Speculation: Roster building thread XXIV:

[GAGLine]

did Hartford sing a G to a PTO? My Leaf buddy says there board assumes its a Georgiev deal coming lol

According to the AHL transactions page, we signed Francois Brassard to a PTO, and Huska was assigned to Maine. That could be just to get him games while Shesty is getting games in Hartford. Or maybe they want to help him regain some confidence after his recent outings.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Hope the Rangers obtain the Leafs #1 pick and the Leafs miss the playoffs.

 

[Fitzy]

All accounts are that ADA has been popular in the NYR locker room.

He's a dick, sure, but there's a difference between the kind of 19-20 year old dick that doesn't know the difference between ribbing and bullying, and what guys often grow into at 23-24 years of age.

I'm sure there are some guys who don't love ADA in the locker room. That's fine- this is nowhere close to Avery level and ADA is twice the contributor that Sean was even in his best season.

Note- I know we are supposed to keep character discussions limited, but I'm not referencing his politics. He could wear a Che Guevara t-shirt while attending Quebec sovereignty rallies with a red hat and I wouldn't give two shits in a toaster.

 

[Thirty One]

Hope the Rangers obtain the Leafs #1 pick and the Leafs miss the playoffs.

The pick is top 10 protected.

 

[Thirty One]

Thought this was funny. Rangers top pairings for CF% this season:
DeAngelo-Fox: 72:04, 68.83%
DeAngelo-Trouba: 24:01, 57.14%
Fox-Trouba: 37:01, 56.82%

Almost all offensive zone starts.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Thought this was funny. Rangers top pairings for CF% this season:
DeAngelo-Fox: 72:04, 68.83%
DeAngelo-Trouba: 24:01, 57.14%
Fox-Trouba: 37:01, 56.82%

Almost all offensive zone starts.

DeAngelo-Fox should be a full time thing.

 

[kinger8998]

DeAngelo-Fox should be a full time thing.

Small sample size with majority offensive starts when down a goal, but still incredible for the last 10 minutes of any given game that you send Tony-Fox over the boards that they control the play 70% of time.

I’d love to see a test run to get a larger sample. I think it’s a really smart idea for the future of the Rangers

 

[offdacrossbar]

i think this whole ADA attitude/bahavior thing amounts to exactly zero.

if quinn is being honest with what he says about tony and his personality, then i think everything is good with those 2 and as long as thats true, this is a non story.

his production on the ice is the story. the only story.

take a moment and look back at his last 80 games played and certainly his production this season alone. this is a pretty decent sample size.

the kid is an offensive machine. last 2 seasons, 67 point in 109 games played. +11

6/5 years seems about right. fox is still a rook, so hes fine plus a bridge for 2 more years. those 2 should be a thing for the next 5 yrs esp. on the PP and when offense is needed.

the LEFT side of this defense is a tire fire. address that


for anyone not wanting to believe the above, quinn played tony almost 26 mins last game and almost 7 mins of PP time. we were behind i get that, but till, quinn rode his horse. imagine not having tony here next year when we are behind.... fox is good but is he that good ?

quinn trusts him. alot.

 

[Thirty One]

for anyone not wanting to believe the above, quinn played tony almost 26 mins last game and almost 7 mins of PP time. we were behind i get that, but till, quinn rode his horse. imagine not having tony here next year when we are behind.... fox is good but is he that good ?

I mean, we could compare Fox and DeAngelo each at 21 years old.

 

[Salvage21]

The point was brought up from someone earlier - who do they have to protect on defense for expansion draft purposes?
Trouba, DeAngelo, SKjei... Lindgren? Hajek?

It would be a real shame to lose lindgren.. Hajek, fine. Can't just let them take someone like Skeji or especially DeAngelo for nothing. Move a defensemen for a young foward (maybe even expansion exempt) is something to seriously consider.

 

[TheTakedown]

He has a good motor and some evident talent that he hasn’t capitalized on. But there’s nothing particularly specific about him that makes him an attractive target. I can’t point to size, speed, physicality, a plus shot, two way acumen, or anything specific that makes Jost’s game feel like it gets you excited. I more just hope that if we acquired him he could kind of put together some sort of consistency as a 40+ point guy. And I didn’t mean for that to be isolated to you, you’re always an informed poster with valid opinions. If you’re higher on Jost than I am there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s only my individual opinion that it’s his draft pedigree that has most people interested. I don’t think it’s impossible for him to, for instance, switch to the wing and mesh in a new environment. It’s just my opinion that he’ll be a sort of nondescript borderline top sixer who isn’t well suited to a bottom six role.

Jost is stuck behind a lot of talent. That's the only thing holding him back.

 

[Thirty One]

The point was brought up from someone earlier - who do they have to protect on defense for expansion draft purposes?
Trouba, DeAngelo, SKjei... Lindgren? Hajek?

It would be a real shame to lose lindgren.. Hajek, fine. Can't just let them take someone like Skeji or especially DeAngelo for nothing. Move a defensemen for a young foward (maybe even expansion exempt) is something to seriously consider.

