Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

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Not really a 3rd line. Top 9 and bottom line. The players are together in a way that would hopefully benefit them and their game. Laf, Z and Kakko have a had chemistry at one point with each other so we should see if the 3 of them can make it happen. Kreider-Tro-Wheeler explains itself. Panarin makes plays, Chytil can score. Vesey is a bigger Fast. Might even get Panarin away from top D matchups, and if it doesnt then another 1 of the lines is getting an easy matchup. And panarin scores that much cause his PP time and ability. His 5V5 play has been slowing down.

If Vesey is on it, it's a 3rd line. Which is where Wheeler should be.

Kreider - Zibanejad - Kakko
Panarin - Chytil - Lafreniere
Vesey - Trocheck - Wheeler
Goodrow - Bonino - Pitlick

Just like @LaffyTaffyNYR and I didn't even look at his lol.
 
Kreider - between 30-35
Mika - between 30-35
Kakko - between 18-25
Panarin - between 25-35
Chytil - between 18-25
Laffy - between 18-25
Goodrow - between 8-13
Trocheck - between 18-25
Wheeler - between 15-20
Vesey - between 8-13

Between the rest of the grocery baggers and kids that make the rare appearance, probably looking at another 15-25 goals.
I added numbers for defenseman to yours since youve given what I consider fairly conservative numbers.
Fox - Between 10-15
Lindgren - Between 1 -5
Miller - Between 8-15
Trouba - Between 8-10
Schneider- Between 3-5
Gustafsson - Between 5- 15 (if its jones, I dont see the range changing that much)


With the low end of those numbers as of the 2022-23 season the rangers would drop from 12th in goals per game.
With the high end of those numbers in the 2022-23 season the rangers would've jumped from 12th to 1st in goals per game.

And the high end does seem possible.
 
One guy I want at some point either at the deadline if Wild is going in the wrong direction or UFA next summer is RW Ryan Hartman. He will be UFA at season ends. RW depth with skill nasty and forechecking ability, yes he is prone to take bad penalties but sometimes you have to deal with that with certain players and the way they play.

















I'd prefer Foligno.

both are gonna cost as UFAs..... but we have Goodrow instead
 
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If he doesn't miss significant time he will fart 30+ goals.
Honestly depends. He's gonna likely lose 5v5 ice time again, and while he should remain on pp1, he had terrible luck last year.
He should hit 25. Anything after that is gonna depend on his tip-in luck.
 
We’ve had such terrible 4th lines since the letter that we scraped together a league-average one last season in Vesey-Goodrow-Motte and everyone thought it was amazing.

It's like when Philidelphia gets a goalie with a save percentage in the .900s for a change
 
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Honestly depends. He's gonna likely lose 5v5 ice time again, and while he should remain on pp1, he had terrible luck last year.
He should hit 25. Anything after that is gonna depend on his tip-in luck.
5v5 ice time is going to be very close for all top9ers. The difference is not that great for each line. I don't know how much Lavi uses his 4th line

If you think Lavi is going to not play Kreider, I don't know what to tell you. Who is he losing 5v5 ice time to?
 
5v5 ice time is going to be very close for all top9ers. The difference is not that great for each line. I don't know how much Lavi uses his 4th line

If you think Lavi is going to not play Kreider, I don't know what to tell you. Who is he losing 5v5 ice time to?
I think Kreider is the 3rd best left wing we have at 5v5.
I dont think panarin is losing ice time.
 
Honestly depends. He's gonna likely lose 5v5 ice time again, and while he should remain on pp1, he had terrible luck last year.
He should hit 25. Anything after that is gonna depend on his tip-in luck.

He’s either eclipsed or paced 30+ in 6 of the last 7 seasons.

This isn’t a new revelation. His goal totals have gone up with league scoring, this is who he is.

The 52 goal season came out of nowhere and he won’t replicate that, but with health he isn’t going to come in at under 30. Even if his 5v5 ice time gets eaten into.
 
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Last 2 seasons 5 on 5 play..

Player A - 39 goals, 51.0 corsi, 3.65 corsi rel
Player B - 32 goals, 51.0 corsi, 3.15 corsi rel
Player C - 30 goals, 53.2 corsi, 4.75 corsi rel
 
I'm excited to see what Kreider and Zib can do when not used as the matchup line against the Crosby's of the world.
 
