Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[TheDirtyH]

They'd match any offer unless we go to 4 1sts and he's not worth that. Neither is likely but he's definitely not being offersheeted.


I like your plan, would Shattenkirk even be willing to sign here again though, seems like he's over the Rangers lol.

Well it's all a fantasy anyway, just an illustration of how you might retool on the fly and come in with a different mix. The idea for me is to turn laf and Schneider into assets since their redundant/blocked and have presumably the most value as trade chips.

You move on from a couple youngsters but you get two high picks back in a deep draft.

Shattenkirk could easily be subbed for a different, similar player. Just like Jones could go and you use what assets you get for him to fill a spot.

I think they're is plenty to play with at defense. If you can make the cap work at forward, what about some of Calgary's guys since their at a crossroads. Hanafin? Kylington?

 

[I Eat Crow]

Rangers don’t qualify.

It would have to be after the 2023 draft. The Rangers still own their own 2024 and onwards first round draft picks,

@EdJovanovski keep laughing and see what happens


Or he can just demand a trade and make it easy.

This is the way.

If Anaheim wins the lottery, you think Zegras is going to be happy being third fiddle to Bedard and MacTavish? Going with no on that one.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Well it's all a fantasy anyway, just an illustration of how you might retool on the fly and come in with a different mix. The idea for me is to turn laf and Schneider into assets since their redundant/blocked and have presumably the most value as trade chips.

You move on from a couple youngsters but you get two high picks back in a deep draft.

Shattenkirk could easily be subbed for a different, similar player. Just like Jones could go and you use what assets you get for him to fill a spot.

I think they're is plenty to play with at defense. If you can make the cap work at forward, what about some of Calgary's guys since their at a crossroads. Hanafin? Kylington?

No I know it's just an outline and the players are sort of interchangeable. Was just thinking out loud about Shattenkirk in particular. Kylington is intriguing I don't know what his deal is he barely played this season. Hanifin would be a guy I'd like especially if they moved Lindgren out and he played with Trouba while Miller moved up with Fox.

 

[TheDirtyH]

It would have to be after the 2023 draft. The Rangers still own their own 2024 and onwards first round draft picks,


This is the way.

If Anaheim wins the lottery, you think Zegras is going to be happy being third fiddle to Bedard and MacTavish? Going with no on that one.

Haven't all three of those players been considered as potential wingers though? I'd think Anaheim would be much more likely to move one to wing than to drop one out of the top six.

 

[EdJovanovski]

They'd match any offer unless we go to 4 1sts and he's not worth that. Neither is likely but he's definitely not being offersheeted.


I like your plan, would Shattenkirk even be willing to sign here again though, seems like he's over the Rangers lol.

4 Ranger 1st’s not worth it for Zegras? Have you seen our drafting and development?

Andersson, Lundkvist, Kravtsov, Laf

And that’s with a 1st overall which we won’t get anywhere near lol. Sign me up

 

[DanielBrassard]

It would have to be after the 2023 draft. The Rangers still own their own 2024 and onwards first round draft picks,


This is the way.

If Anaheim wins the lottery, you think Zegras is going to be happy being third fiddle to Bedard and MacTavish? Going with no on that one.

I think Anaheim would figure out a way to make it work. Plus in NY where would he even fit? The only thing I could think of is a Chytil+Lafreniere for Zegras type deal

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Can’t we trade for the picks if we have to? I did a simulation on CapFriendly with a 6.5M AAV deal we’re only missing a 2nd

We'd specifically have to get OUR second back. Any old second won't do.

 

[TheDirtyH]

No I know it's just an outline and the players are sort of interchangeable. Was just thinking out loud about Shattenkirk in particular. Kylington is intriguing I don't know what his deal is he barely played this season. Hanifin would be a guy I'd like especially if they moved Lindgren out and he played with Trouba while Miller moved up with Fox.

My thoughts exactly on hanafin, you just have to know what the number to retain him will be. Lindgren might be able to stay for a year since hanafins at under five for one more season, but after that you don't want three defensemen making 8+ imo

 

[Leonardo87]

Can’t we trade for the picks if we have to? I did a simulation on CapFriendly with a 6.5M AAV deal we’re only missing a 2nd

He’s going to get a contract similar to Boldy and Cozens. Would cost the Rangers a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. Which they don’t have.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

The way I see it this team could go one of two ways this season:

Try to contend = the below with a new coach and if Tarasenko takes a team friendly deal (probably 5.5M or less cap hit)
10-93-91
13-72-24
20-16-78 (Othmann)
50-76-26

55-23
79-8
5-4 (then make a deadline deal to upgrade Harpur)

Goodrow is traded for cap relief, Kreider becomes a third line fixture at even strength and transitions to being a PP specialist. Miller is the D on the 2nd unit.

