me.

What I don't understand is why Carolina would want him. I would think they would be using their surplus of LHD to improve elsewhere...

For whatever reason it seems like they're unhappy with their left side. I really think it's likely due to Gardiner not really working out thus far. I think there was a rumor a few weeks back that he might be on the block. So if they can move him and replace him with Skjei, I guess they call that a big upgrade.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Skjei probably does very well in Carolina. He wouldn't have the burden of being a 1D, as that is covered by Slavin. And he'd probably be playing with either Hamilton/Pesce, who are very good RD.

It's an ideal situation for him honestly

 

[doomscroll]

Fox is incredible. But he's not DeAngelo dynamic. Fox will be an extremely good two-way defender for a long time, you can see it in the way he thinks the game. Good one on one, great patience, rarely makes a bad outlet pass or gets beat off the rush.

DeAngelo cannot be made expendable by either Lundkvist or Fox. We have no one else like him and we would not be smart to let Tony go.

Uhhh I think we’re watching two different DeAngelos...

 

[Leetch3]

Skjei probably does very well in Carolina. He wouldn't have the burden of being a 1D, as that is covered by Slavin. And he'd probably be playing with either Hamilton/Pesce, who are very good RD.

It's an ideal situation for him honestly

more ideal would be for us to get a #1 LD and put him in that situation here

 

[Leetch3]

Uhhh I think we’re watching two different DeAngelos...

i think the comment you bolded was about fox

 

[mulli25]

more ideal would be for us to get a #1 LD and put him in that situation here

With what's going on with the right side, there is zero chance we can afford to have Brady Skjei as our second highest paid LD.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I could see one of the Carolina LD’s coming back in a deal for Skjei.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Frankly, the Rangers and Canes match up perfectly. Georgiev, Skjei, Kreider, Fast...Carolina could use all of them.

 

[kinger8998]

Uhhh I think we’re watching two different DeAngelos...

That point was about Fox. I was saying Fox is an incredible two-way defender, as illustrated by his one on one skills and his outlet passes, along with his obvious offensive talent.

DeAngelo is a work in progress (he's gotten much better) on defense, especially with one on ones. DeAngelo does really excel with outlet passes though, so creative.

Simply wanted to say that Fox and DeAngelo are different players, and Fox would not be able to make DeAngelo's offensive abilities expendable, but also wanted to praise Fox because I know some people would take the first comment as me bashing Fox with the way people react on these boards

 

[RGY]

You're a Ranger fan and are scared of prolonged periods of mediocrity? Boy do I have news for you!

Lol BRB....oh I am aware. 2000-2007 were torturous. Just painstaking. Empty promises made over and over again with bad decisions behind them.

Kinda why I very much appreciate what we got out of the 2011-2012, 2013-2014, and 2014-2015 teams. Heck even that small run by the 2016-2017 team that should have resulted in an ECF visit that is neither here nor there.

 

[bobbop]

Reading this thread today two things stood out...

1. The “trade Trouba” noise seems to be dying out. Good.
2. With no games this weekend, there’s plenty of time for trade speculation. The reporters need something to write about. Teams are constantly checking in on players but whether those players have been made available is another matter altogether.

That said, I’d remind people of a few things. It takes less than an hour to negotiate a contract. Teams and agents will both use the press to pump up the market. A good amount of the rumors you read are made up and finally, smart agents and teams find a way to keep their important business away from the press. You can always answer a question by not telling the whole story.

 

[Kocur Dill]

At some point you have to pivot and transition.

I will be honest...I am terrified of being the Islanders, Oilers, Sabres, Coyotes that get stuck in the middle of a prolonged 10+ year episode of mediocrity. Life just passing by.

1) we do a lot better at finding talent outside the first round than those teams do.

2) we draw free agents better as well.

Our Brass would have to be terrible at their jobs for us to emulate the droughts those teams put up. And before we argue about the 90s/00s those were different times. Jr, Euro, & NCAA are light years ahead of that era when it comes to conditioning and system based play. Today's prospects are a different breed than back then and the chances of finding worthwhile talent in later rounds is a better percentage.

NYR totally benefits from being who they are vs Small market teams, where the cap keeps everyone equal in player salaries, there is no cap on coaching, training, facilities, scouts, trainers, etc...

 

[bobbop]

Lol BRB....oh I am aware. 2000-2007 were torturous. Just painstaking. Empty promises made over and over again with bad decisions behind them.

Kinda why I very much appreciate what we got out of the 2011-2012, 2013-2014, and 2014-2015 teams. Heck even that small run by the 2016-2017 team that should have resulted in an ECF visit that is neither here nor there.

You should have been here in the 1960s

 

[Fireonk]

Frankly, the Rangers and Canes match up perfectly. Georgiev, Skjei, Kreider, Fast...Carolina could use all of them.

I'm not really seeing why they would be interested in our UFA rentals. They aren't an aging team that is looking at a limited window, they have a good young core and have plenty of time to take their shot. Not sure I see them as the ones pulling the trigger on Kreider or Fast.

 

[Thirty One]

That point was about Fox. I was saying Fox is an incredible two-way defender, as illustrated by his one on one skills and his outlet passes, along with his obvious offensive talent.

DeAngelo is a work in progress (he's gotten much better) on defense, especially with one on ones. DeAngelo does really excel with outlet passes though, so creative.

Simply wanted to say that Fox and DeAngelo are different players, and Fox would not be able to make DeAngelo's offensive abilities expendable, but also wanted to praise Fox because I know some people would take the first comment as me bashing Fox with the way people react on these boards

Why do you hate Fox?

 

[doomscroll]

i think the comment you bolded was about fox

Yeah I totally failed to comprehend that, my mistake.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Say what you want about Fox but he's on pace for 47 points in his rookie season in the league

Saying he can't be as dynamic as DeAngelo is premature at this point

 

[bobbop]

Lebrun's entire blurb on the Rangers is much more insightful than some of the selected comments culled from the article.

New York Rangers
My sense is the Rangers want to take as long as they can to see where they are at the deadline. Which is to say they haven’t pulled the plug on the season yet. It’s a daunting task in the Muscled Metro where six teams are already at 60 points or more, but the Blueshirts (50 points) want to use the dozen games left before the deadline to see if they can make a push. It signals that they want to compete again as soon as possible. Which means they’ve not ruled out re-signing their pending UFAs, if possible. Kreider is the headliner on the leaguewide trade deadline rental list and the team hasn’t begun contract talks yet.

“We haven’t been talking, which is not a big deal because there’s no rush,’’ Kreider’s agent Matt Keator told me Wednesday. Indeed, all it takes is one conversation about 10 days from the deadline to know whether or not both sides can get a deal done. Pending UFA Jesper Fast, a popular player and teammate, could also be on the move to a contending team looking to add bottom-six depth. But I think all things being equal the Rangers would rather re-sign him because he’s such a great role model for the younger players. Like Kreider, his camp had not heard from the Rangers yet regarding an extension. Still lots of time there to figure things out. And finally, there’s the three-goalie situation with the Rangers listening on Alexandar Georgiev but not necessarily fully committed to moving the 23-year-old. This can all be dealt with in June, too. But what I would say is the Rangers want to turn the page on rebuilding and take the next step sooner rather than later. Which means if they do trade Kreider, for example, the return will warrant it. It’s not a must to deal him.

 

[RangersFan1994]

New York Rangers F Ryan Strome on trade deadline: 'I really hope I stay' - TSN.ca