Speculation: Roster building thread XXIV:

[True Blue]

Brooks’s report that he’s being shopped right now suggests that mgmt has already come to that conclusion.

I do not see any Brooks report that suggests that DeAngelo is being shopped

 

[eco's bones]

I'd be shocked if the Rangers moved Trouba and IMO it would almost certainly be a stupid move on our part. He's our main matchup defenseman and also our main penalty killing defenseman. DeAngelo and Fox (at least not yet) don't really do those things at least not with any regularity.

 

[broadwayblue]

I'd be shocked if the Rangers moved Trouba and IMO it would almost certainly be a stupid move on our part. He's our main matchup defenseman and also our main penalty killing defenseman. DeAngelo and Fox (at least not yet) don't really do those things at least not with any regularity.

I can't see him being moved now. Maybe in a year or two, but in the next month? Doubtful.

 

[Drew4u]

I'd be shocked if the Rangers moved Trouba and IMO it would almost certainly be a stupid move on our part. He's our main matchup defenseman and also our main penalty killing defenseman. DeAngelo and Fox (at least not yet) don't really do those things at least not with any regularity.

Yes, no question Trouba plays against top players and penalty kills. But, is he actually good at penalty killing. The team ranks 22nd in pk%. Not exactly great. Quinn has never tried DeAngelo or Fox much on the PK. Although they're more "offensive minded" there is the chance that they could prove to be more effective. Regardless, I can't see the team moving on from Trouba so quickly.

 

[Lion Hound]

You forgot weird hair. And eyebrows.

I feel like Domi could star in Peaky Blinders. Has that look.

 

[Drew4u]

And personally, I don't value "all situations" players as much as others. I've always felt that teams should be acquiring 4th liners or bottom pairing defenceman who specialize on the penalty kill rather than using your top players.

 

[Procrastinator]

You guys really need to move on from Trouba. He ain’t going anywhere.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Aside from Nylander, who is the equivalent of Trouba at forward that we could see Gorton making a similar deal to acquire?

Not sure if he'd be available but Nik Ehlers would be a nice addition.

 

[Thirty One]

And personally, I don't value "all situations" players as much as others. I've always felt that teams should be acquiring 4th liners or bottom pairing defenceman who specialize on the penalty kill rather than using your top players.

For forwards ok, but kinda tough for defensemen where you need at 4 of your 6 to PK regularly.

 

[Avery16]

I do not see any Brooks report that suggests that DeAngelo is being shopped

And as most of the trade deadline talk has been focused on Kreider, Strome, Tony DeAngelo and Alexandar Georgiev, Buchnevich is certainly to be a topic of conversation in the executive suite as Feb. 24 approaches.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/20/range...wont-change-pavel-buchnevichs-trade-standing/

 

[EdJovanovski]

Yes, no question Trouba plays against top players and penalty kills. But, is he actually good at penalty killing. The team ranks 22nd in pk%. Not exactly great. Quinn has never tried DeAngelo or Fox much on the PK. Although they're more "offensive minded" there is the chance that they could prove to be more effective. Regardless, I can't see the team moving on from Trouba so quickly.

Exactly
People use a players usage to justify bad performance, but the players are there because they're supposedly good at carrying that load. I'm not going to just assume Trouba would put up DeAngelo-like numbers if he had his usage, that's a similar argument to people who think a 3rd liner putting up crazy P/60 means they'll put that up over a larger sample size of top 6 mins. There are defensemen who get very challenging deployment yet excel, Trouba isn't one of them. There are guys who are great defensively, physical, and great PK'ers that you can find for far under 8 mill per season

 

[Edge]

That would cost quite a bit I’d think.

If we got a 1st back in a deal for Kreider

Late 1st + one of Kravstov/Lundkvist/Miller is what I think would have to be the offer at least

Probably would have to add another young guy, maybe Howden

Indeed. If they went that route, the cost would be high.

 

[Trxjw]

DeAngelo is moving past being a 50 point defenseman and into a completely different DeAngelo. One that frankly, Fox will find a hard time attaining. But as they are here and seeing what they are doing, I would presume that you have a better chance of some of the other RD prospects being moved to shore up a weakness than you do him. And seeing how his defense is on his natural side, moving him to a different side should be out of the question.

I'm not ready to anoint him as anything just yet, nor do I think he's going to drastically out perform Fox to the point that it makes Fox look pedestrian by comparison. DeAngelo is producing so much that it's overshadowing just how good of a rookie season Fox is having.

