Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[Mac n Gs]

If the core flamed out why would the team rebuild when the majority of the team would be 25 years old or younger. Fans need to stop with the nuclear rebuild option when we are still one of the younger teams in the league. They arent rebuilding with Fox signed long term and Igor in his prime. Nor should they

My comment was a hypothetical scenario specific to Laviolette. He burns teams out, doesn’t help develop younger players, and leaves them for worse when he’s eventually fired. I just simply hate that he’s even in discussion here since it’s just absurdly lazy and trying to be safe, when it’s really just stupid. He’s a good interview and makes it seem like he cares about these things, but his results of late speak for themselves.

The top guys are eventually going to age out of their current roles and require the younger core to start taking over. That’s why it’s important for their to be better structure in place and to put them in positions to succeed now while our other top players are still in their primes.

 

[McRanger92]

My comment was a hypothetical scenario specific to Laviolette. He burns teams out, doesn’t help develop younger players, and leaves them for worse when he’s eventually fired. I just simply hate that he’s even in discussion here since it’s just absurdly lazy and trying to be safe, when it’s really just stupid. He’s a good interview and makes it seem like he cares about these things, but his results of late speak for themselves.

The top guys are eventually going to age out of their current roles and require the younger core to start taking over. That’s why it’s important for their to be better structure in place and to put them in positions to succeed now while our other top players are still in their primes.

Fair enough. It's sad that Quinn tried to teach the team some structure but was laughed at and publicly tuned out by career losers Strome and Panarin to the point where they had to fire him. He was hard on the Kids but he was also never given the chance to get his point across after JD & Gorton cut his legs out from under him with the contracts they gave out trying to be starf***ers

 

[tomobson]

Separating Mika and Panarin is the easiest way to make life a living hell for whoever will be the next coach. Put them together and all of the sudden it becomes a lot easier for the rest of the lineup to play "the right way". Kreider is a good weapon but when he's with Mika his brain is only thinking about one thing...living off the rush. Kreider plays a more complete game in the ozone with Trocheck/Chytil. You'll have one extremely talented top line that might be good enough to E/W even in a playoff atmosphere. The rest of the lineup will forecheck the other team till their legs fall off.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

AFP whos deadly accurate had Jesper Fast getting 2 X $2.3. If thats his price we should be paying it ALL DAY. We need players like him so bad and slot him in with panarin and chytil so it speeds up bread

They have gostisbehere at 4 X 4.8. See if he’ll take 4 X 4.5 and we can squeeze it. Just means we gotta trade trouba next offseason which I dont think anyone has an issue with.

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Panarin-chytil-fast
Kreider-trocheck-vesey
Cuylle-brodzinski-motte

Lindy-fox
Kandre-trouba
Gostisbehere-schneider
Harpur

Igor
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[RangerBoy]

People talk about the Panthers. Good luck convincing this group to dump the puck and go get it back. One dimensional team.

 

[haohmaru]

People talk about the Panthers. Good luck convincing this group to dump the puck and go get it back. One dimensional team.

Just proof that Gallant was not "smart" and, like we all know, isn't adaptable. He wanted "his" players to play "his" way instead of adapting the system to suit the most talented forward group in my lifetime if not EVER. This is why his ass got chewed out after game 4 and why he got fired after game 7.

"Look what I did I the regular season. DURR. DURR. DURR."

Idiot.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Not expecting a significant off-season. We’re gonna dump Goodrow and use that money to sign Halak, Acciari, and P Brown.

 

[Leonardo87]

I’m going to say something unpopular, I think Kane is back

Kane + Q combo is absolutely in play

 

[tomobson]

AFP whos deadly accurate had Jesper Fast getting 2 X $2.3. If thats his price we should be paying it ALL DAY. We need players like him so bad and slot him in with panarin and chytil so it speeds up bread

Panarin is not going to speed up even if you put two Hagelins on his line. Panarin wants the game to slow down. Strome was a good center for him because he also slowed the game down. The problem for Panarin is the center situation and not the RW. Trocheck/Chytil are the anti-centers for Panarin.

 

[B17 Apricots]

This is what I have been harping on for more than a few weeks. There are spots that may be attractive to the player and those specific teams. I have mentioned Nashville multiple times. That's a team with a core group of players, (Josi, Forsberg, McDonough) that could propel that team to the playoffs. Nashville is in an interesting spot as they have a boatload of picks in the nest (2) drafts (12 picks in the first 3 rounds in the next 2 years) and yet could very conceivably with some small tweaks make the playoffs next season. They also have ample cap space.