OR

Integrate the kids consistently into the top 6 = the below with a new coach
20-93-24
10-72-13
50-16-78
26-76-21

55-23
79-8
77-4 (Keep Mikkola)

All UFAs are walked away from except Mikkola. Cuylle and Othmann start on the third line. Laf gets a full season at RW and plays opposite Panarin and with Chytil.

PP units are 20 / 93-10-24 / 23, and 50 / 16-72-13 / 79 to start, subject to change based on who's scoring but with a strong preference towards giving kids a long look.

The cap structure just doesn't really permit major changes IMO, so these are the two ways I think the team could go.

If they don't sign Tarasenko and don't move Laf to RW, there's going to be a gaping hole in the top 6 again next year.

 

[DanielBrassard]

He’s going to get a contract similar to Boldy and Cozens. Would cost the Rangers a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. Which they don’t have.

I would love to have him on the Rangers but there's just no path to that happening at least for now.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Zegras is a Bedford kid from a family full of Ranger fans. I'm sure he wants to come here, but unless he's willing to hold out to demand a trade, it's not happening anytime soon.

 

[McRanger92]

Fox Norris Finalist. We hold this guy to an impossibly high standard.

Zegras is a Bedford kid from a family full of Ranger fans. I'm sure he wants to come here, but unless he's willing to hold out to demand a trade, it's not happening anytime soon.

Better hope the Duckies don’t get bedard

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[DanielBrassard]

Fox had a great year, and he was still #1 on the team in every 5v5 metric in the playoffs even if his play wasn't as dominant as we all hoped. Lucky to have him.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Fox had a great year, and he was still #1 on the team in every 5v5 metric even if his play wasn't as dominant as we all hoped. Lucky to have him.

He was #2 in most metrics, unless you aren’t counting Krav. But meh, I didn’t think he had a great year. Was our worst player by a mile in game 7 too. The second half of the year he wasn’t very good, I would’ve nominated Hughes or Montour over him. Or maybe Dahlin

 

[DanielBrassard]

He was #2 in most metrics, unless you aren’t counting Krav. But meh, I didn’t think he had a great year. Was our worst player by a mile in game 7 too. The second half of the year he wasn’t very good, I would’ve nominated Hughes or Montour over him. Or maybe Dahlin

I don't count krav, he didn't even play 30 games. He wasn't good in game 7 but that doesn't overshadow everything else.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He was #2 in most metrics, unless you aren’t counting Krav. But meh, I didn’t think he had a great year. Was our worst player by a mile in game 7 too. The second half of the year he wasn’t very good, I would’ve nominated Hughes or Montour over him. Or maybe Dahlin

You must watch the games through the eyes of your drunk uncle

 

[MrAlmost]

I don't count krav, he didn't even play 30 games. He wasn't good in game 7 but that doesn't overshadow everything else.

You are right not to count Krav, but that's not why. Haha

 

[McRanger92]

The Rangers need to get Fast-er imo

 

[duhmetreE]

Anaheim gets Bedard.

Would they do Panarin for McTavish?

 

[LokiDog]

Anaheim gets Bedard.

Would they do Panarin for McTavish?

We’d be lucky if they would do Lundestrom. Why would any team give up a top 5ish prospect in the world when our nuts are in a vice?

 

[McRanger92]

Trading Panarin is impossible. They need to rehabilitate him.

Panarin-Chytil-Fast

That one is free, Drury.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Clear out money, sign Bertuzzi, trade for Tom Wilson, don’t @ me

 

[LokiDog]

Trading Panarin is impossible. They need to rehabilitate him.

Panarin-Chytil-Fast

That one is free, Drury.

True Life: I’ve had better luck with heroin addicts.

Are we expecting Artemi Panarin, at 32 years old (in October) and the richest and most famous he’s ever been to come to camp a different, more motivated and disciplined player next year? He is what he is. He’s well beyond changing his game for the good of the team. Maybe if he never wins, he’ll do something like that when he’s 36 and taking a 2M deal to chase a Cup, but right now? We’re stuck with exactly what we have.