 

[Thirty One]

There are defensemen who get very challenging deployment yet excel, Trouba isn't one of them. There are guys who are great defensively, physical, and great PK'ers that you can find for far under 8 mill per season

Well let's get those guys!

 

[Raspewtin]

I'd keep an eye on Meier in San Jose, their potential need to regroup, and a desire to get some assets flowing in sooner.

timo meier would be a dreammmm

 

[DanielBrassard]

Well let's get those guys!

Trade Trouba and swing a deal for Josh Manson, easy.

But seriously if that was a possibility the Rangers should probably do it. Trouba is not going to be worth 8M most likely, considering he won't get top PP minutes. Manson could replace his responsibilities at 5v5 and on the PK.

 

[Fitzy]

I do not see any Brooks report that suggests that DeAngelo is being shopped

Here's a quote I found from Brooks post Columbus game...

"And as most of the trade deadline talk has been focused on Kreider, Strome, Tony DeAngelo and Alexandar Georgiev, Buchnevich is certainly to be a topic of conversation in the executive suite as Feb. 24 approaches."

Edit- another guy beat me to it. I had to give viewership to the shitrag that is the NY Post for no good reason.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I mean no one outside of Brooks is talking about trading DeAngelo...

like the only reason I could see trading him is they think he’s going to ask for the moon in the summer (which isn’t outside the realm of possibility)

and even then that’s not a good reason to move him

 

[Trxjw]

Apparently Bennett and Jankowski have both asked for trades out of Calgary. Still like Bennett as a project.

 

[ZiGOODejad]

Apparently Bennett and Jankowski have both asked for trades out of Calgary. Still like Bennett as a project.

I wouldn’t mind either of them. Edit : didn’t jankowski just resign?

 

[NYR Viper]

Apparently Bennett and Jankowski have both asked for trades out of Calgary. Still like Bennett as a project.

Id take a shot at both of those guys.
With Bennett asking out, Andersson for Bennett?

 

[Lays]

Sam Bennett available. He’d be a solid get, Lias+ for Bennett makes sense considering Calgary was interested in Lias

Lemieux-Howden-X
X-Bennett-Fast

Would be a great foundation for a bottom 6. Still think we should go after Alex Tuch for that 3RW spot

 

[kinger8998]

I would say the best bet is to start trying out DeAngelo on the left side of Fox on a more regular basis. A top 4 of Skjei-Trouba DeAngelo-Fox is ideal if it can work.

DeAngelo has the potential to be a perrenial 60-point defenseman, and you shouldn't just be giving those away without exercising all options to keep him. Obviously if you're paying the man, you want him playing top 4 and not 3rd pair, so this is the only option really.

I thought the Rangers considered this when Trouba's NMC doesn't kick in until next year, but someone informed me that has something to do with the rules as opposed to the Rangers being smart. Go figure. Trouba will be around for the long haul, and we should start evaluating him based on defensive performance and not points, because without the top PP time he'll never reach that next level.

 

[Fitzy]

I would say the best bet is to start trying out DeAngelo on the left side of Fox on a more regular basis. A top 4 of Skjei-Trouba DeAngelo-Fox is ideal if it can work.

DeAngelo has the potential to be a perrenial 60-point defenseman, and you shouldn't just be giving those away without exercising all options to keep him. Obviously if you're paying the man, you want him playing top 4 and not 3rd pair, so this is the only option really.

I thought the Rangers considered this when Trouba's NMC doesn't kick in until next year, but someone informed me that has something to do with the rules as opposed to the Rangers being smart. Go figure. Trouba will be around for the long haul, and we should start evaluating him based on defensive performance and not points, because without the top PP time he'll never reach that next level.

The amusing part of this thought experiment though is that despite how much prospect depth we have at D we legitimately don't have any right handed guys ready to step in on the third pairing in this scenario.

Keane isn't ready and Lundkvist is still in Sweden.

I'd be open to the idea of Smith as the 3RD, but no way Quinn goes for that. Staal on the right? Mild nausea.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Sam Bennett available. He’d be a solid get, Lias+ for Bennett makes sense considering Calgary was interested in Lias

Lemieux-Howden-X
X-Bennett-Fast

Would be a great foundation for a bottom 6. Still think we should go after Alex Tuch for that 3RW spot

According to Rick Dhaliwal on TSN 1040, Sam Bennett and Mark Jankowski have both asked for trades.

I'd gladly be interested in Bennett. He is gritty and would fit well here. Tough, gritty, will fight for the team and skilled.


Andersson and Buchnevich for Bennett, Dube and 2ed in 2020??