Duchene and Panarin have the same term left and almost identical real $$ left on their deal. Panarin is clearly the better player and yet Duchene plays RW which is an area of need for the Rangers. He also would add a considerable amount of speed to the lineup. The difference is Duchene has an $8m cap hit while Panarin's is $11.6m. That helps with the Rangers ability to maneuver their cap hell.

Trotz had a vote in pursuing Panarin when he was with the Islanders so he knows the player. He'd fit in well with their core veteran group and the actual cash due to the players is very reasonable so for a team with an internal budget, he may be very attractive. They pursue the playoffs and the revenue that comes with it without over-extending their budget.

Tennessee is also has no state income tax. Panarin would get an immediate pay bump and move to another fantastic city in Nashville.

Hell if Nashville were a player I wouldn't even target one of their main guys. They have a good chunk of cap space so they don't need to send back much money. I'd target Sissons to replace Goodrow. Better on faceoffs, PKs. They have several prospects that would be of use to us. Svechkov is a great 2way center prospect but he didn't play a huge role in the KHL this year. He'll be coming over to NA this coming season but I don't see him being an immediate help. Tomasino and Evangelista are both pushing for full time NHL spots. They could help bolster right wing. Kemell also plays on the right side, but he may need some more AHL time as well.

I don't think the Preds would be crazy about moving any of those guys but gotta give to get. Tough to see what direction they're going in. They gave up on Tolvanen but judging by their deadline deals it wouldnt lead you to think they're thrilled with their core either but if they're looking to make a push while they still have Josi, Forsberg, etc, playing at a high level, then a Panarin deal could make some sense. I just wouldn't shoehorn ourselves with a big contract like Duchene. He's a good player but I'd rather get good value and cap space to turn around and sign Tarasenko, Kane, etc..

 

[RangersFan1994]

Not expecting a significant off-season. We’re gonna dump Goodrow and use that money to sign Halak, Acciari, and P Brown.

P Brown rather have someone from Hartford like Cuylle over Brown.

 

[CommaSynapse]

Separating Mika and Panarin is the easiest way to make life a living hell for whoever will be the next coach. Put them together and all of the sudden it becomes a lot easier for the rest of the lineup to play "the right way". Kreider is a good weapon but when he's with Mika his brain is only thinking about one thing...living off the rush. Kreider plays a more complete game in the ozone with Trocheck/Chytil. You'll have one extremely talented top line that might be good enough to E/W even in a playoff atmosphere. The rest of the lineup will forecheck the other team till their legs fall off.

Kreider - Trocheck - Goodrow was a pretty tenacious line when they were together. Kreider did similarly with Strome, too. Mika catches on with anyone.

It's Panarin who I always have trouble placing because that line chemistry is always lacking. He'll get points, sure, but having a winger, or even just a player in general, that he has that next-level chemistry with would be huge for the lineup.

It wasn't Tarasenko, Kane, Kakko, Goodrow, Vesey, Vatrano, Copp, Chytil, Trocheck... On paper, he needs a goal-scorer to feed and someone to do the dirty work.

 

[mas0764]

My point being, we're back at square one. 100 point teams that made the POs with ease? Sounds like 2012-2018.

I told everyone.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I told everyone.

You’re in no position to take a victory lap lol.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

P Brown rather have someone from Hartford like Cuylle over Brown.

I project the 4th as being Edstrom / Brown / Cuylle with Brodz as 13th

 

[mas0764]

You’re in no position to take a victory lap lol.

Sure I am. The Rangers weren’t good enough to win absent tremendous luck and some other team getting that luck doesn’t disprove the rule.

 

[Fitzy]

I agree, specially that a proper coach can make miracles happen, but I highly doubt the FO identifies the right guy.

My point being, we're back at square one. 100 point teams that made the POs with ease? Sounds like 2012-2018.

The team that's gonna win the cup this season had 91 points and made it by 1

 

[RangersFan1994]

AFP whos deadly accurate had Jesper Fast getting 2 X $2.3. If thats his price we should be paying it ALL DAY. We need players like him so bad and slot him in with panarin and chytil so it speeds up bread

They have gostisbehere at 4 X 4.8. See if he’ll take 4 X 4.5 and we can squeeze it. Just means we gotta trade trouba next offseason which I dont think anyone has an issue with.

