Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[NYR Viper]

I think we see nibbling around the edges this offseason.

Goodrow
Possibly Lindgren

I’m also expecting to see 2-3 guys brought in who play a style that suits puck retrieval and possession. I’d lean towards:
Brown
Bluegar
Leivo
Motte
Garland (only if bought out)

Gostisbehere

I’d also kick the can in a few guys who can provide some NHL/AHL depth:
Lockwood
Carpenter
Brendan Smith

 

[McRanger92]

Love how people pick on one game and use it to label a person. Did you forget Game 6 when he scored the first goal and set up the next 2 with great feeds. But it does not matter to you because you can't be objective. There were about 10 guys that slept walked through the whole series but no mention. Geez talk about having a selective reasoning. Your talking about a guy that scored over 85 goals in total the last 2 seasons. I will take that any day. But lets promote the guys that disappear for 15-20 gaems a stretch and yet we praise them because they got 35-40 points this year.

Spare me the dramatics. I’m a huge Kreider fan but the guy is not above criticism. He criticized himself for the exact thing I said, I guess he isn’t objective either. Every single player opened themselves up to catching this heat when they shit down their leg after going up 2-0 against a Devils team that was as green as fresh cut grass. None moreso than the guys whose position on the team is most secure. The media has spent the off-season defending Gallant, blaming the kids, and not saying a peep about the veterans who played a 7 game series against our arch rivals on cruise control. Way to set the tone for the rest of the roster! We can look back on Kreider’s great accomplishments when they retire his number in 10 years, but right now I don’t want to hear it.

 

[McRanger92]

I would like to see the possibility of Panarin to St. Louis pursued. On the surface there are reason for all 3 parties to have at least some interest in that

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I would like to see the possibility of Panarin to St. Louis pursued. On the surface there are reason for all 3 parties to have at least some interest in that

Why would the blues be interested?

 

[haohmaru]

Why would the blues be interested?

More importantly, why would Panarin be interested?

 

[McRanger92]

Why would the blues be interested?

It’s all speculation on my end, but it’s been written that Armstrong wants a quick turnaround. Which makes sense given their contract situations. Lots of guys on big long term deals, picks to burn, no big FAs to sign etc. A 3 year window with Panarin, who wouldn’t be the go-to guy for them necessarily, might interest them if they can use it to get out from the Schenn/Krug and Kapanen contracts at the same time.

More importantly, why would Panarin be interested?

Go play with Buch in a less demanding market for a good team if he’s not going to change his ways here. He is going to start hearing boos at MSG very soon if something doesn’t change in his play.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I feel its gonna be basically the same game plan as this year, go with what we have until the deadline and add pieces then. If we get coaches that bring the kids into the top 6 im ok with that idea.

 

[haohmaru]

Go play with Buch in a less demanding market for a good team if he’s not going to change his ways here. He is going to start hearing boos at MSG very soon if something doesn’t change in his play.

He didn't take less money to play in New York because he wanted to be in a market like St. Louis.

This is all pipe dreams. Nobody is booing him during the regular season because he's excellent at having great regular seasons.

He's not waiving to go to St. Louis - or probably anywhere else.

 

[RickChartraw]

I'd hate to see Lindgren go. he has limitations but has the big balls.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I miss the days when they wo

I'd hate to see Lindgren go. he has limitations but has the big balls.

One of the few yes let's make the team more easy to play against. More soft players to NYR. He'd be one of the last players on d id move. Fox is not that good without Lindgren. It showed in the past. Need more defensive guys. Id move Miller before Lindgren although not sure who would net more back in a trade, I would think Miller but Lindgren was part of the Rick Nash trade as a prospect and his value definitely raised since then.

 

[lakeshirts37]

what’s cooley’s floor?

 

[RangerBoy]

Elliotte Friedman had a salary cap update. Some managers and players believe(they are hopeful) the salary cap could go up by $1.5M or closer to $2M for next season instead of $1M. The players are close to paying off the escrow debt. They can raise the cap by $1.5M-$2M without renegotiating the escrow cap. Not more than $2M.

He had previously thought the Rangers would go with an experienced head coach but he found out the Rangers requested permission to speak with Carbery. The Rangers are looking at both types of candidates. Elliotte mentioned Larry Brooks and Mollie Walker writing about certain candidates and they wouldn’t be doing that if there was no possibility of the Rangers hiring that person. Elliotte mentioned Mollie's article on Jay Leach.



The salary cap stuff is after the Rangers information.

The Rangers could be floating names to gauge the public’s reaction.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

what’s cooley’s floor?

From what I've read and very little I've seen of him play, middle 6 center. Depending where you look he's a top 5-10 prospect in the NHL.

