Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[Machinehead]

We should at least get some royalties for writing their articles for them.

I'm looking at you in particular, Dave Shapiro.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Same as I've been saying for months. We value them.

Options are:

1) Fire them
2) Ignore them
3) Keep them

May he we can buy them out.

 

[Machinehead]

May he we can buy them out.

This may or may not be one of the options. Read my blog about it where I pick neither of those sides.

 

[bhamill]

Can we trade our beat writers?

Not without a sweetner.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Not without a sweetner.

Is Mollie Walker considered a sweetner?

 

[pld459666]

The Devils are now head and shoulders better than us ; they’d sweep.

No money - bloated contracts , dogs, frauds , overrated prospects - we are fkd.

Why would laviollete take this job .

Top of my head??

He has a clue and you do not?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Lafreniere does nothing above average at NHL level. He doesn’t skate above average, he doesn’t shoot or pass above average. He doesn’t defend above average. What does he do? Maybe it’s confidence but it’s not like he didn’t get opportunity.

You are talking about Marchesseault like that’s the rule. He is the exception. There’s a difference

I swear people think this kid is 26 or 27. He's gonna be a good player, he does all those things you mentioned above average, his shot, his passing and even his skating but people wanna dump on him because he didn't put up 80 points as soon as he got here, from a guy who was scouting players during his time in the Q you will all be pleasantly surprised when he's complete. He needs opportunity, confidence and a proper offseason of training. I said it when we drafted both Lafreniere and Kakko that they played like power forwards in junior and that it would take time for them to get enough strength to do it at the NHL level. I said the same about Howden as well, even if he isn't in the same class as the other two and he has finally turned the corner, same with Barron. Everyone here wants instant gratification but it doesn't always work that way, the fan base and the organization have no patience.

 

[NYR Viper]

Something to consider here and it's an important point:

The Rangers signed Barclay Goodrow as a UFA and gave up no assets (although they did trade for his rights I guess) and subsequently gave him a 6 year deal @ $3.62m per season.

The Avalanche just traded a pretty high 2nd rounder for the rights to Ross Colton and are about to give him, somewhere in the neighborhood of $3m per season (this is per APV).

If a team were looking for a bottom-6, swiss-army knife guy with leadership qualities but who may not be a preferred destination for UFA's due to various circumstance, Goodrow would be an attractivr asset for them. He has 4 years left at a reasonable cap hit.

I know we all like to say that he is a 4th liner but his production and usage on (2) straight contending teams (TB and NYR) say otherwise.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Something to consider here and it's an important point:

The Rangers signed Barclay Goodrow as a UFA and gave up no assets (although they did trade for his rights I guess) and subsequently gave him a 6 year deal @ $3.62m per season.

The Avalanche just traded a pretty high 2nd rounder for the rights to Ross Colton and are about to give him, somewhere in the neighborhood of $3m per season (this is per APV).

If a team were looking for a bottom-6, swiss-army knife guy with leadership qualities but who may not be a preferred destination for UFA's due to various circumstance, Goodrow would be an attractivr asset for them. He has 4 years left at a reasonable cap hit.

I know we all like to say that he is a 4th liner but his production and usage on (2) straight contending teams (TB and NYR) say otherwise.

I think Goodrow is tradeable but I'm not sure the oranization is looking to do so. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the roster next season.

 

[NYR Viper]

What are the chances that Montreal buys out Dvorak? He doesn't really have a role there

 

[I Eat Crow]

Whelp, there goes the possibility of 31 and 37 for 23. Would've been perfect.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Yinz have the 14th overall pick, BTW

 

[SA16]

Something to consider here and it's an important point:

The Rangers signed Barclay Goodrow as a UFA and gave up no assets (although they did trade for his rights I guess) and subsequently gave him a 6 year deal @ $3.62m per season.

The Avalanche just traded a pretty high 2nd rounder for the rights to Ross Colton and are about to give him, somewhere in the neighborhood of $3m per season (this is per APV).

If a team were looking for a bottom-6, swiss-army knife guy with leadership qualities but who may not be a preferred destination for UFA's due to various circumstance, Goodrow would be an attractivr asset for them. He has 4 years left at a reasonable cap hit.

I know we all like to say that he is a 4th liner but his production and usage on (2) straight contending teams (TB and NYR) say otherwise.

Colton is way better offensively than Goodrow and could conceivably get a lot of playing time on the first or second line in Colorado (in the spot vacated by Rodrigues).

 

[RangersFan1994]

Yinz have the 14th overall pick, BTW

So Rangers trying to move up. I don't mind this

 

[New York RKY]

The most rangers thing ever would be to move up in the draft to take someone who was a guaranteed second rounder (or a goalie).

 

[GAGLine]

So Rangers trying to move up. I don't mind this

But what would we trade away to do it? Pittsburgh isn't looking for picks and prospects.

 

[duhmetreE]

Stars get Dadonov for $2.25M.... we have Goodrow for $3.6M

one of the many reasons why we never win.

But what would we trade away to do it? Pittsburgh isn't looking for picks and prospects.

Trocheck? only guy I could think of

 

[DanielBrassard]

Yinz have the 14th overall pick, BTW

I couldn't even imagine what the Rangers would trade for that pick.

 

[Daves a mess]

Leaving for the draft in a few. If things don't go well, preparing my wife for the swan dive onto the Ranger table.

I'll be wearing my lucky Ranger Winter Classic jersey, so hoping for something good to come our way.

 

[NYR Viper]

Colton is way better offensively than Goodrow and could conceivably get a lot of playing time on the first or second line in Colorado (in the spot vacated by Rodrigues).

I'm not arguing who is better, just that they would appear to fill similar roles for a team and while Colton may be better, is he a 2nd round pick better?

This is what I mean:

Say I am the San Jose Sharks. I rebuilding. It's doubtful I am going to get a good veteran to sign here for various reasons. I could trade a 2nd rounder for a guy like Colton, or I could trade a 6th rounder (and possibly shed a contract I don't want) for Goodrow. I think I would choose the latter.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Yinz have the 14th overall pick, BTW

I call bullshit on this. Unless the Rangers are trading Lindgren or Othmann, I don't see it.

 

[NYR Viper]

Stars get Dadonov for $2.25M.... we have Goodrow for $3.6M

one of the many reasons why we never win.


Trocheck? only guy I could think of

THAT would be a surprising move to move Trochek after 1 season where he appeared to exceed expectations.

 

[Trxjw]

Yinz have the 14th overall pick, BTW

Screw you, Rossi. Now all my Pens fan friends are texting me and asking if I think we'll move Lafreniere for 14.

 

[NYR Viper]

Maybe a silly question, but would anyone do:

Granlund + 14th for Goodrow + 23rd

The Pens could buyout Goodrow and get the cap credit for the next 2 years (which are the only years that matter to them really).

The Rangers could play Granlund, trade him with retention or buy him out. It's a shorter buyout

Cap Hit Calculations​

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( PIT)
2023-24	$6,000,000	$5,000,000	$0	$1,833,333	$1,833,333	$4,166,667	$833,333
2024-25	$5,000,000	$5,000,000	$0	$1,833,333	$1,833,333	$3,166,667	$1,833,333
2025-26	$0	$0	$0	$1,833,333	$1,833,333	-$1,833,333	$1,833,333
2026-27	$0	$0	$0	$1,833,333	$1,833,333	-$1,833,333	$1,833,333
TOTAL	$11,000,000	$10,000,000	$0	$7,333,333	$7,333,333	$3,666,667	$6,333,332

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I call bullshit on this. Unless the Rangers are trading Lindgren or Othmann, I don't see it.

Or Trocheck...