Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[Trxjw]

If only we could get of those overpaid UFAs we signed. Then we could finally address the real problems with this team by overpaying other guys this summer.

Same shit, different summer.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I think it’s mostly about the fact we had to pay a premium asset to dump him yet our bottom pairing has not really been any better.

It needed to happen for Miller to get reps. They weren't going to not play him if they kept him, they literally played a better defenseman at forward so he could play.

Our bottom pair would have been worse had they kept Staal. He's been realllllly bad for Florida (xGA/60 at 5v5 of 4+ for the Panthers, which is the worst on the team which surprised me because Ekblad has been ass and he plays more.) Had Bob not been playing out of his mind there would have been a shit load of heat on him.

Plus a 2nd round pick isn't really a premium asset.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Look for Carolina and Calgary to deal again this summer. Both teams will be looking to make changes and have familiarity with each other.

Lindholm, Weegar to Carolina for Jarvis, Skjei, and Martinook.

Jordan Staal leaves in free agency and Lindholm effectively takes his place.

 

[Vitto79]

Pie in the sky idea:

To Nashville
Panarin with $2m retained

To NYR:
Duchene with $2m retained + 2nd '23 + 2nd '24



To CLB
Duchene @ $6m

To NYR:
Texier

Panarin for Texier and 2 seconds ?
Retaining a few million ?

Just keep Bread and run it back

 

[bobbop]

You rang?

It was targeted at a certain poster.

 

[Boris Zubov]

It was targeted at a certain poster.

I was actually pro-Eichel until you reported his locker room issues in Buffalo. Did you get fed bad info or did the kid just grow up & learn from his mistakes?

 

[BroadwayHustle]

I was actually pro-Eichel until you reported his locker room issues in Buffalo. Did you get fed bad info or did the kid just grow up & learn from his mistakes?

He is also leaving a place where he was the guy to an established locker room.

 

[bleedblue94]

Pie in the sky idea:

To Nashville
Panarin with $2m retained

To NYR:
Duchene with $2m retained + 2nd '23 + 2nd '24



To CLB
Duchene @ $6m

To NYR:
Texier

Panarin definitely screams a trotz type player to me

 

[bleedblue94]

I was actually pro-Eichel until you reported his locker room issues in Buffalo. Did you get fed bad info or did the kid just grow up & learn from his mistakes?

The eichel locker room thing had gone back a bit but it became overblown in buffalo. Imagine a year that you draft a player like eichel and your gm is doing interviews w Jack next to him talking about being disappointed. That happened. Everything about eichel in buffalo was tainted and he didn't help the situation but he was constantly made to carry the load of the issues of a franchise that was dysfunctional from the top down. He was just an easy whipping boy, but now he is growing into his game as a man at the NHL level. Honestly, if he came here he prob wouldn't get the tough love he's gotten in Vegas from Cassidy and I doubt he would have grown the same way during the same timeframe. It was the right trade for both teams and for both of the main players in the deal.

 

[UnparalledPark]

I would think most people would be happy for staal. He was a warrior here for us. He was great until the eye injury and honestly given the fact he can basically see out of one eye he did an amazing job here. He was constantly asked to do too much though. Duclair is just another reminder of the orgs unwillingness to commit to young players and develop them. Kids with stand out skills like duke (especially that skating and athleticism) really are brutal to toss aside like nothing.


He's going to be 32 in October when the season starts...

From what I remember about Duclair, over sleeping and being late for practices was not an endearing quality to the coaching staff.

 

[bleedblue94]

From what I remember about Duclair, over sleeping and being late for practices was not an endearing quality to the coaching staff.

Fix your problems with young players or watch someone else fix them and reap the rewards...

 

[CTRanger]

Every silver lining has a dark cloud.

I thought every silver lining had a touch of grey.

 

[Miz]

Just me or did the Forward group get old really fast?

 

[Boris Zubov]

I thought every silver lining had a touch of grey.

Kinda suits you any way.

Just me or did the Forward group get old really fast?

And the prospect pool also got really thin....yet we still have zero elite young talent. Can't say enough about that killer rebuild.

 

[n8]

minor cap saver:

TO SJS:
Barclay Goodrow
4 yr / $3,641,666 AAV remaining

TO NYR:
Nico Sturm
2 yr / $2m AAV remaining

SJS gets a familiar face, cup winner, and leader for their young team with more term
NYR gets a top PK center, 55.8% FOW%, 1.64m in cap savings

 

[bhamill]

With guys like Cuylle and Berard coming, I don’t get the obsession with signing Motte. Even Jimmy Vesey is a better player.

You decide if you need a Motte at the TDL... just like the last two years.

 

[NYR Viper]

Panarin definitely screams a trotz type player to me

Trotz wanted him in Long Island

 

[bhamill]

of all the reasons Panarin will have for not accepting a trade out of NY, does going to a non playoff team even make the list?

How about this? If Panarin goes to a non playoff team, no one will ream him out for sucking unimaginably in the playoffs... Has he looked like a guy who wanted to win a series these last two post seasons? I think a team being out of the running is a plus for him. Get Arizona on the phone!
#8Dchess

 

[Guyute]

Kinda suits you any way.

And that was all I had to say

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I love the idea of people posting on this forum in their underwear on their couch saying “does Panarin have the will to win and if traded, would even want to go to a playoff contender?”

Just absolute nonsense from some of you lol

 

[bhamill]

I love the idea of people posting on this forum in their underwear on their couch saying “does Panarin have the will to win and if traded, would even want to go to a playoff contender?”

Just absolute nonsense from some of you lol

I take umbrage, sir! I am at my job, fully clothed, slacking off!

 

[bobbop]

I thought every silver lining had a touch of grey.

My reference is George Carlin, Yours is Grateful Dead

A matter of age.

 

[Daves a mess]

I thought every silver lining had a touch of grey.

Or a Playbook

 

[bleedblue94]

Trotz wanted him in Long Island

Is that true? I thought Lou did, not sure trotz actually did but after watching him recently I would be shocked that he still would if he actually did.

 

[Boris Zubov]

My reference is George Carlin, Yours is Grateful Dead

A matter of age.

They're both from the same era, so are you saying the Dead had more staying power?