Laff-mika-kakko
Panarin-chytil-fast
Kreider-trocheck-vesey
Cuylle-brodzinski-motte

Lindy-fox
Kandre-trouba
Gostisbehere-schneider
Harpur

Igor
Halak

Bertuzzi, Severson, Orlov projected for richest contracts among Top 50 Free Agents

A new projection model vaults Bertuzzi near the top of the board after his short but stellar playoff showing.

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Rather have a kid like Trivigno make it on the 4th than resign Motte. Let another rookie have that RW spot.

 

[duhmetreE]

AFP whos deadly accurate had Jesper Fast getting 2 X $2.3. If thats his price we should be paying it ALL DAY. We need players like him so bad and slot him in with panarin and chytil so it speeds up bread

They have gostisbehere at 4 X 4.8. See if he’ll take 4 X 4.5 and we can squeeze it. Just means we gotta trade trouba next offseason which I dont think anyone has an issue with.

Laff-mika-kakko
Panarin-chytil-fast
Kreider-trocheck-vesey
Cuylle-brodzinski-motte

Lindy-fox
Kandre-trouba
Gostisbehere-schneider
Harpur

Igor
Halak

Bertuzzi, Severson, Orlov projected for richest contracts among Top 50 Free Agents

A new projection model vaults Bertuzzi near the top of the board after his short but stellar playoff showing.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

I don’t get the love fest for ghost. Saw very little from him this playoffs for nearly $5M

Just use Jones

 

[I Eat Crow]

I don’t get the love fest for ghost. Saw very little from him this playoffs for nearly $5M

Just use Jones

Ryan Lomberg beat him up at the bus stop and took his lunch money in Game 4. Hard pass.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

The team that's gonna win the cup this season had 91 points and made it by 1

Sure, yet they have big nut carrying ballers, and we have the same type of bitch ass players, like a shy Rick Nash, that will unleash every minute now, just watch.

(Points not meaning anything was my point)

 

[RangerBoy]

Just proof that Gallant was not "smart" and, like we all know, isn't adaptable. He wanted "his" players to play "his" way instead of adapting the system to suit the most talented forward group in my lifetime if not EVER. This is why his ass got chewed out after game 4 and why he got fired after game 7.

"Look what I did I the regular season. DURR. DURR. DURR."

Idiot.

Maurice changed the way Florida played to a simpler game. Florida barely made the playoffs. Maurice isn’t some genius. They are on a big time run with their two best players playing the best hockey of their careers.

Most talented forward group ever??? I would rather have will instead of skill in the playoffs where time and space to make plays is limited. The Rangers have too much east and west in their game. North and south wins in the playoffs. Get the puck in deep. Forecheck and go get it.

Florida plays big boy hockey. The Rangers weren’t winning playing east and west. Their roster was not built for playoff hockey. Too many similar players.

 

[Vitto79]

I don’t get the love fest for ghost. Saw very little from him this playoffs for nearly $5M

Just use Jones

The Easiest move is to waive Harpur cause he will clear and can be 8th on the depth chart

Play Jones I agree but sign a cheap vet 7 that can play LD/RD.

Smith was always the pick over Nemeth for example

No way Hajek can come back . Trade him for a minor leaguer

 

[Vitto79]

Not expecting a significant off-season. We’re gonna dump Goodrow and use that money to sign Halak, Acciari, and P Brown.

Ideally as long as it doesn’t cost assets to move Goodrow. He’s still a good player

They need to have Vesey viewed as the 13th . Play Cuylee

Halak has to take 900 k or look elsewhere
He should be the Rangers Brian Elliott. Penny pinch that spot and play Domingue / Garand some if Igor gets hurt if needed too. Basically 3 cheap backups

 

[Savant]

Maurice changed the way Florida played to a simpler game. Florida barely made the playoffs. Maurice isn’t some genius. They are on a big time run with their two best players playing the best hockey of their careers.

Most talented forward group ever??? I would rather have will instead of skill in the playoffs where time and space to make plays is limited. The Rangers have too much east and west in their game. North and south wins in the playoffs. Get the puck in deep. Forecheck and go get it.

Florida plays big boy hockey. The Rangers weren’t winning playing east and west. Their roster was not built for playoff hockey. Too many similar players.

Florida ironically was one of the worst teams I saw live this year. The best team I saw live this year was actually Vegas.

in the NHL the hot goalie is the great equalizer. You don’t need a Vezina goalie in the playoffs. You need someone to go unconscious