 

[LokiDog]

I don't see how they can make any significant changes to the team without trading the kids. At least next year the NMCs become NTCs and Panarin may be easier/more amenable to a move with only 2 year remaining on his contract

This is the truth, and unfortunately, even if we know within 90% certainty that the result isn’t going to better next year, we just have to live with it and hope we can move some of these guys when the NMCs change.

 

[Vitto79]

Friedman and Mareks 32 thoughts mentioned the cap may go up and addition 500 k to 1 million

Not much but better. Still have to bridge Laf and Miller likely

Have to go cheap on a backup , 6/7D
I’d waive Harpur. He will clear
Resign Motte only if hes like 1 million

 

[haohmaru]

Friedman and Mareks 32 thoughts mentioned the cap may go up and addition 500 k to 1 million

Not much but better. Still have to bridge Laf and Miller likely

Have to go cheap on a backup , 6/7D

Jones 6D /Harpur 7D

I’d waive Harpur. He will clear

See above

Resign Motte only if hes like 1 million

3 x 1.1 will do it, I believe.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

More importantly, why would Panarin be interested?

Even more importantly, why do we want to get bent over by St. Louis AGAIN?

 

[lakeshirts37]

This league is such a joke with the salary cap issues. The timing couldnt be worse for the Rangers

 

[Leonardo87]

Friedman and Mareks 32 thoughts mentioned the cap may go up and addition 500 k to 1 million

Not much but better. Still have to bridge Laf and Miller likely

Have to go cheap on a backup , 6/7D
I’d waive Harpur. He will clear
Resign Motte only if hes like 1 million

If we can move about 11.6 million of cap, can really make some more moves.

 

[Vitto79]

This league is such a joke with the salary cap issues. The timing couldnt be worse for the Rangers

It’s crap for like 20 teams
Going to be more cap dumps for picks

 

[NYR Viper]

I will keep saying this over and over but a trade to Nashville makes a lot better f sense. Barry Trotz wanted Panarin on Long Island. That Preds team underachieved this season but should be better next year with some shrewd moves. They have a pretty diehard fan base and are in a no tax state in a fantastic city.

Panarin playing with Forsberg and Josi on the PP would be a pretty deadly combination and the actual dollars spent, should Nashville send back Duchene +, would be nearly identical over the next 3 seasons.

I was thinking more on this and what if both teams retained $2m cap hit? That would of course seem silly except for the fact that if in years 2 or 3 of the remaining term, it makes trading Duchene easier. He has no trade protection.

Duchene plays RW and adds speed to the lineup. He also allows the Rangers to shed almost $4m in cap space.

Duchene + ________ + __________

One of those pieces should be a 1st IMO. Would Nashville trade Trenin?

 

[SA16]

So we are all in agreement then that Duke and Knight for Panarin is a good deal? The let Knight rehab and get back to it with Allaire to flip him to San Jose for Sturm. Bing bang boom.

No, it's an awful deal. You're trading for a player in the player assistance program who we have no use for and will need an extension and a guy with one year left on his deal who is a complementary scorer. You're not going to clear 8M cap space because FLA is unlikely to just pick up the contract without sending a similar amount back.

 

[MrAlmost]

No, it's an awful deal. You're trading for a player in the player assistance program who we have no use for and will need an extension and a guy with one year left on his deal who is a complementary scorer. You're not going to clear 8M cap space because FLA is unlikely to just pick up the contract without sending a similar amount back.

Well when you miss, you miss big. Knight has a contract. It wasn't serious though.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I will keep saying this over and over but a trade to Nashville makes a lot better f sense. Barry Trotz wanted Panarin on Long Island. That Preds team underachieved this season but should be better next year with some shrewd moves. They have a pretty diehard fan base and are in a no tax state in a fantastic city.

Panarin playing with Forsberg and Josi on the PP would be a pretty deadly combination and the actual dollars spent, should Nashville send back Duchene +, would be nearly identical over the next 3 seasons.

I was thinking more on this and what if both teams retained $2m cap hit? That would of course seem silly except for the fact that if in years 2 or 3 of the remaining term, it makes trading Duchene easier. He has no trade protection.

Duchene plays RW and adds speed to the lineup. He also allows the Rangers to shed almost $4m in cap space.

Duchene + ________ + __________

One of those pieces should be a 1st IMO. Would Nashville trade Trenin?

I'd like Tremin and Tomasino off their NHL roster, as far as prospects I like Fedor Svechkov, Adam Ingram

I'd do Duchene + Trenin + Tomasino + Adam Ingram and 1st in 23 and 3rd in 23 for Panarin and Jones.

 

[bhamill]

I would like to see the possibility of Panarin to St. Louis pursued. On the surface there are reason for all 3 parties to have at least some interest in that

The return of Sammy Blais!