Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[bubba5]

Goodrow needs to be on one of the top two lines. Those lines have no grinders as we saw against NJ. The problem with our top 3 lines was that none of the guys can battle on the boards and actually win the battle.

 

[McRanger92]

At 36, I could see it.

Wheeler is a 35+ player so they could sign him for a $1MM base and bonuses that potentially roll into the following year. I’m not advocating the Rangers load up on bonus contracts but he could be a very useful add.

If he's coming dirt cheap, it's hard to find a better option. My concern has always been with the locker room stuff. Is our leadership core strong enough to absorb another loud voice? Im not totally convinced, but Trouba is our Captain and he knows Wheeler well so maybe theyll get his input.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Wheeler apparently prefers the East coast on his next deal. Same agent as Kreider too. I doubt he is signing for 1mil or lower though

1.5 + bonuses maybe?

 

[bobbop]

Something I’m seeing is that there is a general reduction in goalie value similar to the way running backs are being devalued in the NFL. When a journeyman like Adin Hill can win a Stanley Cup, that says a lot. Antti Niemi was at much different. Probably the biggest Piece of evidence is that no one seems to be running to Winnipeg to trade for Connor Hellybuck, who is clearly a top three NHL goaltender. All of this is relevant to the Rangers who have Igor‘s contract expiring in two years. That will be one worth watching.

 

[RGY]

 

[Crease]

Guess they’re hanging onto Goodrow?

 

[bobbop]

If he's coming dirt cheap, it's hard to find a better option. My concern has always been with the locker room stuff. Is our leadership core strong enough to absorb another loud voice? Im not totally convinced, but Trouba is our Captain and he knows Wheeler well so maybe theyll get his input.

Wheeler, by every account, is a terrific locker room influence.

 

[McRanger92]

Something I’m seeing is that there is a general reduction in goalie value similar to the way running backs are being devalued in the NFL. When a journeyman like Adin Hill can win a Stanley Cup, that says a lot. Antti Niemi was at much different. Probably the biggest Piece of evidence is that no one seems to be running to Winnipeg to trade for Connor Hellybuck, who is clearly a top three NHL goaltender. All of this is relevant to the Rangers who have Igor‘s contract expiring in two years. That will be one worth watching.

The Rangers can't even think about going with a less pricey goalie until the 5v5 play improves dramatically.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Wheeler, by every account, is a terrific locker room influence.

Wait like seriously? Wasn’t he a big part of the toxicity in that wpg locker room.

 

[RGY]

Rangers need to take this same approach

 

[McRanger92]

Wheeler, by every account, is a terrific locker room influence.

Was he not stripped of the captaincy last summer? From an outsiders view, it seems like Winnipeg was always a very talented team that always under performed. Been called out by their last 2 coaches to the point that Maurice quit midseason. Maybe Schefiele is the problem, but Wheeler seemingly wasnt able to reel him in either.

Im willing to give the benefit of the doubt if he's here, but a lot of odd stuff has come out of Winnipeg in the past few years.

 

[bobbop]

Wait like seriously? Wasn’t he a big part of the toxicity in that wpg locker room.

I don't think he was ever an issue. The people i know speak very highly of hIm.

 

[Avery16]

Goodrow needs to be on one of the top two lines. Those lines have no grinders as we saw against NJ. The problem with our top 3 lines was that none of the guys can battle on the boards and actually win the battle.

I hadn’t considered tanking but you’re right this might be the approach now.

 

[Crease]

Something I’m seeing is that there is a general reduction in goalie value similar to the way running backs are being devalued in the NFL. When a journeyman like Adin Hill can win a Stanley Cup, that says a lot. Antti Niemi was at much different. Probably the biggest Piece of evidence is that no one seems to be running to Winnipeg to trade for Connor Hellybuck, who is clearly a top three NHL goaltender. All of this is relevant to the Rangers who have Igor‘s contract expiring in two years. That will be one worth watching.

Goalies are inconsistent. One season they can be top five in Vezina voting. The next season they can be average. The special goalies are not special because they're so much better than the rest (they're not), they're special because they're consistent season over season. You pay Igor because you know he's going to give you great goaltending for the next few years. But you can probably go bargain bin hunting for a goalie who can put the same numbers as him next season.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'm all about league minimum-$1M contracts. If some vets are willing to take that, awesome.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Guess they’re hanging onto Goodrow?

Unless the 83.5 cap is BS, I don’t know how they do that without bridging Key and carrying a 21 roster

 

[bl02]

Rangers need to take this same approach

How come we can't sign a bottom 6 guy like that for a million? Probably doesn't want to come to NY

 

[Crease]

How come we can't sign a bottom 6 guy like that for a million? Probably doesn't want to come to NY

$1M barely buys you a studio apartment in Harlem. Pretty sure I saw Vesey living under the Queensboro Bridge but not many are willing to slum like him he's a character guy.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Ugh, I really want Duchene. Zibanejad, Duchene, Trocheck - would be incredible

 

[MrAlmost]

How come we can't sign a bottom 6 guy like that for a million? Probably doesn't want to come to NY

We have one. Vesey. But the Rangers are only allowed 1 per league rules.

 

[bl02]

Ugh, I really want Duchene. Zibanejad, Duchene, Trocheck - would be incredible

Not gonna lie his speed would be nice.

Drury- "Hey Matt wanna take a million bucks"...Hello Hello anyone there?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I’m thinking Wheeler might actually be a good player to play with Panarin to do all the dirty work maybe put Zib or Chytil between for some speed

 

[DanielBrassard]

Ugh, I really want Duchene. Zibanejad, Duchene, Trocheck - would be incredible

Duchene isnt a center anymore he’d be on the wing. No shot he’s coming to the Rangers.

 

[NYR Viper]

I’m thinking Wheeler might actually be a good player to play with Panarin to do all the dirty work maybe put Zib or Chytil between for some speed

Wheeler's demise is GREATLY dramatized. The guy is still a good top-6 winger with size. His reach, like Kaako, makes him a weapon at stealing pucks and holding possession. He's been a good defensive forward for years but people don't watch enough Winnipeg games to know.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Rangers need to take this same approach

Goodrow can be their 4C..

Wheeler's demise is GREATLY dramatized. The guy is still a good top-6 winger with size. His reach, like Kaako, makes him a weapon at stealing pucks and holding possession. He's been a good defensive forward for years but people don't watch enough Winnipeg games to know.

Ideally we need speed but again we can’t be beggars. All depends what he would want