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Speculation: Roster Building Thread XIII

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LaffyTaffyNYR said:
really? I thought they would at least need his rights since MTL has them until FA opens dont they?
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Seattle technically has the player's right by selecting him. It's a bit of a chicken and egg thing, but bottom line is, yes, they can give any UFA an 8 year deal right now.
 
LaffyTaffyNYR said:
wait Seattle is picking players already?
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Looks like they were filming a gimmicky video for the selection show that airs tomorrow on ESPN. When each player is selected, they'll likely have some sort of Seattle themed video saying who was picked, obviously would have to be pre-recorded in order for that to work.

Someone who was in the area while it was filmed leaked a video of them filming it.
 
Fitzy said:
(Shrug)

I like Zach Hyman the player.

He's an even strength scoring machine. He pretty much gets all of his production at 5 on 5 which we need more of.
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Hyman is an awesome player. Just where the hell does he fit and WITH WHAT CAP SPACE???????????????
 
duhmetreE said:
Give him 7x6

we need toughness and work ethic
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I wasn't totally against the salary (just the term) of the Goodrow deal but if it comes with this too....

That's at minimum, 6 years and $9.6 million tied up in two middle six wingers. I'd throw up in my mouth.
 
Polar Bear said:
Hyman is an awesome player. Just where the hell does he fit and WITH WHAT CAP SPACE???????????????
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I forsee Strome going for a draft pick and Buchnevich going for an ELC player.

Hyman would only be an option if we moved Chytil to 2C and didn't find a Strome replacement.
 
Polar Bear said:
Hyman is an awesome player. Just where the hell does he fit and WITH WHAT CAP SPACE???????????????
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Or where does he play? I frankly can't understand how we are linked to some of these wingers, unless we are going to ship out Buch AND Kakko/Kravtsov for a package on Eichel.
 
FireDavidQuinn said:
Will be physically ill if we give up a first round pick for Nick Deslaurier
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There is a <1% chance of this happening IMO. We're not trading a 1st for a 13F type guy.

Friedman speculated if Deslauriers may fetch a first round pick. Then Marek asked if maybe a team in the Metro, perhaps that just signed Goodrow may be interested in Deslauriers to address their Tom Wilson problem. Just speculation.
 
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Glen Sathers Cigar said:
There is a <1% chance of this happening IMO. We're not trading a 1st for a 13F type guy.

Friedman speculated if Deslauriers may fetch a first round pick. Then Marek asked if maybe a team in the Metro, perhaps that just signed Goodrow may be interested in Deslauriers to address their Tom Wilson problem. Just speculation.
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Ryan Reaves fetched a 1st :huh: so did Paul Gaustaud back in the day
 
TheBloodyNine said:
Nothing they get will increase their sales revenues for next year, least of all an unhappy player who publicly doesn't want to be there. I'm not sure why this trade is going to be the straw that breaks the camels back for a team that has only known disorder and disfunction for the large majority of its existence and has a current playoff drought of over 10 years at this point.
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I meant for the Rangers. Buffalo is a lost cause.
 
brakeyawself said:
Also, regarding Eichel..... someone in the last thread said "What would Aho or Barzal have done on Buffalo the past 6 years?" in regard to comparison with Eichel.

And I actually do believe if Barzal or Aho had been on the Sabres for the last 6 years, they might have at least had 1 playoff appearance, which they didn't have with Eichel.

Again, it's not that Eichel isn't fabulously skilled or that he doesn't put up PPG or more stats. He would qualify for both of those things.

But what I haven't seen from him is the drive to win, to sacrifice his game and offensive stats, if necessary for a win. Which I believe, just using my eyes, is something both Barzal and Aho do for their respective teams. And part of the reason why their teams do so well, aside from being talented teams. Well, in the case of Barzal, it might not be so much talent as chemistry and good coaching, but either way.

I still stick to my Tavares comparison for Eichel. Great talents, great stats, great fantasy players, but questionable drive and ability to carry a team towards a playoff spot in the NHL, And unless a player can do that, I am not sure if the Rangers need them. We have enough pure talent as is. We need to find chemistry and the drive to win games. So I don't see it being a wise option to a) trade possible future, star prospects and b) Pay top dollar in salary, against the cap for a center that doesn't bring those winning qualities.

I could be wrong about Eichel. But I don't think he's proven me wrong YET. Tavares on the other hand, has shown time and time he's just not the type of player to push or carry a team on his back. And I wouldn't want to pay like 8-11 mil a season for Tavares either. What we really need on this team now is a John Toews type of player, not necessarily a guy who can put up 90 points a season, but a guy who will do his best to make his teammates better and do his best to get the win. And that could come in a less spectacular, less prolific scoring type of center. Which shouldn't cost us as much in a trade or against the cap. People mentioned Larkin, and maybe he could be that guy. But if I had to pick the ideal center I think we need right now, it would probably be Bo Horvat. A player I would absolutely love to get. But likely zero chance the Canucks would trade him for anything reasonable. Schenn might be another one.

And I see a bit of that mentality I think in Dvorak. Who also seems a bit underrated if this thread is any sign. All though he probably wouldn't be at the top of my "we should trade for them" list. Similarly, Danault or even Gourde. If we want to be thrifty. Larkin might be good, but can't see Yzerman moving him now after he's become captain. Might even consider like, Ryan Johansen if we could get him at a discount. It's kind of all relative to the price we would have to pay though, as usual.
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Buffalo would have likely been worse if they had Aho or Barzal as they are worse players than Eichel.
 
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