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Speculation: Roster building thread XLIX ”U Can’t Always get what U Want”

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Faceless said:
But do those teams fit the parameters of 'juggling some contracts?' I'm not as familiar with their cap situation.

Everyone is discussing Toronto right now and there are rumors flying about regarding their activity. I feel like they are so desperate to make moves right now to clear space. They have Zaitsev, Marleau who have both asked out - there's rumors about Nylander, Kadri and Marner. You'd have to think we would be looking at Nylander or Marner in this situation - plus possibly taking back Marleau for a buyout.
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I took @Edge 's comment to mean different teams. Some looking for help, and another that's juggling contracts.

When I think of teams that are desperate to get into the playoffs, I think: ARI, BUF, EDM, FLA. FLA seems to be all about going all in on Panarin and Bobrovsky, so I'd probably count them out as trade partners, unless they miss out on one or both.

When I think of teams juggling contracts, I think of: VGK, TBL, TOR.
 
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What Door said:
I took @Edge 's comment to mean different teams. Some looking for help, and another that's juggling contracts.

When I think of teams that are desperate to get into the playoffs, I think: ARI, BUF, EDM, FLA. FLA seems to be all about going all in on Panarin and Bobrovsky, so I'd probably count them out as trade partners, unless they miss out on one or both.

When I think of teams juggling contracts, I think of: VGK, TBL, TOR.
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Just re-read his post and I agree with what you said. Is there anything of interest that is realistic for us from VGK? What about Buf?
 
Does anyone have info on whether Gorton and the rest of the Ranger contingent is going out for breakfast, or ordering room service? I understand the situation is fluid, but my need for details is a little overwhelming right now.
 
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Luger said:
Honestly, can I call BS here? The Rangers may or may not make a trade; preferably sooner, but may be later; no mention of the player or the team; could be a large 4-5 players trade or a smaller one; it is a calculated risk." That is literally words with no information to cover all bases so that no matter what happens, you can say you called it.

"The first person you meet tomorrow may or may not be a woman, probably in the morning but could be later in the day, can't tell you his or her name, nor if s/he will be walking alone or with friends, and it will be someone who takes risks, but only if they dont expose him/her to too much danger."

At least vet the rumor with the mods so they can confirm you have something and that you predicted what will actually happen after it happens. This way it isn't online, but we know you're not throwing the widest possible net hoping the Rangers pull a trade during a trade-heavy time of the year, while also piggybacking on BBKers info, so you can later claim you called it. Otherwise, I don't believe this is real.
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Somebody is new here

Both Edge and BBKers have been vetted.

Enjoy
 
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Ken Lund said:
Does anyone have info on whether Gorton and the rest of the Ranger contingent is going out for breakfast, or ordering room service? I understand the situation is fluid, but my need for details is a little overwhelming right now.
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After a heavy night of drinking and hitting a few high class strip joints,i would think room service
 
Blackhawkswincup said:
What do you guys think will happen with Vladislav Namestnikov?

If he is traded what do you expect to be Rangers target in a trade?
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I think Vesey is more likely to be traded than Vlad. I feel like he would be an add-on to a trade, or would go for a 2nd round pick.

Unless we need the cap space suddenly, I just don't see him having much value by himself and the Rangers would probably hold onto him until the deadline if that were the case. It's also more likely cap space would be made by getting rid of one of our big D contracts, whether via buyout, or retention in a trade.
 
Faceless said:
Just re-read his post and I agree with what you said. Is there anything of interest that is realistic for us from VGK? What about Buf?
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I really don't know with VGK. I would say Colin Miller, but we already have too many RHD. Maybe Stastny? Making $6.5M for another two years. 33 years old. We could use a 2C to insulate our youngsters and replace some of Hayes' production. VGK's cap situation is a mess. They have a bunch of middling players that aren't really all that overpaid, but also aren't very tradeable. It's like death from a thousand cuts. I could see them moving on from Stastny though, if they're confident Glass can step in. Stastny has a 10-team NTC, which I doubt NYR are on.

With BUF, their most attractive, touchable asset is probably their 1st.
 
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jas said:
Vegas is almost certainly about cap relief. I would think Gorton could be looking to pry 17OA as another opportunity to add another 1st.
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or something ridiculous like clarkson glass and 1st for kreider and LA. If KK is the likely target with the #2 pick glass could slot as the 2c behind zibs allowing chytil to stay on the wing. I believe Glass was a previous target in his draft year?
 
Blackhawkswincup said:
What do you guys think will happen with Vladislav Namestnikov?

If he is traded what do you expect to be Rangers target in a trade?
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I've often thought of him as the 2nd piece in a larger deal, rather than someone being worth trading himself. For example, before the Trouba trade, I used to float an idea along the lines of Skjei+small forward add like Namestnikov or Vesey

I'd be surprised to see him go on his own unless it was for a "can't refuse" kind of deal.
 