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I'm excited to see what Kreider and Zib can do when not used as the matchup line against the Crosby's of the world.
I don't mind Kreider as much because he could be a part of a strong possession line that negates other teams top units.... Kreider Trocheck Kakko might be a force

Zibs is horrible at possession, or at least he has been as of late.. It's been mostly one and done when he's involved. He used to be better when he first got here. He was way stronger on the boards and relentless.
 
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the last 3 season evenstrength.

It means less considering we're getting a new coaching staff but it's going to be REAL HARD to argue for Laffy to leapfrog them unless he earns it. He probably should start at RW so that he can play with our 'best talent'.

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Chytil Laffy
Othmann Trocheck Wheeler
Goodrow Bonino Vesey

maybe switch Cuylle for Bonino and have Goodrow 4C. It's most likely Othmann starts in AHL but I can see him surprising and sticking. He seems like an Oshie type and Lavi will love his game.
 
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If Panarin & Laf switched jerseys all the copers would be over the moon and gloat about how they were right and he’s not a bust, he’s an offensive superstar. The same people who think Panarin is our teams biggest problem.
They could have switched jerseys in the playoffs and we wouldnt notice because they were both terribad, and for the record, that is the most pressing issue.
 
They could have switched jerseys in the playoffs and we wouldnt notice because they were both terribad, and for the record, that is the most pressing issue.
5v5/Even-strength charts are worthless when it comes to Playoffs. If Panarin blanks again this postseason, there's literally no point of him being here. We need a full blown redemption arc and Conn Smythe run.

This is the sticking point. You need to be built to win for Playoffs game.... not to go full blown Islanders but there needs to be some design behind it.
 
I like the idea of using Trocheck on the 3rd line in a match up role. Since he mostly played with Panarin last season he winded up having the 2nd most 5v5 time behind Artemi. Zibanejad had less 5v5 time than him. Trocheck was fine last season but that duo of him and AP wasn't inspiring. Maybe find a way to get Chytil some more 5v5 time and start using Trocheck in a more defensive role, more PK minutes. One of the best face-off guys in the league. Gallant underutilized him in that aspect. He played more than double the PK minutes in Carolina the season prior.

Fumbling with a bunch of different combinations that could make sense..

Panarin Zibanejad Wheeler
Laf Chytil Kakko
Kreider Trocheck Goodrow/Vesey

Stack the top line. Zibanejad's most productive line this past season was him, Panarin and Tarasenko, despite being his 3rd most played line combination. Him, Kreider and Vesey was his 2nd most played line combo. Put some talent with the guy, it'd be nice to have someone else that can create on his line. Keep the kids together. That line has had glimpses where they're the most dominant line of either team throughout a game. Next you have that veteran match-up line. After that top line you run the hot combo. If the kids are buzzing play them more. If the vets are buzzing you play them. You need to protect a lead you play them.

Wouldn't mind swapping Laf and Panarin there either.

Kreider Zibanejad Wheeler
Panarin Chytil Kakko
Laf Trocheck Goodrow/Vesey

Keep the CK/Zib duo. After Buch got traded that RW spot next to them has been a revolving door of young players, role players and deadline acquisitions. Wheeler is still a good player that should be able to compliment that duo. I like that next line. I dont mind flipping Kakko with Wheeler but Chytil & Kakko have shown good chemistry. They can create space and draw in defenders circling the zone. The idea that Panarin is on the receiving end of their ability to work the zone is sweet. Laf saw some time with Panarin and Trocheck this year, Kakko got some the year prior. Aside from Strome, Trocheck, etc.. we've also seen a decent chunk of time go to Hunt, Goodrow and Vesey with AP under Gallant. Quite frankly, we have very little idea of how the young players might gel with Panarin. Chytil has hardly ever got the chance. Kakko and Laf have gotten limited opportunity. The biggest thing for the young players is not to defer. Times where they've gotten split up and put with the vets they stop playing their game and unload everything to the older players. If they're not playing together this year they need to stick to their game. That 3rd line above is the same idea as the other one. All 3 of those guys are physical, it should be a hard line to play against.
 
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