I like Lindgren, but I'm not going to move heaven and earth to not lose him to Seattle.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I like Lindgren, but I'm not going to move heaven and earth to not lose him to Seattle.

he’s physical and this teams needs that. Hoping he remains a Ranger

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The team only has a problem with defensemen for expansion if you're worried about losing Lindgren/Hajek. Which I'm not

Right now, the 3 obvious protections on D are Trouba, Skjei and DeAngelo. Fox is exempt

 

[RGY]

DeAngelo-Fox should be a full time thing.

Helps the LD-RD questions.

DeAngelo is the best candidate to move to the Left side since he gets caught out of positioning roaming around all over the ice anyway. Might as well put him on his off side. And to be quite honest its worked.

Lindgren can then settle in with Keane/Lundkvist over the next 1-2 years.

It leaves us with the need for really only one LD as opposed to 2. Move Skjei for a forward. Use assets to upgrade the LD #1 spot.

 

[Blue Blooded]

The contract is me guessing, but I think you're probably looking at $6 million+ on the next deal, especially if ADA hits certain "magical" pleateaus such as 20 goals and 60 points. As if this post, he's on pace for both and (I believe) has scored in excess of 50 points over his last 82 games.

I have a hard time seeing the Rangers move him, unless they are absolutely blown away by an offer. They've invested a lot in him to get to this point. And frankly, the plateau he is hitting puts him into a very exclusive club. If he was hovering around the 45-50 point range, I think there's a greater possibility the Rangers would move him --- especially with Fox and Lundkvist in the organization. But at his current level of production? I just don't think they have the balls to do that.

As for the comparison to JT, I just think they're on very different levels for their respective positions. If Miller was posting 70-80 points as a wing, I don't think he gets moved. That's probably the point we've reached with ADA.

I also don't think his personality and past experiences have little or no impact on how the Rangers view ADA in 2020. Literally no one I've talked to within the organization, or with connections to the organization has ever mentioned a problem with anything related to his world views or things of a personal nature. There have been things they've wanted to see from him on the ice, including how to channel his emotions. But almost to a person, everyone has cited his personality type as something the Rangers value --- especially with the proper guidance. So I do not believe that is going to be a factor.

Right or wrong, players are held to different standards then coaches or executives --- primarily because they aren't seen as being in positions of power where they can completely derail someone else's career. I think if anything ever came out, I think ADA would be advised to own it and then the team would likely rally around him and share stories about the person he's become. Granted, that's me speaking as a public relations executive. But I am willing to bet that a similar approach would be taken by the Rangers current comms teams.

DeAngelo has scored 57 points in his past 82 games for the Rangers:

 

[Fitzy]

I'm not entirely convinced that Skjei is here come next offseason, so that's not a major issue in my mind.

 

[Thirty One]

he’s physical and this teams needs that. Hoping he remains a Ranger

Same. But I'm not going to trade to defenseman and have a forward get claimed because I'm worried about it.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I'm not entirely convinced that Skjei is here come next offseason, so that's not a major issue in my mind.

would love to move him

 

[cheech70]

ADA has been getting more opportunities with the public relations department. Just watched him on MSG describing his hat trick and the 5 point game. Also you never saw him being interviewed in between periods and he is now a semi regular. It looks like they are expanding his exposure.
. He always gives praise to his teammates and is humble regarding his excellent play. The temptation with senior management is a stunningly great young forward being made available as in the Seth Jones trade.

 

[kinger8998]

I'm not entirely convinced that Skjei is here come next offseason, so that's not a major issue in my mind.

I agree with this. I’m not convinced Skjei doesn’t get moved, but it raises the question of who is in that spot if this team hopes to make playoffs next year/contend year after.

Skjei isn’t great under the current system, but Staal certainly can’t play top with Trouba, Hajek failed this year, and I think lindgren is fine where he is and would suffer like Hajek.

I think Skjei still has potential, and he’s not nearly as bad as made out to be. If you’re ridding of him and still hoping to move forward, we need a viable replacement

 

[Leetch3]

Hope the Rangers obtain the Leafs #1 pick and the Leafs miss the playoffs.

their pick is already locked up in the marleau deal, if its not in the top 10 the canes get it.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I mean, we could compare Fox and DeAngelo each at 21 years old.

It needs to be mentioned again, but Fox has basically been a hockey deity for the last month+.

I want to keep both of them, but Fox is such a stud and IMO already worthy of being a #2 on a championship level team.

 

[Leetch3]

The team only has a problem with defensemen for expansion if you're worried about losing Lindgren/Hajek. Which I'm not

Right now, the 3 obvious protections on D are Trouba, Skjei and DeAngelo. Fox is exempt

agreed...assuming skjei and deangelo are still here. the worst case scenario is losing lindgren. I like him but given his upside and the LD depth in the system i'm not worried about it.

 

[NYSPORTS]

their pick is already locked up in the marleau deal, if its not in the top 10 the canes get it.

thanks!!!

gee, that’s not good for the NYR.