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Also, while I’m not a mod,, so I cannot officially vet him, I will say that along with @Hunter Gathers and @Draft Guru, @Edge is the poster that I have the longest interaction with on this site, going back to discussing Stefan Cherneski and what a great looking prospect Jamie Lundmark is. He is a valuable resource to this site, and to see posters question his motives is rather infuriating, given his candidness regarding what information he can give us. He’s not doing it for attention. He has a hell of a lot more to his life than satisfaction from a hockey message board.
 
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Faceless said:
Just re-read his post and I agree with what you said. Is there anything of interest that is realistic for us from VGK? What about Buf?
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We know there have been conversations with both teams. Risto might have been a target, but probably not now that we have Trouba. I keep saying that Gusev could be a target, but maybe it's William Karlsson. Or maybe we are doing Zib for Stastny and Glass. Both Stastny and Patches have been rumored to be moved to free up cap space. Glass was a guy we really liked in his draft year and tried to trade up for. Maybe we also get a pick. Vegas has 6 picks in the first 3 rounds.

I think Zib would be considered an upgrade on Stastny and Glass and a pick would certain represent a future move. Stastny holds the fort for 2 years and comes off the books with the rest of our big contracts. Could possibly be re-signed for a smaller AAV and term. Glass becomes a stud (hopefully) and we use the pick + assets from a Kreider trade to get Zegras or Cozens.

I'm not advocating this trade, but I think it makes some sense and does fit with the information we have.
 
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or something ridiculous like clarkson glass and 1st for kreider and LA. If KK is the likely target with the #2 pick glass could slot as the 2c behind zibs allowing chytil to stay on the wing.
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Clarkson has a no-trade clause which he has invoked about being moved to high tax areas. He’d likely decline a trade to the Rangers, and has already invoked it with regard to a Canadian team (I would assume Ottawa.)
 
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Faceless said:
I think Vesey is more likely to be traded than Vlad. I feel like he would be an add-on to a trade, or would go for a 2nd round pick.

Unless we need the cap space suddenly, I just don't see him having much value by himself and the Rangers would probably hold onto him until the deadline if that were the case. It's also more likely cap space would be made by getting rid of one of our big D contracts, whether via buyout, or retention in a trade.
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Namestnikov drew a lot of interest around the league at the trade deadline. While the Rangers like his versatility, they realize he has value.
 
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Faceless said:
I think Vesey is more likely to be traded than Vlad. I feel like he would be an add-on to a trade, or would go for a 2nd round pick.

Unless we need the cap space suddenly, I just don't see him having much value by himself and the Rangers would probably hold onto him until the deadline if that were the case. It's also more likely cap space would be made by getting rid of one of our big D contracts, whether via buyout, or retention in a trade.
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I was wondering if Rangers could be potential landing spot for Anisimov

You guys seem to want to improve rapidly and AA is a good vet C (I believe your still uncertain about your C situation) he can also slot into LW as he played there at times last year

I was thinking a Nam for AA deal may make sense. + AA is good mentor for young Russians that may be coming to NY (AA was good with Panarin when he came over)

Hawks are looking to get younger and in this case they are mostly a wash cap wise for this coming season (Nam at 4M vs AA at 4.55M) with AA having that extra year while Nam is UFA next summer
 
So it’s most likely not a Marner type player, as he’d be franchise altering.

Probably a young top 6 complimentary guy who could turn into something more. Definitely think Vesey to Buffalo with the possibility of it being more and getting the 7th OV. If not that Kreider to AZ for 14th OV. Possibly a deal with EDM for 8th overall.

Sounds like a “larger” package is being offered to one of these teams in hopes of snagging a pick and said young top 6 player.
 
Blackhawkswincup said:
I was wondering if Rangers could be potential landing spot for Anisimov

You guys seem to want to improve rapidly and AA is a good vet C (I believe your still uncertain about your C situation) he can also slot into LW as he played there at times last year

I was thinking a Nam for AA deal may make sense. + AA is good mentor for young Russians that may be coming to NY (AA was good with Panarin when he came over)

Hawks are looking to get younger and in this case they are mostly a wash cap wise for this coming season (Nam at 4M vs AA at 4.55M) with AA having that extra year while Nam is UFA next summer
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I highly doubt the Rangers would be interested in something like this. Names grew his game a lot last year to fit Quinn's style. They know what they have with him and I think management likes him.

The Rangers aren't going to trade younger pieces for older pieces. Despite their desire to improve, every move being made has an eye on the future. Anisimov is at the tail end of his career. He makes no sense for us right now. Maybe if he was a UFA, but not for an asset that has legitimate value and can be used in a package or for a pick of its own.

Also, Names is Russian and has played for years in the league. Your point about helping young Russians makes no sense since you're just moving one for another.
 
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